PCOM Podcast

From the best birding app to podcast and tv/film ideas for summer, join Pastor Courtney to hear what she's listening to and watching. Then let her know: what's captivating you these days?

Looking for a book to pick up over the summer? Pastor Courtney covers nonfiction, fiction, memoir, and two children's books, too!

Dan continues his look at different kinds of Christians throughout history and asks you "how do you define yourself as a Christian?"

Pastor Courtney's maternal grandfather died on April 13, 2022. On the one-year anniversary of his passing, the family toasted him across the country. Then, on April 19, her paternal grandfather died.

Courtney reflects on her trip to Michigan for the funeral, on the weight of grief, the presence of Jesus, and how to walk alongside those going through seasons of sorrow.

Plus: Felicity Ellis refuses to pray for "bad guys."

Today, you determine the meaning and metaphor. When trimming a tree, which branches should be pruned? How do we determine when and how to prune them? And what might it all mean on a broader scale? You decide! And let us know what you discover.

Why Pastor Courtney can't get enough of the avian world. Plus: Jesus's words about the birds and how paying attention to nature can influence our spiritual lives for good.

Dan continues his look at the Christian Life throughout history

Pastor Courtney explores the 50 day celebration of Easter with a little help from N.T. Wright and Martin Luther King, Jr.

Holy Week is upon us - it is a gift to walk this path with you, as we seek to follow the One who knows the way.

Pastor Courtney shares some stories of "gotcha" evangelism from her youth, and suggests possible gentler paths of inviting people into a life with Jesus.

On this episode Dan walks through how the early church thought about what it meant to live the "Christian life"

Do we trust and harness the wind, as unpredictable as it may be, or do we drop our sails, kick on the engine and just motor along? 

Let’s go sailing.

Pastor Courtney shares stories of the long walk of Lent, encouragement for the journey, and reminders that it isn't about perfection but grace.

What do the Transfiguration, Jesus welcoming children, and a spunky four-year-old have in common? So glad you asked! Join Pastor Courtney (and Felicity) on an exploration of the mystery of God and what we can learn from becoming like children again.

Dan does a little history and talks about his experience with PCOM's youth this past weekend.

Pastor Courtney gives an invitation to a unique Lenten practice, and we celebrate Valentine's Day with a surprising patron saint.

The shepherds, the magi, even the beasts of burden were welcome at the manger. Might we be too? 

Pastor Courtney celebrates the work of God in the churches around Mission Viejo (and beyond!). Plus: stories from the rural Wisconsin Ministerial Association and love for our Lutheran, Episcopal, Baptist, Reformed, Catholic, and nondenominational brothers and sisters.

What do Stille Nacht, a grumpy teenaged choir, and a man named Arlo have in common? A simple, hopeful story of God weaving a beautiful story across the years.

Dan talks about the past and future of church attendance and what it means for all of us at PCOM

Invitations to a few simple, soulful practices to remind you of God's love in this new year. 

On today's show Dan takes one of the stranger stories in the New Testament and why the church has stopped to remember it every year in January

Everything Sad is Untrue by Daniel Nayeri

Light from Distant Stars by Shawn Smucker

The Dearly Beloved by Cara Wall

The Island of Sea Women by Lisa See

The Talented Ribkins by Ladee Hubbard

Liberation Day by George Saunders

Bewilderment by Richard Powers

Dan talks about fruitcake, the 12 Days of Christmas, and stories of redemption at Christmas

Nonfiction books on life and faith for 2022.

Frederick Buechner - Listening to Your Life

Rich Villodas - Good and Beautiful and Kind

Madeline L'Engle - A Stone for a Pillow

Makoto Fujimura - Culture Care

Jeff brings some more post-apocalyptic literature, a few scripture verses, and an invitation to a new nostalgia. 

Dan tells a story about how our church came to be

Our new Associate Youth Director, Lizzie, sits down with Jeff Given to share a bit of her story including the remarkable circumstances that led her here to PCOM. 

Dan talks about how we think the future effects us in the present

Jeff is somehow a longtime Philadelphia Eagles and Duke Mens Basketball fan, as well as a recent Las Vegas Aces WNBA fan (and not because they just won the title!), yet doesn't see any lack of consistency there... he also has an incredible brother he'd like to share a story about. 

Dan tells a story from the Reformation, talks 10 Commandments, and asks about personal devotional practices

PCOM's new Church Business Manager, Peter Sedlewicz, shares some wit and wisdom along with a few beautiful stories of God's faithfulness.

Dan walks us through a brief history of how we got our modern Bible and the various translations 

From Colombia, to Horticulture classes, to the Philadelphia Eagles, Jeff ponders the ups and downs of “certainty” and what the Gospel might have to say about it.

Dan considers church demographics, the "bigness" of God, and the local church

On this week's episode we get to know PCOM's "Newest" staff member Miranda, our Children's Ministry Director.

Dan dives into a local story near and dear to his own heart and with a connection to PCOM

The heat is upon us! What better time to DO LESS and move VERY LITTLE. Let's sit in stillness, keeping cool, while allowing the Spirit to grow our awareness and acceptance and okay-ness. 

Join us for the PCOM Podcast's Greatest Hits! In this special series, Pastor Courtney leads us through the most popular episodes of past seasons.

Today we revisit our most popular episode of ALL time, from April 6, 2020, just a few weeks into the start of the pandemic. Emergency Room Doctor Ian Ellis came to share how we could care for ourselves and our neighbors and where he saw God at work in these days of stress and uncertainty.

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Join us for the PCOM Podcast's Greatest Hits! In this special series, Pastor Courtney leads us through the most popular episodes of past seasons.

Today we revisit Pastor Jackson's interview from May of 2020. Meeting digitally as we prayed for the pandemic to end soon, he and I met for an interview over Zoom to chat books, hope, and how literature helps us find our way through.

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Join us for the PCOM Podcast's Greatest Hits! In this special series, Pastor Courtney leads us through the most popular episodes of past seasons.

Today we revisit the "best books of all time" episode from January of 2021, with help from many of you!

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It's the PCOM Podcast's Greatest Hits! In this special August series, Pastor Courtney leads us through the most popular episodes of past seasons.

Today we revisit Pastor Daryl's wisdom on joining Jesus at work from June of 2019. (Good news: it's all still true!)

Subscribe to the PCOM Podcast wherever you get your podcasts, and don't forget to tell a friend!

Join us for the PCOM Podcast's Greatest Hits! In this special series, Pastor Courtney leads us through the most popular episodes of past seasons. 

Today we revisit Jeff Given's special on tree trimming from January of 2021.

Subscribe to the PCOM Podcast wherever you get your podcasts, and don't forget to tell a friend!

Hebrews 11 is a who's who of the faithful: Abraham, Moses, Rahab, and more! It brings up the question: in addition to these wise men and women of the faith, who is in your "cloud of witnesses," cheering you on and leading you in wisdom? Pastor Courtney shares stories of pastors, mentors, and family members who have guided her faith through the decades and asks the question: who's in your hall of faith?

On this episode Dan tells the story of a Swiss barbecue that forever changed the church 

From birdwatching to looking out over our city to learning to join Jesus on his mission, this simple, soulful spiritual practice can have a lasting impact.

What might the Psalmists and Simon Peter have to say about to whom and, maybe just as importantly, to whom we might NOT, want to cast our cares…

The biblical basis for Sabbatical and Sabbath rest. Plus: the story behind Pastor Courtney and Daryl's upcoming sabbatical, how you can support them in their time away, their deep thanks to the church for this time and support, and embracing God's gift of rest.

Deuteronomy 31, Leviticus 25, and Psalm 23.

on this episode Dan walks us through the big picture and brief history of singing in the Church, from Psalms to the New Testament to Sunday's at PCOM.

Psalm 42 & 43

Bible translations including the NIV (New International Version), NLT (New Living Translation), NRSV (New Revised Standard Version), and (MSG) The Message. 

Bible tools mentioned included BibleGateway.com, the PCOM Connect App, and the YouVersion app.

Paul reads a few poems from his recent collection Somewhere To Follow. Jeff reads a bit of John Steinbeck. 

Pastors Courtney and Daryl chat about the Lord's supper and baptism, how God meets us with his grace, the role of repentance, and their hopes for the season ahead.

Plus: a story about their time as hospital chaplains and how God makes ordinary things--bread, wine, juice, us!--holy.

After a difficult season of prophet-ing, what's Elijah to do? He's ready to throw in the towel, but God has a surprise in store.

A word of encouragement from 1 Kings 19.

Plus: Pastors Courtney and Daryl are going on sabbatical? What's that about?

Dan takes another dive into Church history and gives some recommendations (like the music of Larry Norman and Pedro the Lion!)

Author of "Invitations to Abundance: how the feasts of the Bible nourish us today," Alicia Akins, describes the profound goodness of God and how learning to eat together can build relationships, deepen friendships, and remind us of God's love.

We're looking at Romans 8 today, and as far as we can tell, the apostle Paul never refereed a basketball game. But he could sense that even that type of event would not fall beyond the reach of God's goodness and grace. 

Social media can be polarizing, partisan, and downright panic-inducing! Should Christians log off, or is there a way to use it without letting it use us?

Pastor Courtney interviews pastor & author Doug Bursch on his book Posting Peace: Why Social Media Divides Us and What We Can Do About It. 

Find Doug at fairlyspiritual.org.

Dan talks about the history of the church calendar, Easter, and worshipping with Christians across space and time.

For a list of our current college students, email cya@mypcom.com

Cards, letters, stickers, and other written encouragement may be dropped off at the church office. 

But we don't talk about Bruno! How might we move forward in truth and love by naming the reality of where we have been? 

Pastor Courtney shares a story of a fasting meltdown. Plus: how our human frailty (even in its most embarrassing moments!) can be a reminder of the deep love of our Savior.

Lessons from Nehemiah 1 on God's nearness to us in our suffering. Plus: how fasting can help connect us to the depths of our emotions and God's heart.

Dan talks about a few of his favorite movies depicting events Church history- including one in particular about a feast

An invitation to Lenten fasting and its Scriptural basis, from the Old Testament to the New with Pastor Courtney.

Wrapping up our journey through surprising spiritual practices, how might Psalm 27 help us pray for ourselves and for others. 

Walking and praying, praying and walking. What prayer labyrinths can teach us about the long and winding journey of faith, suggestions on how to engage in this practice, Scriptures for meditation, and an exciting announcement about Lent at PCOM.

Episode three in our surprising spiritual practices series.

On this episode Dan van Voorhis tells the story of Ignatius of Loyola and Francis Xavier- two unlikely college roommates whose spiritual practices would change the world 

Praying for a bird from the Lord as we ponder how surprising spiritual practices can draw our gazes heavenward and help us love our neighbors right here and now. The Holy Spirit as a wind, a fire, and a dove. Plus: Psalm 102 and an invitation to stillness.

Episode one in our new Surprising Spiritual Practices series.

Elizabeth Prentiss wrote the words to the hymn, "More Love to Thee, O Christ" in 1856. 

They're still ringing true: 

Let sorrow do its work

come grief and pain; 

Sweet are thy messengers

sweet their refrain

When they can sing with me: 

More love, O Christ to Thee!

Jonah is not a fan of the Ninevites. Yet God is a God of compassion. What's a grumpy prophet to do? Lessons on tenderness amidst turmoil from Jonah 4.

Pastor Courtney shares a hockey story of just surviving. Plus, 1 Kings 19 on the beauty of a God who ministers to us in our physical needs.

How are you surviving these days? 

A celebration of surviving - even if we're not always thriving. 

For more on Moses reading his end, and how God met him with compassion, check out Numbers 11:4-35.

It's a New Year! What is something we can delight in this season?

Fiction, nonfiction, poetry, and theology.

What was your favorite read of 2021?

Books mentioned:

The Road by Cormac McCarthy

On Reading Well by Karen Swallow Prior

This Day by Wendell Berry

Abuelita Faith by Kat Armas

Journal of a Novel by John Steinbeck

Art & Faith by Makoto Fujimura

Invitations to Abundance by Alicia Akins

The Nature of Small Birds by Susie Finkbeiner

Thou Shalt Not Be a Jerk by Eugene Cho

There, There by Tommy Orange

The Great Silence in a season of great busyness. 

Dr. Dan van Voorhis joins us again as guest host to chat Christmas carols, why we sing at Christmastime, and other historical Advent-y goodness. 

Habanero peppers and air mattresses - what could go wrong? Just about everything. Can we discover laughter and joy even amidst embarrassment and shame?

Our final episode of our gratitude series! Pastor Courtney shares the story of how YOU helped buy her a house (really!), the gratitude of being on mission in a neighborhood, the joys of Thanksgiving, and a word from Paul in 1 Corinthians.

Pastor Courtney on how holding two big emotions together can help deepen our thanksgiving. 

Why's that turtle on the fencepost? Plus, a reminder that someone else planted the apple tree, and why that knowledge can deepen our gratitude. A warning against grumbling, Psalm 107, and a new sign off.

Want to share your story of gratitude for the podcast? Pastor Courtney would love to hear from you! Call the church and leave her a voicemail, or email her at courtney.ellis@mypcom.com 

What's the difference between biblical gratitude and toxic positivity? What are the people of PCOM thankful for these days? Hear from David Schramm, Dianne Lam, Dwight Woodruff, and Carol Marleau on what they are grateful for today. 

Plus, pastor Courtney on the biblical basis for gratitude and why we're starting Advent ridiculously early this year.

What do the gospel of Matthew and the Pirates of the Caribbean have in common? Well, not much. But maybe one can shine a light of truth and beauty on the other. Maybe. 

Join professor and professional podcaster Dr. Dan van Voorhis in a witty and wonderful journey into the history of our late-October holidays within and outside of the church. Plus: his story of how God called him and his family to PCOM (it involved a hiking trail!). 

You won't want to miss this special episode of the PCOM Podcast.

All Saints part two, with Pastor Courtney, Isaiah 43, and a reminder to be extra kind.

Pastor Courtney shares stories from her heart of three fellow ministers who died unexpectedly this year. Hebrews 12:1-3, the history and church tradition behind All Saints Day, and a reminder that grief is A-Okay, even (especially!) for the people of God.

TW: Suicide.

Continuing in our series on Philippians, what might it mean to "do all things through Christ who strengthens us"? 

Pastor Courtney on Philippians 2, the humility of Jesus, and the Poseidon adventure. Plus: The New City Catechism and why you really should try Asian Box.

Pastor Courtney on Philippians 1 and an invitation to insight, understanding, knowledge, and love from Paul. Plus: Alfred Lansing's Endurance (yes, Pastor Courtney can't get enough) and recommendations on surfing documentaries, macabre novels, and a birding board game.

Philippians, Paul's letters, church in context, and an embarrassing story about Pastor Courtney and dating at a Christian college.

Plus: Why taking verses out of context is (almost) always a disaster, and how to soak in the richness of Scripture.

In Matthew's gospel, Jesus says to those who will hear "You are the salt of the earth." So let's explore salt together to see what all the fuss is about. 

Also, another kitchen catastrophe (Marmalade Hands), and some culinary wisdom picked up along the way. 

SEE JEFF'S FAVORITE KITCHEN TOOLS HERE:  https://imgur.com/a/jkfNsa8

Alyona Koolhaas, PCOM's MOPS and nursery coordinator, shares stories of God at work from her childhood in Kiev to the fall of the Soviet Union to falling in love with an American in Wisconsin. From her love of tiny tots to her deepening relationship with great big God, this is not a story to miss.

Pastor Courtney on how sitting in a different chair can change your life. (Seriously.) Also: words of wisdom from Clayton Simon, gentle invitations to innovation, recommendations, and news about what's coming next.

Jeff shares stories about his cooking failures (see: nearly burning down the house) and a few tips along the way.

How can our food affect and influence our lives of prayer? Can cooking be an act of prayer? How about a beautifully set table? Do we always need to pray before our meals? What are some new prayer practices we might engage around the food that we eat?

Whet your appetite for an episode on food, faith, and our good Creator God!

How the objects we use to gently lead us into prayer can help us connect with the Object of our prayer. Prayer beads for Protestants, pocket stones, and visual reminders that God is with us. This episode is all about easy physical reminders that God is near.

How writing out our prayers (especially when we never have to show them to anyone else, including ourselves) can slow the spin of thoughts, worries, fears and doubts in our head... and can even lead to silliness and giggling. 

Good news! We don't have to sit still to pray! Wisdom from the Jesuits, the Benedictines, and an old friend of Pastor Courtney's on praying in motion, plus an invitation to you to pray on the go this week.

Let's explore the visual arts and continue to expand our imagination around what good and authentic worship of God can look like. 

Hear from Emily Wood, ER doc Ian Ellis, Fuller NT professor Chris Blumhofer, singer/songwriter Natalie Schlabs, author and activist Dorcas Cheng-Tozun, novelist Shawn Smucker, and journalist Aarik Danielsen on a year like none other and how God saw them through.

Take a tour through the past with us as we revisit April and May of 2020 - the uncertainty of almost everything AND the faithfulness of God in this greatest hits episode.

Pastor Courtney shares some stories of whimsy and an invitation to join God in holy play. How do you play best?

Recommendations for kids:

Bluey on Disney +

Big Nate books

Books by Kate DiCamillo

Recommendations for adults:

Ted Lasso on Apple TV

The Cornell Bird ID app

May the Lord bless you and keep you, make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you. 

May the Lord turn his face toward you and give you peace. 

God has not abandoned you. God will not abandon you. Amen. 

Invitations versus commands, angelic arrivals, the answer of presence, and the gift of more information.

What are you afraid of?

Deciduous trees, evergreen trees, and sleeping babies in between. 

Here is a link to the image of our Floss silk tree (Ceiba speciosa): 

https://imgur.com/a/CVAK00A

Jeff shares the name of a new daughter and some wisdom from Henry Nouwen.

Pastor Courtney is bad at waiting. How about you? How the Lenten school for patience can shape, form, and hearten us. Plus: wisdom from Charles Spurgeon, Jim Elliott, Edna Hong, and Psalm 37 on God's presence with us in the ache of longing.

Lent is commonly a time when Christians turn to spiritual practices. Some fast from a particular food or another comfort item, others take on a spiritual discipline like prayer journaling. Why do faith leaders encourage the practice of Lent, and how might we enter into this season in a special way during this odd year?

Plus: a short, simple prayer to start you on your way.

What is Lent and why do we practice it? What role do rhythms, rituals, and rest have for our spiritual growth? Join us as we prepare together for the 40 days of Lent.

Plus: a story from a beloved college professor on Lent's abundant lessons of grace and frailty

(That's just, like, your OPINION, man!)

Pastor Courtney's favorites, your favorites, and best reads of all time.

Jeff talks trees, Easten's namesake and the poetry of Langston Hughes 

Jeff speaks to the coolness of winter, the darkness of night, and the interconnected nature of darkness and light. Also Christmas decorations and a revisit of Psalm 139, featuring Easten Given.

Hear from beloved PCOM members Evie Olson, Clayton Simon, Mary Smith, Arlene Weller, Ralph Parris, and Linda Payne about their gratitude on this Thanksgiving holiday.

We at PCOM are thankful for each one of you, dear friends. Happy Thanksgiving!

It is election day here in the US, but that's not really what we're talking about. Not really. 

Perhaps an old song has something for us. Perhaps we can sing it together. 

As a kid, Jeff stood on tables at fast food restaurants and sang at the top of his lungs. And other examples of what our worship might look like. 

Some history, some chicken squawks, and hopefully some good fruit. 

The prophet Amos and the call to Abraham might still have something to say. 

What month is it again? Pastor Courtney on loving our neighbors, lifting up our performers and encouraging our families. We introduce our first Q&A segment with a wonderful, thoughtful question on Matthew 1, Luke 3, and why Jesus' family lineage was so important (and so radically different in these two Gospels!).

Have a question for the PCOM Podcast? Send it to Pastor Courtney: courtney.ellis@mypcom.com 

A reading from Matthew 1, Alfred Lansing's great book "Endurance," a new podcast Q and A section (send me your questions!), an invitation to a Bible study, and staying connected across the miles.

Praying for those who are on the other end of the isolation or overwhelm spectrum. Setting ourselves up for Scriptural study success. Pastor Jackson's sermon text (Matthew 1:1-17). And a story about Pastor Courtney's 20-month-old daughter, who has decided she is invincible.

Jesus tells a story about a kid who asks for his inheritance then splits. You may have heard it before. 

Pastor Jackson shares the story behind his love of reading (it involves dishes and Little House on the Prairie!) and how narratives can help us through rocky seasons. Plus, he and Pastor Courtney each share five recommended reads from their favorites lists. And we wrap it all up with Psalm 91 and praying for our pastors and those in leadership in this stretching season.

Psalm 91

Pastor Jackson's list:

Under the Unpredictable Plant by Eugene Peterson

The Power and the Glory by Graham Greene

Crime and Punishment by Fedor Doestoevsky 

The Purpose Driven Church by Rick Warren

Father Elijah by Michael D. O'Brien

Pastor Courtney's list:

Silence by Shusako Endo
Parable of the Sower by Octavia Butler

East of Eden by John Steinbeck

Gilead by Marilynne Robinson

Peace Like a River by Leif Enger

Jeff shares a story about his fears out in the wild while his gracious father, Dean Given reads from Psalm 27. 

Atlanta-based counselor specializing in adolescent mental health Robert Vore on ministering to our high schoolers, college students, and emerging adults.

Robert's tips for helping teenagers and young adults cope with difficulty and disappointment:
1) Validate their emotions. Then, after calm is restored (minutes or hours or days later), challenge the harmful thoughts.
2) Facilitate safe social interactions whenever possible. A Zoom movie night, online social gaming, phone calls with friends, digital hangouts.
3) Lean into the context of your own setting and struggles. Don't just minister to your teen, also check in on how YOU are doing and make sure you aren't coming in hot or anxious to their struggles.

Resources for further reading, from Robert (with notes!):

How some of the most well-loved hymns of the faith were written in remarkably difficult seasons of life. The history behind "It Is Well with My Soul," the echoes of heartache in the Psalms of lament, and praying for our listeners.

Jeff introduces two practical images that may help us enter into our practice of Centering Prayer. 

Is anyone else forgetting what day it is? Tips and tricks for remembering God when things are muddled. Plus, Psalm 22.

Praying with our feet when we run out of words. Plus, Psalm 117.

Exciting upcoming podcast guests (Marlena Graves! David Wright!), Psalm 37, and praying for our friends.

Jeff Given talks Centering Prayer, Pineapple Guava Trees, and Belinda Carlisle!

Why does Scripture invite us to confess our sins not just to Jesus but to one another? Pastor Courtney shares a devotional centered around Psalm 51 and invites us into the spiritual practice of confession this morning.

Jeff Given walks us through the "simplest" of prayer practices - Contemplative Prayer - while Stephanie and Easten Given read Psalm 131.

Can you believe it's our 50th episode (and thus, our 50th day of "Safe at Home" guidelines?). No one saw this season coming, but Pastor Courtney shares her gratitude to be on this journey with each one of you. Plus, Psalm 50, preparing for worship, and praying for our actual neighbors.

College & career specialist and PCOM Deacon Ann Bergen encourages high school seniors (and those who love them!) in this season with wise words of advice and hope. Plus, Isaiah 35 and praying for our high schoolers, their parents, and those who work in college admissions.

A call for donations to South County Outreach (our local food bank), a brief appearance by Boomer (the class parakeet), rejoicing in the day the Lord has made, and the complexity of the Psalms. 

"New life has not been cancelled" 

4-year-old Wilson Ellis shares Psalm 91:1-2 from memory and asks us to pray for the mommies, the daddies, and the doctors on this short but sweet episode of the PCOM Podcast.

Pastor Daryl on the hidden gifts of a unique season, reading novels, practicing Sabbath, and praying for those working in finance. Plus, praying through Psalm 1.

Jeff Given walks us through even MORE lament, post resurrection. 

High school senior Jenny Kroger talks about an upended graduation year. Hear how she's mourning the losses and finding hope, ways to pray for our seniors in high school, how our youth are blessing our older members, and a beautiful reading of Psalm 46.

Upcoming special guests (Mary Smith! Ray Irwin! Courtney Hinshaw! Jenny Kroger! Catherine McNiel!), the blessing of Eastertide, and Psalm 147.

Encouragement from Frederich Buechner, the great joy of Easter, and Psalm 150.

Good Friday noon worship led by Pastor Dee Lilly, with music by Gene Roberson and a reading of Scripture by longtime PCOM Member Terry Jenkins.

Today we let the "third way" response we found in the Welcoming Prayer (neither avoidance or aggression) point us toward Jesus' invitation to love even our enemies. 

Who are these new voices hosting the pod today? It's Jeff and Stephanie Given! Jeff directs our AWAKE worship service (and performed our p