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OKHR Leads


The podcast for Oklahoma HR Professionals (and anyone else who wants to listen).

Tara Crowley and Rob Trotter interview Oklahoma HR professionals to learn their story and find out hot HR Topics within Oklahoma.
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81. Todd Beesley - Serving those who Serve

OKHR LeadsMay 24, 2023

81. Todd Beesley - Serving those who Serve
May 24, 202301:07:09
80. Steven Smith - The Hiring Tree

80. Steven Smith - The Hiring Tree

Steven Smith, the author of "The Hiring Tree" joins us as we discuss the ins and outs of hiring. He provides great nuggets for the small businesses and hiring managers of large firms, as well as, job-seeking tips for applicants.

Steven brings his energy and 15 years of knowledge to our conversation about HR and we even get to cover some baby Yoda discussions too.

May 15, 202301:08:43
79. Lisa McConnell - Investigate HR
May 08, 202354:27
78. Lacy Bolling - Follow Your Dream
Apr 17, 202346:34
77. OKHR Conference - FunHR

77. OKHR Conference - FunHR

Since the OKHR Conference is right around the corner we thought it would be nice to get the conference chairs on the show to discuss all the exciting things you will get to participate in.

Learn what FunHR will be all about from the experts themselves, Kristi Spaethe, Natalie Parrish, and Kelly Smithee.

About the OKHR Conference

With our great line-up of human resources speakers & sessions, the 2023 OKHR Conference will be an in-person event that you won't want to miss. Join us April 25th-27th, 2023 at the Oklahoma City Convention Center in OKC, OK to learn from the top HR experts and develop the strategies you need to succeed.

Apr 03, 202324:12
76. Rhonda Rush - Creative in HR
Mar 27, 202350:37
75. Mary Jo Swearingen - Emerging HR
Mar 20, 202347:44
74. Marla Mann - Accidental HR

74. Marla Mann - Accidental HR

In this week's episode, we interview Marla Mann. Marla is the HR Coordinator at OMNI Environmental Solutions.  She tells her story of how she found this job after a huge decision to leave her teaching career. What follows is a fun, sweet, and interesting story of how Marla found a new passion in HR. She also shares how her teaching background continues to help her in her current role and the benefits of volunteering.

Mar 14, 202347:09
73. Phyllis Spriggs - Presence and Class
Mar 06, 202352:12
72. Jeremiah Shaw - Purposefully Mischievous
Feb 27, 202352:57
71. The Epic Premiere to an Epic Season of an Epic Podcast

71. The Epic Premiere to an Epic Season of an Epic Podcast

Or another way to say it is.....OKHR Leads is back for season 4. 

After a longer-than-expected hiatus, Tara and Rob are back to talk HR in Oklahoma and beyond. In this shorter-than-usual podcast, we wipe off the dust of our equipment and discuss where we've been, what we've been up to, and our plans for this season.

We are happy you are back and listening to us, enjoy.

Feb 20, 202318:27
70. Lyndi Zavy - Savvy HR

70. Lyndi Zavy - Savvy HR

Rivers & Roads Organizational Development

Volunteer Role (if applicable):

Various non-profit boards and committees over the years

Why are you passionate about HR? *

I feel that HR is the most vital part of an organization's success. The role of HR is to take care of the people that take care of the patients/customers/clients, and so truly there are few roles closer to the mission of any organization.

What are your interests? *

Work/life balance implementations, organizational development, and fusing operations and HR. At Rivers & Roads, I empower organizations to create purposeful work by creating a clear roadmap that allows everyone to understand both the destination and their role in reaching it.

What would make you a good podcast guest? *

I have been in HR and operations for 15 years, giving me good stories and conversation starters. I am easy to talk to and have done other podcasts and productions in the past.

Share a unique fact about you that you would like the Podcast audience to know. (not required):

I can honk like a bicycle horn.

Oct 24, 202242:40
69. Jamie Smith - Quiet Leader
Oct 03, 202249:49
68. Erin Hughes - Fail Forward
Sep 26, 202250:23
67. Raksha Rao - Let's talk Mentorship
Sep 19, 202257:09
66. Mikey Manghum - Financially Speaking
Sep 12, 202249:29
65. Gloria Sinclair Miller - Formula HR
Sep 05, 202201:05:09
64 - Taking a Summer Siesta

64 - Taking a Summer Siesta

It's been a long hot summer so Rob and Tara thought they would take a little break and call it a summer siesta. We'll be back in September with some fresh new content. Use these few weeks to catch up on our 63 episodes. Send us an email at for some speaker suggestions or topics you want to hear. 

Jul 25, 202211:39
63. Adam Childers - Better Get Adam

63. Adam Childers - Better Get Adam

Adam Childers knew from a young age he wanted to be lawyer and then, lucky for us, he fell into HR law early in his legal career. In this episode we learn how Adam decided to become a lawyer and then specifically discovered HR Law. We then hear about his love of debate, his fondness for us HR folks, and get great insight into his nerdiness. 

Then of course, we can't speak with Adam without learning what top legal issues are out there that affect all of us in the HR space. Adam shares his thoughts on what we will be facing in the upcoming months. So listen to episode 63 if you have an HR legal question or problem and remember is someone is causing problems and you need someone to go "get em," then you "Better go Get Adam."

Top Gun Maverick

Crowe and Dunlevy

University of Oklahoma

University of Oxford

Foliart Huff Ottaway and Bottom Law Firm

Conner and Winters


OU Speech and Debate

Lincoln Douglas Debate


Dobbs Case

Independent Contractor

ABC Rule - California


Spiderman "With great power....."

Stranger Things

Peaky Blinders

Lord of the Rings TV Show

Michael Clayton

Better Call Saul

Legally Blonde

The Friendship Onion

Briefly Legal

Jul 18, 202254:05
62. Danny Bogard - Making Pathways to HR

62. Danny Bogard - Making Pathways to HR

Danny Bogard loves connecting people with the understanding of how they impact others through their work and relationships; his mission is to help people and enterprises navigate, progress, and thrive in a world of change with an openness to see, learn and experience new ideas and theories. In this episode we learn just how he does that through his fun and creative ways. Danny gets personal and focused on what he believes are the key elements in running an HR department. 

He is also passionate about helping people, in any season of their career, find an HR job - if that is their desire. He talks at length about the OKHR program call "Pathway" which helps people do just that. Sit back and listen as Danny tell us how he is "Making Pathways to HR."

Sooner HR Society SHRS

Warren Equipment Co. 

University of Arizona

Strata Leadership

Nathan Mellor

Carolyn Shockey

OCHRS - College Relations

OKHR - Pathways


Ft. Lauderdale. FL

Ralph Lauren

Abercrombie & Fitch

Nextel Communications





HRIS – Human Resources Information Systems - A human resources information system (HRIS) is a software solution that maintains, manages, and processes detailed employee information and human resources-related policies and procedures.


Microsoft Excel

Office Space

Career Paths - A career path is a long-term plan that includes specific jobs that lead to a desirable occupation. There are two kinds of career paths—an organizational career path and a personal career path.

Steel Magnolias

Umbrella Academy

Brene Brown


It's the Manager - Gallup

Jul 11, 202252:04
61. HR Summer reading and listening suggestions.

61. HR Summer reading and listening suggestions.

No guest this week. Instead we discuss some of the books, podcast, and television shows that have been recommended to us by all our wonderful guest.

Jun 27, 202224:37
60. Meron Hayden - Learning From An Intern

60. Meron Hayden - Learning From An Intern

Meron Hayden is a student at the University of Arkansas setting her sights on a post college career. Tara talks to her and learns a few lesson on what college students are seeking in careers and their expectations for internships. If you are one who is looking to hire graduates this episode is a must listen. See what the intern can teach you. 

Jun 20, 202219:36
59. Misty Crider - HR Aware

59. Misty Crider - HR Aware

Misty Crider went to Western Technology Center 13 years ago to learn about OSHA and Safety Data Sheet compliance. The workshops/trainings were offered at Western Tech’s Weatherford campus through its business development services division.

An employee of Western Plains Library System for 15 years, Crider became involved with the Western Oklahoma Human Resource Group, a special organization formed by WTC for human resources professionals. She frequently attends monthly training opportunities with human resources experts, networking with peers and keeping up to date on employment laws and human resource management strategies. She has served as secretary and president-elect of that group.

WTC provided much of the training Crider needed to pursue the national certified professional certification from the Society for Human Resource Management, which she recently achieved.

“The SHRM-CP certification is recognized as a national and global achievement in the HR profession,” said Marsha Morris, WTC business development coordinator.

Crider regularly collaborates with WTC business development services and WTC-Weatherford for library branch personnel trainings, using WTC’s computer lab.

Jun 13, 202249:07
58. Simon T. Bailey - Be the Spark
Jun 06, 202243:09
57. Have a great Memorial Day

57. Have a great Memorial Day

We are taking this week off for the holiday and will be back next week. We do spend a moment discussing an exciting upcoming guest. 

May 30, 202203:00
56. Brenda Rogers - Consulting HR
May 23, 202253:02
55. Todd Wade - HR Architect
May 16, 202259:31
54. Nancy Gunter - Generation HR

54. Nancy Gunter - Generation HR

Nancy Gunter has 25 years experience in executive coaching and corporate training. She is certified by Gallup to Coach using the Strengths Assessment and certified with MHS to coach using the EQi-2.0 assessment, centered on Emotional Intelligence.
Nancy also designs and delivers trainings in Generational Studies, Emotional Intelligence, Supervision, Communication, Teambuilding, and more. She is certified in Temperament Fluency, Why People Do What They Do, and is also an Exceptional Leaders Lab Partner offering content in a wide variety of leadership topics for groups of every size and demographic.

As OKHR Leads guest of our 54th episode we learn were she got her start and her interest in closing the cap between generations. If you love to discuss the difference in Baby Boomers vs. Generation Z and all in between you will enjoy this episode. As added bonus Nancy throws in her knowledge of emotion intelligence and the subject that will enhance our thoughts on brain science, Positive Intelligence. 

Gunter Training

Exceptional Leaders Lab


Generation names explained

The Lost Generation — born 1883-1900. ... The Greatest Generation — born 1901-1924. ... The Silent Generation — born 1925-1945. ... Baby Boomer Generation — born 1946-1964. ... Generation X — born 1965-1980. ... Generation Y — born 1981-1996. ... Generation Z — born 1997-2012. ... Generation Alpha — born 2013-2025.


Positive Intelligence and PQ

Emotional Intelligence


Grace & Frankie

Del Taco

May 09, 202201:03:05
53. Joe Mathis - Spreading Purpose

53. Joe Mathis - Spreading Purpose

Joe Mathis is half owner in the event services company, Rumble Drum. Joe wants each of his clients to tell their story and he creates a way for them to share what makes them special in unique experiences. As Experienced Chief Creative Officer, Joe has a demonstrated history of working in the events services industry. He is skilled in creating amazing guest experiences for corporate and nonprofit organizations, event management, volunteer management, public speaking, and sponsorship. He is a strong business development professional, creative designer, author and composer.

Listen as Joe tells his own story that is about finding ways to spread your purpose.

May 02, 202201:08:08
52. Shalynne Jackson - Fierce in HR

52. Shalynne Jackson - Fierce in HR

Shalynne is an innovative, collaborative and strategic diversity and inclusion (D&I) practitioner with management experience. She has experience in D&I integration, program creation, project management, and training and development. As a Senior Manager on Walmart's Global Culture, Diversity and Inclusion team, she was responsible for Associate Resource Group management and consulted with different business segments to drive successful execution of D&I strategy. As D&I staff for ONEOK, a Fortune 500 energy company, She was a member of the team responsible for providing support to our CEO-led D&I Council, Business Resource Groups (BRGs), training programs, policies, community initiatives and other organizational components designed to ensure a fully inclusive workplace. She is a graduate of The University of Oklahoma, with a Masters Degree in Human Relations

Shalynne is fierce about her work with D&I  and HR. Her brave and fierce story is one that will get us thinking and inspire us to overcome our own challenges.

Links to items mentioned in this podcast:

City of Oklahoma City



Asset Protection (job)


People to People Student Ambassador


Return on Inclusion

Platinum Rule - The Platinum Rule is a variation of The Golden Rule that calls for a more thoughtful approach when dealing with others. It asks that you "Do unto others as they would want to be done to them."

Brene Brown – Clear is Kind, Unclear is Unkind

This is Us

All American

Sword & Scale podcast (true crime)

Apr 25, 202201:00:30
51. Art Gloria - Happy in HR
Apr 18, 202257:31
50. Nathan Mellor - The Power of Storytelling
Apr 11, 202201:10:60
49 - It's Conference Time

49 - It's Conference Time

We talk in this episode about the OKHR Conference that is held in Tulsa on 4/4 - 7/22. We are joined by several of the conference chairs who enlighten us on many of the fun details that will occur this very exciting week. Prepare to be gob smacked as we return to an person conference for the first time in two years.

Apr 04, 202219:59
48. Karla Shugart - Trial by FiHr
Mar 28, 202201:01:17
47. Chris Gordon - Serving HR
Mar 21, 202259:22
46. Rebecca Hartwig - The MatchmakHR
Mar 14, 202201:05:56
45. Richard Brown - HR Referee

45. Richard Brown - HR Referee

Every HR professional understands it takes a special kind of person to work in HR. Add to that working in HR for a nation within a nation AND THEN a person also moonlights as a Big 12 Football referee and you have a super special person.

Meet Richard Brown, HR Director of the Potawatomi Nation and Big 12 Football Referee. In this podcast we learn how Richard takes what he has learned as a Big 12 ref and uses it to the benefit of his employees at the Potawatomi Nation. He shares his thoughts of what is important in HR today as well as stories of his own triumphs and successes.

Links to items mentioned in this podcast:


Big 12 Sports



Oklahoma Employment Security Commission 

WARN Notice 

Mike Shaw 

HR in Indian Country 

Central Oklahoma Innovation Workforce Board 


"The Bootleggers Boy" 

Mar 07, 202251:22
44. David Imerbthama - The Great Connector

44. David Imerbthama - The Great Connector

David Imerbthama is about helping people and businesses get better. In his younger years he worked as a self described "executive gopher" for his family's restaurant. Now he takes his great hair (listen to see what we mean)  and uses his talents to help people find solutions.  If he doesn't know the fix he knows the person who knows the fix. 

When he is not connecting HR folks he loves to pass his time as a youth soccer coach where he focuses on strategy and teamwork. Listen to this heartwarming episode to experience a special moment of vulnerability where David shares a personal goal for his family which will challenge how you think about goals and what personally inspires you.

Links to items mentions in this podcast:


Alzheimer's Association

University of Oklahoma




SHRM EAP Buyers Guide



36-Hour Day

Feb 28, 202245:03
43. John Bobb-Semple - The Bridge Builder
Feb 21, 202201:07:44
42. Tim Sullivan - Finding Solutions to Extraordinary Problems
Feb 14, 202201:01:32
41. Wilson Pipestem - Discussing "Killers of the Flower Moon"
Feb 07, 202201:03:57
40. Andy Beck - Leading From The Sky
Jan 31, 202201:07:54
39. Brittany Currier - Arrived in HR
Jan 24, 202258:47
38. Melissa Lockhart - Helping People Through Radical Positivity
Jan 17, 202252:00
37. Dena Culpepper - The Wizard of OKHR

37. Dena Culpepper - The Wizard of OKHR

Happy New Year!! OKHR Leads returns in the season 2 premiere with special guest Dena Culpepper. Dena is owner and founder of Culpepper Management Group where she is responsible to ensuring all things within OKHR runs smoothly. Like the Wizard of OZ behind the curtain making big things happen Dena is quietly behind the scenes making big things in OKHR happen except her impact is real and far reaching. 

Listen and learn a few key leadership points, organizational tricks, and be inspired to get your calendars for 2022 in order. 

Jan 10, 202250:40
36. End of Season One Discussion

36. End of Season One Discussion

That's a wrap, an end, a finale of the first season of the  Podcast that started out as an answer to the question: "I wonder what would happen if we started a podcast to discuss volunteering in the HR space in Oklahoma?" Tara and Rob discuss the genesis of the OKHR Podcast, some highlights, Formula One. and where we might take this for season 2 in 2022.

Happy Holidays to all, enjoy the final days of 2021, and may you have a wonderful 2022. We'll be back on January 10th to talk all things OKHR.

Tara and Rob

Dec 20, 202114:16
35. Shala Andrews - Find Your Grit
Dec 13, 202101:01:44
34. Geri Chuong - Talking HR from Canada
Dec 06, 202157:24
33. Tracey Hixon - The Guru of HR Gurus

33. Tracey Hixon - The Guru of HR Gurus

Tracey Hixon is an HR Guru who leads HR Guru's. As the Director of Corporate HR at Nextep Tracey manages all the HR consultants who are guiding their clients in the complicated world of HR management. We discuss how Tracey stays sharp to be an HR Leader. We also talk about why Tracey got rid of Performance Evaluations and we might even hear a story of a bat that was loose in her building.

Links to items mentioned in this podcast:

Great Places to Work -

Nextep -

Shauna Niequest -

Diana Wall podcast -

Potts Family Foundation -

Leader Feeder podcast -

Entrée Leadership podcast -

Ted Lasso -

Craig Groeschel Leadership podcast -

Adam Grant Podcast -

Nov 29, 202101:05:06
32. Lindsey Nichols - PEO, OKHR, and ABBA
Nov 22, 202101:04:04
31. Kevie Mikus - Let's Talk Compensation
Nov 15, 202101:04:19
30. Phillip Wilson - Unions, Riverboat Casinos, and Chess

30. Phillip Wilson - Unions, Riverboat Casinos, and Chess

Phillip B. Wilson is President and General Counsel of Labor Relations Institute and is a nationally recognized speaker, author and expert on labor relations, leadership and creating positive workplaces. Prior to joining LRI, Phil practiced labor and employment law in Chicago and was Director of HR for a riverboat casino (really). He graduated magna cum laude from Augustana College (IL) and earned his J.D. from the University of Michigan Law School. His book Left of Boom was a top 5 HR book on His most recent book, The Approachability Playbook, has shipped over 5,500 copies.

Augustana College 

University of Michigan 

Labor Relations Institute 

Left of Boom 

Approachability Playbook 


Stuart Smalley – SNL 

Ted Lasso 

Tim Ferris 

Against the Rules – Michael Lewis 

Revisionist History – Malcolm Gladwell 

Conversations with Cowan – Tyler Cowan 

Queen’s Gambit 

Searching for Bobby Fisher 

Nov 08, 202101:03:03
29. Diana Wall - Remembering our friend

29. Diana Wall - Remembering our friend

This podcast was not Diana Wall's idea but it would not be in existence without the influence of Diana. Her impact through our community is far reaching and elevating. We are better practitioners of HR, friends, and family members because of Diana's influence. She will be missed dearly and we will not be the same without her presence but will venture on in her name. 

This is a special replay of episode 12. Diana Wall - SuperstHr. Diana passed away on October 29th. The introduction is a few of Diana's close friends within OKHR sharing special stories.

Tara Crowley

Joy Killingsworth

Heidi Hartman

Lindsey Nichols

Lisa Fleming

Rob Trotter

Mike Shaw

Nov 01, 202101:04:20
28. Matthew Arbo - Mixing the Wu Tang Clan with Ethics

28. Matthew Arbo - Mixing the Wu Tang Clan with Ethics

What does the Wu Tung Clan have to do with Ethics in HR? Well, not much but it makes for a great title and both are mentioned in the 28th episode of "OKHR Leads."

Today's guest is Matthew Arbo who has opened his own consulting company focusing on Business Ethics. Is there a space for such a company, well yes there is and we learn just how much of a need there is in this conversation. Wait until the end to learn about how the Wu Tang Clan fits in. 

Links to items mentioned in this podcast:

Kanon Consulting - (not operational yet)

University of Edinburgh 

Blue Ridge area of Virginia 

ESG policy 

Next Element – Nate Regier -

Wu-Tang: An American Saga 

Oct 25, 202157:33
27. Chelsie Wilson - Mad about Payroll

27. Chelsie Wilson - Mad about Payroll

Episode 27 takes a turn into the world of Payroll where we meet and learn from Chelsie Wilson. As a newly minted CPP (Certified Payroll Professional) we learn a few items all HR professionals should know. We also get to know Chelsie who is one of NextGen people under 30. She was selected for her talent, drive and service all of which shines through in this most exciting episode.

NextGen Under 30 

Certified Payroll Professional 



Strengths Finder 



Jessica Cottom – episode

Brene Brown 

Oct 18, 202153:06
26. Carolyn Shockey - Practical and Consistent

26. Carolyn Shockey - Practical and Consistent

Carolyn Shockey has worked in the Human Resources field since 1977. Healthcare has been most of her experience. She has continued to grow in the field with continuing education to assure her re-certification as PHR and SPHR. Her passion is employee satisfaction and retention.

Specialties: Employee Satisfaction and retention. Training and development especially with leadership development.

Listen and discover the depth of her knowledge and experience. You'll get ideas on how to run your own HR department and maybe make a new friend in the process.

University of Oklahoma

Southern Nazarene University

Norman High School

Fiddler on the Roof

Warren Bennis & Burt Nanus:

Press Ganey:  healthcare experience analytics and insights:


Sooner HR Society (SHRS):


HR Executive:

Crowe & Dunlevy:

McAfee & Taft:

Journal of Organizational Excellence:

Virgin River: 

Crucial Conversations:

Oct 11, 202101:02:37
25. David McLaughlin - "Rock StHR"
Oct 04, 202101:07:55
24. Steve Browne - Giddy about HR

24. Steve Browne - Giddy about HR

Steve Browne is taking a much different approach to HR than many other opportunities he's taken or seen in most companies.  He works with the Executives to truly integrate HR across the company he works for so that they are a true Business Partner that can work with the Team Members to improve their Company. He not only takes this approach at LaRosa's Pizzeria but also shared his idea with the HR industry as a whole. Steve has done this through his presentations, books, blogs and websites he has created.

Steve is a lover of people and that shows through his countless stories and interactions with people. You'll find his passion infectious and won't be able to hide the smile from his giddiness when he talks HR.

Listen to episode 24 to generate some needed inspiration, ideas or just enjoyment as Steve Browne is giddy about HR.

LaRosa's Pizzeria


"HR on Purpose" by Steve Browne

"HR Rising" by Steve Browne 

Phil Wilson – Approachable Leadership 

The Chair  



"The Tipping Point" – Malcolm Gladwell 

Americana Icons – Spotify 


Twitter:  @sbrownehr

Sep 27, 202151:17
23. Krista Scammahorn - Making Magic Happen

23. Krista Scammahorn - Making Magic Happen

Krista Scammahorn is a person who puts her thoughts first. She believes if leaders have the right thoughts proper communication, vision and execution will follow. Krista is currently the workforce Development Consultant at Francis Tuttle Vo-Tech where she connects companies to workers. She is also an author, speaker, trainer and email guru.

Listen as we learn about how her science background eventually led to the great connector and visionary she is today. There will be a test at the end with questions regarding what does "Hippy Dippy" mean and how many emails Tara currently has in her inbox.

Links to items mentioned in this podcast

Six Sigma


South OKC Chamber

Moore Norman Vocational Center

"Not Everything is an Email: Creating a Communication Culture"

Office of Management and Enterprise Services

Dr. Daniel Amen

The Alter Ego Effect by Todd Herman

Beyoncé's Alter Ego - Sasha Fierce

Crucial Conversations

Stuart Smalley

Susan Cain 

Doodle Poll

Getting Things Done

Employ FT

Reentry Program Oklahoma

Heidi Hartman

Linda Clark

Pleading With God





Atomic Habits

Cleaning Up Your Mental Mess Podcast

Sep 20, 202101:00:07
22. Kelly Smithee, HR Ninja

22. Kelly Smithee, HR Ninja

Self-described "HR Ninja" Kelly Smithee is an introvert who takes active interactions with her employees, volunteers with SHRM, and puts herself out there in her Jazzercise business - all in her sassy pants. Learn how she discovered HR by growing up with a father in HR. Find out how she found a passion in helping other get in shape, and discover the power of pivot tables in Excel.

Kelly claims to be the most inappropriate person in the room yet when you get to know her you realize she wants to be the person who helps others and has shown that through her actions.  Listen and develop a smile from her stories. You might not be able to see the sparkly background behind her but you can hear it's there.

Links to items mentioned in the podcast. 

Smith Robert Baldischwiler

University of Oklahoma



AMC Movie Theatres

Facebook of Introvert Kelly Smithee publicly dancing.


Ted Lasso

Evil TV Show


Southern Charm TV

Harry Potter Collection

Sep 13, 202146:08
21. Kyle Killingsworth, Sparking Change in HR

21. Kyle Killingsworth, Sparking Change in HR

Kyle Killingsworth is a business advisor, speaker, and consultant focused on influencing behaviors and driving business results through employees. As a proven strategic human resources consultant with over 25 years of experience in successfully blending human resources strategies with business opportunities allowing a company to leverage their human capital and optimize the organization’s growth and performance. He has led Human Resources and Organization Development professionals in providing support in the areas of strategic planning, employee relations, compensation and benefits administration, internal communications, training, executive coaching, recruiting, and organizational and leadership development. Kyle has broad expertise in mergers and acquisitions, having led due diligence and integration efforts on over 15 acquisitions both domestically and internationally.

Kyle has completed post-graduate work at the University of Michigan in Strategic Human Resources Planning and is a certified Senior Human Resources Professional by the Society of Human Resources Management. He is a certified instructor in numerous professional development courses including Crucial Conversations, Crucial Accountability, Harassment Training, and Business as Unusual (Change Management). Additionally, Kyle is certified with SHL in the suite of Talent Measurement Assessment and as a facilitator for over 60 leadership/management and workforce development courses with Development Dimensions International.

SHRM Certification 

HRCI Certification  Kyle Killingsworth – Catalyst Consulting Group -

Kyle Killingswork 

Bruce Waller –

Greg McKeown – Essentialism:  The Disciplined Pursuit of Less 

Blue Bloods 

OKHR – Joy & Kyle Killingsworth Volunteer Leader of the Year 

Sep 06, 202154:07
20. Greg Hawks - Be Unique
Aug 30, 202101:09:57
19. Linda Clark - The People Whisperer

19. Linda Clark - The People Whisperer

Linda Clark is passionate about helping people grow, learn, and make a difference in their field. With over 20 years of varied operational and HR experience Linda uses her talents to inspire and discover their inner strengths to boldly improve their lives. 

By listening to episode 19 of OKHR Leads you will also be inspired to make the difference you have been shying away from.

Links to items mentioned in this podcast:

DistruptHR Linda Clark

DistruptHR Tulsa


Dare To Lead

Oklahoma Skydiving

Central Oklahoma Workforce Innovation Board

Peppermint Patty



reMarkable 2

The Economics of Higher Purpose


Brene Brown Ted Talk

To reach Linda Clark text "curious" to 66866

Aug 23, 202101:02:40
18. Josh Ploch - Quiet HR Warrior
Aug 16, 202152:07
17. Natalie Parrish - "Excel"ing in HR

17. Natalie Parrish - "Excel"ing in HR

Episode 16 talks with Natalie Parrish. Natalie is the HR Manager at Overland Corporation but before she landed there she had to cut her HR teeth with the City of Ardmore. Natalie has advanced to a manager who personally loves and appreciates the HR process of taking care of her employees. 

Always a learner, Natalie is also heavily involved in her personal development as well as volunteering with her local chapter and OKHR.

Listen to learn how she manages all this and more.

Links to items mentioned in this podcast:

City of Ardmore

Overland Corporation


Resilence Conference

Working Moms:


Kim’s Convenience:

Aug 09, 202149:22
16. Bruce Waller, Energizing HR
Aug 02, 202154:58
15. Barbara Abercrombie - Agent of Change
Jul 26, 202144:09
14. Tara Crowley - The power of YES.
Jul 19, 202154:50
13. Jackie Ramage - HR Advocate

13. Jackie Ramage - HR Advocate

Jackie Ramage is a true HR Advocate, from the implementation of her company's EAP program, promoting it to assist her employees, to her participation in TAHRA's Return on Inclusion Summit and her facilitating the EOS Tracking system, Jackie is a busy woman focused on using her HR platform to improve her employees lives. 

This is not to mention her volunteering efforts outside her day job.

Get to know this off-the- charts' extrovert who loves animals and humans alike and has dedicated her life to making a positive impact with whatever she touches.

Links to items mentioned in this podcast:

Brief Media

Rob Trotter's Instagram

SHRM 30 under 30

Brief Media

Tulsa Area Human Resource Association



TAHRA Return on Inclusion

Greenwood Rising

Magellan Health


Headspace with Kevin Hart


Mare of Easttown

SNL Parody of Mare of Easttown

Contact us at

Jul 12, 202149:31
11 - Bonus Episode - OKHR Leads reflects on their first 10 (+1) episodes

11 - Bonus Episode - OKHR Leads reflects on their first 10 (+1) episodes

No new episode this week. Tara watched fireworks and Rob took a nap. We will be back next week with the lovely Jackie Ramage. As a bonus, we have re-uploaded our bonus episode from two weeks ago as it never made its way to the Apple Podcast.

Listen to this one - it's funny.

Hope everyone had a great fourth and see you next Monday with a brand new episode.


Jul 06, 202138:13
12. Diana Wall - SuperstHr
Jun 28, 202143:57
11 - Bonus Episode - OKHR Leads reflects on their first 10 (+1) episodes

11 - Bonus Episode - OKHR Leads reflects on their first 10 (+1) episodes

"OKHR Leads" has hit a milestone. They just released their 10th episode. To celebrate this accomplishment, the wacky host get together to reflect on their favorite moments from each show and what they have learned. 

It will be hard not to listen to this bonus show and not immediately go back and relisten to some of our past shows. 

No cute music, no awesome guest, just two friends reflecting on some fun times and great lessons learned. 


Jun 24, 202138:13
10. Anna Tsakiris - You're not that big a deal

10. Anna Tsakiris - You're not that big a deal

"OKHR Leads" brings in the 10th episode with past president of OCHRS, Anna Tsakiris. Anna is a self-described animal lover who also loves humans. She has been in HR at CompSource for over 15 years and has experienced great growth and change with her time there. We discuss her challenges, victories, passion for HR, her animals, and her love of organizational tools.

Rob gets mauled by his Yorkie, Tara wears a swan shirt (not seen but so loud you can hear it in the podcast), and Anna talks about being a happy demented cheerleader - not really, well kind of - you have to listen to know what I mean.

Links to items mentioned in this podcast you might find interesting:




True Colors


Microsoft OneNote


Fierce Conversations

The Good Place

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Jun 21, 202140:46
9. Jessica Cottom - Model Millennial

9. Jessica Cottom - Model Millennial

In episode 9, OKHR Leads speaks with the Assistant Director of Business Operations OSU Library at Oklahoma State University, Jessica Cottom. Learn about her early rise through the HR ranks, her drive to help others through development, and her outlook on how HR should treat all with dignity.

In an exciting twist, Tara and Rob expose Jessica to the classic film "9-5" while Jessica and Tara introduce Rob to the book "Girl, Wash Your Face."

You'll love getting to know this proud Millennial, Mom, and developer of others and you'll get off the pod and start asking people "What's your plan?" just like we did.

Links to items mentioned in this podcast you might find interesting:

OSU Library 

Stillwater Area Human Resource Association


Tulsa Community College






"Call the Midwife"

"Dare to Lead"

"Girl Wash Your Face"

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Jun 14, 202147:12
8. Mike Aitken, SHRM National Senior VP of Membership - A No Drama Leader

8. Mike Aitken, SHRM National Senior VP of Membership - A No Drama Leader

OKHR Leads is very excited to speak with SHRM Senior Vice President of Membership Mike Aitken. Mike has been with SHRM for 18 years and brings his wealth of knowledge and experience to this exciting interview. We discuss leadership, advocacy, recruiting, history, and wine tasting among other varied topics.

Mike is a "no drama" leader who stresses supporting people and placing them in stretch assignments to get the most out of folks. You will walk away from this podcast with ideas and a mood to take your department to the next level.

Links to items mentioned in this podcast you might find interesting:

The Society for Human Resource Management (SHRM)

University of San Diego

College and University Professional Association for Human Resources

SHRM Advocacy

The National Labor Relations Act

Central Oklahoma Workforce Innovation Board

SHRM Self-Assessment

The Crown

The Last Lion

The Razors Edge

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Jun 07, 202159:49
7. Lisa Fleming - Full of Verve

7. Lisa Fleming - Full of Verve

Lisa Fleming is the current Vice President of Human Resources at Collison Works. The self-described "Millennial in a Baby Boomer's body" discusses her love of compensation, diversity, and stories of wearing tight pants in the '80s.

Lisa is a stop and smell the roses HR professional you will find inspiring, interesting, and just plain funny.

Links to items mentions in this podcast you might find interesting:

Oklahoma City HR Society

Federal Reserve - Oklahoma City Branch

Chesapeake Energy


Navex Global



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May 31, 202101:02:17
6. Chase Massie - Your Problems Can't Eat You

6. Chase Massie - Your Problems Can't Eat You

Tara and Rob speak with the HR Manager of Henniges Automotive, Chase Massie. Chase tells us the story of how he found HR after learning that his dream of working PR for the Texas Rangers would not come true. How he fought for his first Director of HR role at the young age of 25 and how he was recruited to his current role for the global automotive company where he makes employees cry by giving them a onesie (this is true, you have to listen to learn why). 

Chase speaks to his passion for HR, Volunteering for SHRM, and how our problems can't eat us. 

Links to items that might interest you mentioned in this episode:

Chase Massie LinkedIn

Cameron University"

Simple Texting


"For All Mankind"

"On My Block"

"The 360 Degree Leader" by John Maxwell

"Successful Failure" by Devery Youngblood

Steve Gilliland

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May 24, 202150:38
5. Joy Michelle Killingsworth - An HR Leader Among HR Leaders

5. Joy Michelle Killingsworth - An HR Leader Among HR Leaders

Joy Michelle Killingsworth is an “HR leader among HR Leaders.” Joy has served on several SHRM chapter and state boards for the past 14 years. She has been a conference chair three times. Joy has been such an integral volunteer leader within OKHR that she even has a volunteer leader award named after her.

Listen, learn, and be inspired by Joy’s passion for serving, her continued journey for learning, and her love of meeting people.

Links to items mentioned in this podcast that might interest you:

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May 17, 202150:38
4. Krystal Brue - Connecting HR with Higher Education

4. Krystal Brue - Connecting HR with Higher Education

In episode 4 of OKHR Leads, Tara and Rob get to know Krystal Brue. Krystal is currently the Department of Business Chair at Cameron University where she helps equip students for their chosen career while advocating to raise the level of HR.  We learn from her experience as a board member of OKHR and an officer of her local SHRM chapter SWOKHR. Krystal has a passion for HR, Academia, books, and high adrenaline vacations. We hope you enjoy getting to know Krystal as much as we did. 

Links to items mentioned in this podcast that might interest you:

"Never Stop Learning" by Bradley R. Straats

"The Artist Way" by Julia Cameron

"Green Lights" by Matthew McConaughey

"Smartless" Podcast

"The Last Dance" on Netflix

"Talking to Strangers" by Malcolm Gladwell

"Just Mercy" by Bryan Stevenson

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May 10, 202101:06:26
3. Mike Shaw - Reach a Little Higher

3. Mike Shaw - Reach a Little Higher

Mike carved out a little time to spend with Tara and Rob on his 16th wedding anniversary. In episode three we learn Mike's SHRM relationship is longer than his marriage! He also discusses his passion for HR and his beard.

May 03, 202101:01:37
2. Kristi Spaethe - Hustle, Growth and Focus

2. Kristi Spaethe - Hustle, Growth and Focus

In episode two Tara speaks with Kristi Spaethe of the People Perspective. Listen as Kristi get personal with what excites her, her love of Brene Brown, and her half-hearted New Year's resolution.

Apr 26, 202145:17
1. Heidi Hartman - The 7 Rule

1. Heidi Hartman - The 7 Rule

Listen as Tara and Rob talk with Heidi Hartman, the OKHR District Director and President/CEO of HartmanConsulting. We delve into Heidi's previous experience, current HR philosophies, OKHR's pivot through Covid, and more.

Apr 19, 202151:31
 0. Rob Trotter - Keep Moving Forward

0. Rob Trotter - Keep Moving Forward

In the "OKHR Leads" inaugural podcast Tara interviews Rob. Learn his story of how he left a 23-year career in the movie theatre business to find HR as a recruiter. Find out how he took that path to his current role of Learning and Development manager. Discover how he values his friendships and network that he has discovered through OKHR. Oh, and stay to the end for his concerns regarding his tiny hands.

Apr 13, 202142:43