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15 Minutes in Canberra

15 Minutes in Canberra

By Perth USAsia Centre

Have you ever wondered what it’s like to work in foreign policy? Canberra is buzzing with seasoned foreign affairs and strategic policy experts, but for newcomers and mid-tier professionals, the ‘Canberra bubble’ can be tricky to navigate. Join host Hayley Channer on the ground as she speaks with colleagues from government, academia, and the private sector, to bring you their unique policy insights and career advice in a neat 15 minutes.


Based in Canberra, Australia, Hayley Channer is a Senior Policy Fellow at the Perth USAsia Centre.
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How is the Quad progressing?

15 Minutes in CanberraSep 29, 2022

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What's an American in Australia's experience like?

What's an American in Australia's experience like?

With AUSMIN - the Australia-US Ministerial Meeting - happening this week, what does an American in Australia think of the bilateral relationship? Nancy Schneider moved to Australia from California in 2017 and is the Australian Institute of Internatioanl Affairs (AIIA) National Operations Manager.

On this final 15 Mins in Canberra episode, Hayley Channer and Nancy talk about how to modernise the Australia-US Alliance, what the Indo-Pacific region thinks of AUKUS, and the potential for Trump to win the 2024 Presidency.

Dec 08, 202218:36
Can the North Korean threat drive Australia and South Korea closer?

Can the North Korean threat drive Australia and South Korea closer?

Last week North Korea fired its most missiles in a single day into waters near South Korea. In response, South Korea fired missiles over the maritime demarcation line.

Australia and South Korea have been cooperating on security and defence since they fought side-by-side in the Korean War. But how is North Korea affecting their bilateral relationship now?

Join 15 Minutes in Canberra to hear Dr Peter Lee give an update on Australia-South Korea relations, North Korea, and minilaterals like MIKTA.

Nov 10, 202215:27
How do you become an Australian ambassador?

How do you become an Australian ambassador?

Ever wondered about the career path to becoming an ambassador? How do you go from being a university student to Head of Mission at an overseas Australian post?

Perth USAsia Centre Research Director, Dr Kate O'Shaughnessy, shares her experience as High Commissioner to Mauritius and Ambassador to Madagascar from 2020 to 2022, including some of the key concerns for each country.

Oct 26, 202222:16
What's it like to be a military historian and work in the Pacific?

What's it like to be a military historian and work in the Pacific?

Australia's military historians perform a crucial role. This can include drafting Australia's official histories of conflict, conducting fieldwork overseas, and even looking at social and cultural practices in the Australian Defence Force over time.

Dr Tristan Moss was involved in writing Australia's official histories of Afghanistan, Iraq, and Timor Leste, and has 'walked the battlefield' in Papua New Guinea. Listen to this episode to hear Tristan's career experiences.

Oct 25, 202210:32
How is Australia's work on space impacting its regional relationships?
Oct 13, 202215:09
How is the Quad progressing?

How is the Quad progressing?

Hayley Channer is joined by Dr Kristi Govella, Senior Fellow and Deputy Director of the Asia Program at the German Marshall Fund. Together, they unpack the state of the Quad following the meeting of its countries' foreign ministers in New York City earlier this month. Hayley and Kristi consider what the Quad has achieved to-date and ask: should Quad partners focus globally or narrowly on the Indo-Pacific? Is there room for South Korea to join the group? And what could happen to the Quad if Donald Trump wins the US presidential election in 2024?



Sep 29, 202216:27
What do US 'Special Forces' military do?
Sep 15, 202218:54
Should Japan be a member of AUKUS?

Should Japan be a member of AUKUS?

Amid worsening strategic circumstances, leaders including the late Abe Shinzo have led the charge for Japan to increase its national and collective defence abilities. Given Japan's closeness with Australia and the US, it has been suggested that Japan might join the AUKUS arrangement. So, what is stopping Japan from joining AUKUS? Hayley Channer asks Kei Koga, Japan Fellow at the Wilson Centre and Assistant Professor at Nanyang Technological University in Singapore.

Aug 31, 202221:25
Can ASEAN and the global community still accept Myanmar? (Erin Murphy Pt 2)

Can ASEAN and the global community still accept Myanmar? (Erin Murphy Pt 2)

It's been 18 months since the military junta seized power in Myanmar. Aung San Suu Kyi is back under house arrest and facing more corruption charges. Since the coup there have been thousands of arrests and executions, including the executions of four democracy activists at the end of July. So, where does Myanmar go to from here? Hayley Channer speaks with former Myanmar-based CIA officer and current Deputy Director and Senior Fellow with the CSIS Economics Program, Erin Murphy, to find out.

Aug 18, 202217:39
What are IPEF, DFC and PGII? - US economic initiatives explained (Erin Murphy Pt 1)

What are IPEF, DFC and PGII? - US economic initiatives explained (Erin Murphy Pt 1)

The United States recently launched the Indo-Pacific Economic Framework (IPEF) as an answer to its absence from the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP). It also established a new infrastructure and investment framework called the Partnership for Global Infrastructure and Investment (PGII), and opened a new development bank known as the Development Finance Corporation (DFC). How effective have these initiatives been and what's their regional reception been like? To find out, Hayley Channer is joined on the podcast by former DFC official, and current Senior Fellow and Deputy Director of the CSIS Economics Program, Erin Murphy.

Aug 18, 202219:03
What's India thinking and how's it relating to its region?

What's India thinking and how's it relating to its region?

For a brief time only, 15 Minutes in Canberra is going international as host Hayley Channer relocates to the United States to undertake a Fulbright Scholarship at the Hudson Institute in Washington DC.

India-China tensions remain high and, despite holding regular military negotiations to resolve the territorial dispute on their shared border, the two countries appear to be at a stalemate. Although both sides are willing to keep lines of communication open, that seems to be where their similarities stop.

In this episode of 15 Minutes in Washington DC, hear Hayley Channer interview Akriti Vasudeva, Fellow with the South Asia Program at the Stimson Center. Hayley and Akriti discuss India-China relations as well as India-Australia relations, the Quad, and India and China's responses to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Aug 04, 202217:55
US-China relations: where's it all heading?

US-China relations: where's it all heading?

For a brief time only, 15 Minutes in Canberra is going international as host Hayley Channer relocates to the United States to undertake a Fulbright Scholarship at the Hudson Institute in Washington DC.

There have been some big developments in the United States' strategic messaging on China. US President Joe Biden recently visited Tokyo and commented on Taiwan. Secretary of State Antony Blinken made a policy speech on China and Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin met his Chinese counterpart at the Shangri-La Dialogue. In addition, many analysts are anticipating the release of the US National Security Strategy in coming weeks. To help you navigate these developments, Hayley Channer is joined on 15 Minutes in Washington DC by Washington insider, former US defense official and senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, Dr Zack Cooper.

Jun 22, 202220:11
Lessons from Russia's invasion of Ukraine

Lessons from Russia's invasion of Ukraine

Misha Zelinsky is a special correspondent with the Australian Financial Review. From February to April 2022, Zelinsky reported from the ground on the war in Ukraine. In this episode of 15 Minutes in DC, he and host Hayley Channer discuss whether the war could have been avoided and if there is a way to engage with a dictator. They also touch on the relevance of the war in Afghanistan, and what lessons can be learned from the Ukraine-Russia conflict in the Indo-Pacific.

Jun 09, 202219:47
What's it like to be a war correspondent?

What's it like to be a war correspondent?

For a brief time only, 15 Minutes in Canberra is going international as host Hayley Channer relocates to the United States to undertake a Fulbright Scholarship at the Hudson Institute in Washington DC. Kicking off her stint in the US capital, Hayley interviews Australian Financial Review Special Correspondent Misha Zelinsky. In February, Zelinksy was surprised to find himself reporting on Russia's invasion of Ukraine from the Ukrainian capital Kyiv. In this episode, he explains what it's like reporting from a war zone.

Jun 09, 202215:47
Asian power shifts and where Southeast Asia fits in

Asian power shifts and where Southeast Asia fits in

Australia has established a Comprehensive Strategic Partnership with ASEAN and participated in the inaugural ASEAN-Australia summit in 2021. But despite warming relations with Southeast Asia, there remains the unresolved question: how can Australia nurture its relationships with Southeast Asian countries and pursue an approach to China that is different from other countries' in the region? To answer such questions, host Hayley Channer is joined on the podcast by Lowy Institute's Power and Diplomacy Program Research Fellow and Project Director, and former Office of National Intelligence Official, Susannah Patton.

May 11, 202216:25
What's it like to be a diplomat in Bangkok?

What's it like to be a diplomat in Bangkok?

Joining the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade, can open a spectrum of opportunities, from working on trade negotiations, to engaging regional multilateral groups, to being posted overseas to work at an Australian Embassy. This week on 15 Minutes in Canberra, Lowy Institute Research Fellow and former Office of National Intelligence official, Susannah Patton, discusses her career journey, including working as a diplomat in Bangkok at a time of anti-government protests, military coup, terrorist attacks, and the death of Thailand’s King.

Apr 28, 202213:52
What happens when trade relations go bad over political issues?

What happens when trade relations go bad over political issues?

Trade wars in international relations are becoming increasingly common, with recent examples including economic sanctions imposed on Russia over its invasion of Ukraine, and China's trade coercion of Australia. In both cases, trade conflicts are being driven by geopolitical issues rather than straight trade disagreements. With the relationship between trade and security becoming more intertwined, experts with knowledge and skills in these areas are in high demand. 

Joining host Hayley Channer on the podcast this week is Dr Jeffrey Wilson, who has just wrapped up four years as the Perth USAsia Centre's inaugural Research Director. Dr Wilson is connected to Canberra, having completed his PhD at the Australian National University. In this episode, he shares his expertise in the politics of trade agreements, regional economic institutions, and Australia’s economic ties.

Mar 31, 202217:43
A Jeff of two trades: working at the nexus of trade and international relations

A Jeff of two trades: working at the nexus of trade and international relations

Trade wars in international relations are becoming increasingly common, with recent examples including economic sanctions imposed on Russia over its invasion of Ukraine, and China's trade coercion of Australia. In both cases, trade conflicts are being driven by geopolitical issues rather than straight trade disagreements. With the relationship between trade and security becoming more intertwined, experts with knowledge and skills in these areas are in high demand. 

Joining host Hayley Channer on the podcast this week is Dr Jeffrey Wilson, who has just completed four years as the Perth USAsia Centre's inaugural Research Director. Dr Wilson is connected to Canberra, having completed his PhD at the Australian National University. In this episode, he shares insights from his career.

Mar 31, 202213:58
Is there a foreign policy choice at this election?

Is there a foreign policy choice at this election?

Australia’s upcoming federal election has been described by some as  'khaki', with national security and foreign policy featuring more  heavily than usual. Capturing all the developments from Parliament House  is this week's guest, ABC Foreign Affairs Reporter Stephen Dziedzic.

In Part 2 of the episode, Stephen and Hayley discuss the major  differences between the Coalition and Labor parties in their foreign and  security policies.

Mar 17, 202213:58
What's it like to be a journalist at Parliament House?

What's it like to be a journalist at Parliament House?

Australia’s upcoming federal election has been described by some as 'khaki', with national security and foreign policy featuring more heavily than usual. Capturing all the developments from Parliament House is this week's guest, ABC Foreign Affairs Reporter Stephen Dziedzic.

In this episode, Stephen tells podcast host and friend Hayley Channer about his pathway to a career in journalism.

Mar 17, 202213:09
Why do 'friendly' countries want to spy on Australia?

Why do 'friendly' countries want to spy on Australia?

Australia's domestic spy agency ASIO says sometimes Australia's friends want to spy on us. Why is this, and does it have anything to do with AUKUS or the Five Eyes?

Join Hayley Channer, Senior Policy Fellow, and Dr Will Stoltz, Senior Adviser for Public Policy at the National Security College. Will draws on his experience working in Australia's defence and intelligence communities to provide valuable insights.

Mar 02, 202218:53
What's Australia doing in international development?

What's Australia doing in international development?

Australia's surrounded by developing Pacific island countries and has a long history of aid partnerships with our neighbours. However, aid delivery is complex and, with a federal budget looming, the state of Australia's aid will soon come under the microscope.

Join Hayley Channer as she interviews Bridi Rice, Founder and CEO of the Development Intelligence Lab.

Feb 16, 202217:41
Russia's grand strategy and interest in the Indo-Pacific

Russia's grand strategy and interest in the Indo-Pacific

Tensions between Russia and the United States have flared recently, with a build-up of Russian troops on the Ukrainian border and demands on NATO by the Kremlin. 

In the first episode of season 2, Hayley Channer is joined by Russian grand strategy and polar geopolitics expert Dr Elizabeth Buchanan to unpack Russia's intentions in Ukraine, relations with the US, and interests in the Indo-Pacific region.

This episode was first published on 2 February 2022.

Feb 16, 202226:31
Learning to embrace career failures and disappointments

Learning to embrace career failures and disappointments

Ever stuffed up horribly in a job interview? Been knocked back for your dream job? Had bad feedback on a project or a bad working relationship with a supervisor?

In this very special, extended episode of 15 Minutes in Canberra, hear from podcast host, Hayley Channer, plus two previous guests - Raoul Heinrichs and Lisa Sharland, as they talk intimately about personal career failures and professional disappointments.

We can learn so much from our failures, yet, established professionals are seldom asked about when things went wrong and how they bounced back.

This episode will make you feel better about every time you've ever put yourself out there professionally and fallen flat on your face. It will also give you candid insights into the dark arts of government selection criteria, what to expect from bulk recruitment rounds, and the importance of knowing your personal and professional limitations so you can be at your best at work.

This episode was first published on 1 December 2021.

Feb 16, 202243:32
What's Europe's interest in the Indo-Pacific?
Feb 16, 202218:32
What it's like to be an Australian diplomat in New Delhi
Feb 16, 202219:55
Chasing a career focussed on the UN, peacekeeping, and protection of civilians

Chasing a career focussed on the UN, peacekeeping, and protection of civilians

At a time when Australia’s political confidence in multilateralism has been waning and less attention is being paid by Australia to Africa, now is a good time to reflect on the experiences of someone closely engaged in these areas. 

Lisa Sharland works for the Stimson Centre with the Protecting the Civilians in Conflict Program. She has spent time working at the United Nations as the Defence Policy Advisor to the Australian Mission and spent the last seven years in Canberra working for the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) as its Head of International Program.  

On 15 Minutes in Canberra, Lisa explains what it means to work in an area charged with the protection of civilians in conflict, gives her take on whether Africa should be considered part of the Indo-Pacific, and provides tips and tricks for people interested in a career in this field.

This episode was first published on 23 September 2021.

Feb 16, 202222:06
A modern woman's experience in the Australian army

A modern woman's experience in the Australian army

The Australian Army has a major role in enacting the United Nation’s Women, Peace and Security (WPS) agenda. This is important internally within our defence force as well as outwardly in its engagements across the Indo-Pacific.   

Major Lyndsay Freeman is the Senior Instructor for the ADF’s Gender, Peace and Security Training. Speaking on the value that women and meaningful diversity bring to our Army, Lyndsay said: “It’s not just a ‘nice to have’, it’s past that point of discussing it as a “feminist agenda” – it is mission essential. We aren’t going to have Australian national resilience and create security in the Pacific if we don’t apply a gender perspective.” 

Join 15 Minutes in Canberra to hear about Lyndsay’s experiences in the Australian Army, how she discovered the power of authentic leadership, embraces the rollercoaster of motherhood, and supports WPS initiatives.

This episode was first published on 8 September 2021.

Feb 16, 202217:28
Picking up on the strategic dynamics in SouthEast Asia (Part 2)

Picking up on the strategic dynamics in SouthEast Asia (Part 2)

In part two of this deep-dive with American PhD student, Hunter Marston, Hunter highlights the interesting case of Singapore in US-China strategic tensions, as Singapore is both a strategic partner of the U.S. and has a majority ethnic Chinese population. He explains how Singapore is attempting to balance its ties with the U.S. and China as well as the potential for Southeast Asian nations generally to leverage major power competition towards their own interests.

Hunter goes on to explain Vietnam’s place as a frontline state in efforts to resist China’s expansion in the South China Sea or ‘East Sea’. He also reflects on differences between the U.S. and Australia in how they approach Southeast Asian policy. To conclude, Hunter imparts his career advice for aspiring Southeast Asian analysts.

This episode was first published on 27 August 2021.

Feb 16, 202213:41
Picking up on the strategic dynamics in SouthEast Asia (Part 1)

Picking up on the strategic dynamics in SouthEast Asia (Part 1)

In the first two-part deep dive on 15 Minutes in Canberra, Hayley interviews American PhD student, Hunter Marston. Before commencing his PhD, Hunter worked with the Brookings Institution in Washington D.C. and has lived and worked across Southeast Asia, including interning with the U.S. Embassy in Myanmar.

In part one, Hunter discusses the incredible diversity of Southeast Asia, including the different perspectives of some countries towards US-China strategic competition. He also reflects on his experience conducting field research in Myanmar into how social media has been used to stir up religious tensions, such as in the lead up to the 2020 election. The episode concludes with Hunter’s analysis of the impact of recent U.S. sanctions on the Myanmar Junta.

This episode was first published on 27 August 2021.

Feb 16, 202215:45
What's so controversial about some islands in the Indian Ocean?

What's so controversial about some islands in the Indian Ocean?

On 15 Minutes in Canberra, Hayley Channer interviews Sam Bashfield. Sam works for ANU’s National Security College and is a PhD candidate. His research focuses on Indian Ocean security issues, with a focus on the past, present and future of the Chagos Archipelago – which includes the island of Diego Garcia, a key strategic outpost of the UK and US.

Sam has also lived and worked in Yogyakarta, Indonesia, interning with the Jakarta Globe newspaper. Listen to this episode to receive a crash course in the sovereignty dispute embroiling Diego Garcia and other Indian Ocean islands as well as hear Sam’s insights on Indonesian society and Indonesia-Australia relations.  You can also find out more about Sam through his Twitter profile.

This episode was first published on 28 July 2021.

Feb 16, 202217:25
Working as an intern to a US Senator on Capitol Hill

Working as an intern to a US Senator on Capitol Hill

What’s it like to work in the office of a U.S. Senator and potential Presidential candidate? How can we keep U.S. attention on the Indo-Pacific? In what areas can Australia shape U.S. policy towards our region? What has been Trump’s legacy for Australia-U.S. relations?  

Join Hayley Channer as she interviews Dougal Robinson for 15 Minutes in Canberra. Dougal reflects on his time working in a U.S. Congressional Office as a Research Fellow to Republican Senator, Marco Rubio, in the lead up to the 2016 Presidential Election. Dougal also provides analysis of the nature of Australia-U.S. bilateral relations in recent years and reflects on Australia’s foreign policy contribution to the region and to our U.S. ally. Dougal’s experience working as a DFAT Policy Officer and for think tanks, including the United States Studies Centre and Lowy Institute, informs his analysis and produces key insights for US watchers.

This episode was first published on 14 July 2021.

Feb 16, 202217:12
Understanding global catastrophic risk and its implications
Feb 16, 202215:15
How Australia can turn around bad relations with China
Feb 16, 202216:37
Is there a role for industry in supporting Australia's foreign and defence goals?

Is there a role for industry in supporting Australia's foreign and defence goals?

The Indo-Pacific is an attractive market for both Australian and overseas businesses to invest. Companies are becoming more savvy to the strategic importance of the region and are eager to partner with the Australian Government, including to help support the government’s foreign and security policy agendas.     

While industry doesn’t lead Australia’s engagements with the region, it has a significant role to play. Industry is increasingly being used as an international relations tool, including in situations where other diplomatic channels have broken down, and it is also responsible for developing many of the strategic capabilities used by national agencies.     

So, how is industry and the Australian Government working in tandem to achieve their objectives, and how can Australian businesses improve their resilience during times of international uncertainty?       

Alyssa Waters joins 15 Minutes in Canberra to discuss all of these issues and more, drawing on her experience working in state and federal government, the Department of Defence, and now, with government strategy firm, CMax Advisory.

This episode was first published on 18 May 2021.

Feb 16, 202219:16
Why terrorism is still relevant today, particularly in SouthEast Asia

Why terrorism is still relevant today, particularly in SouthEast Asia

In early 2021, the Head of the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation warned that Australia could face a terrorist attack in the next 12 months. While the COVID-19 pandemic has dominated news headlines and public consciousness, terrorist organisations in our region have been adapting their operations to the new political and social realities we face. 

On 
15 Minutes in Canberra, Hayley speaks with Levi West, Director of Terrorism Studies at Charles Sturt University. Levi has lectured extensively to law enforcement, intelligence, and military audiences in Australia and internationally including at the Naval War College in the United States and Jakarta Centre for Law Enforcement Cooperation in Indonesia. 

On the episode, Levi explains how terrorist cells in Southeast Asia are recruiting during COVID; draws links between terrorist organisations and groups such as QAnon, anti-vaxers, and right-wing extremists; and highlights how the Quad can cooperate on counterterrorism.

This episode was first published on 5 May 2021.

Feb 16, 202216:11
What makes a technology 'critical' and why does it matter to our region?

What makes a technology 'critical' and why does it matter to our region?

An issue receiving growing attention in national security and international policy circles is critical technology and how to protect it. But what is critical technology? What makes some technologies critical and others not? And, what are the implications of critical technology for Australia and our region overall? Fortunately, Jennifer Jackett who is writing her PhD on US-China competition over advanced and emerging technologies joins 15 Minutes in Canberra to explain.    

Jennifer is a 2021 Sir Roland Wilson Scholarship recipient and Non-Resident Fellow at the United States Studies Centre. On the podcast, Jennifer draws not only on her current PhD research but also on her practical experience working in government to develop critical technologies policy. Join us to understand how critical technologies are having an impact on relations in the Indo-Pacific and which countries and multilateral forums Australia is working within this area.

This episode was first published on 21 April 2021.

Feb 16, 202219:40
What's wrong in the Japan-ROK relationship and can it be fixed?

What's wrong in the Japan-ROK relationship and can it be fixed?

Lauren Richardson is one of the region’s leading experts on Japan-South Korea relations. Lauren is a Lecturer in the Department of International Relations at the Australian National University where she teaches on the role of non-state actors in shaping diplomatic interactions in Northeast Asia.     

Join Lauren and Hayley Channer to understand more about what’s driving conflict in the Japan-South Korea relationship, potential ways to reduce tensions, and whether there is anything Australia can do to improve the situation. Hayley and Lauren also touch on the Quad security dialogue and the likelihood of South Korea joining in some capacity in future.

This episode was first published on 29 March 2021.

Feb 16, 202214:50
Celebrating young Australian women in international affairs

Celebrating young Australian women in international affairs

Monday, 8 March 2021 was International Women's Day (IWD). As well as highlighting persistent gender inequalities in society, IWD provides an opportunity to celebrate the women who have made a significant contribution in their field. Mercedes Page is one of these women.    As well as her recognition as one of Australia's 100 Women of Influence, and being a finalist in the 2019 Women's Agenda Leadership Awards, Mercedes is the founder and CEO of Young Australians in International Affairs (YAIA). YAIA provides a forum for young Australians interested in contributing to international affairs, foreign policy, and defence and security.    

If you are a young Australian seeking to get involved in international relations, this episode of 15 Minutes in Canberra is for you. On the podcast, Mercedes reveals her motivation in establishing a non-profit, volunteer-run organisation for young Australians, explains how YAIA is celebrating IWD, and reflects on her experience as a woman in the traditionally male-dominated foreign affairs field.

This episode was first published on 11 March 2021.

Feb 16, 202218:39
What's life really like as a political staffer at Parliament House

What's life really like as a political staffer at Parliament House

Ever watched an episode of The West Wing and wondered if Australian political advisors have anything close to that experience up at Parliament House? On 15 Minutes in Canberra, Senior Policy Fellow Hayley Channer interviews Raoul Heinrichs. 

Raoul has been a Senior Advisor to two crossbench Senators, including Jacqui Lambie, and intimately involved in the policy development and negotiating process.   

In addition to sharing his insights from working as a political staffer, Raoul draws on earlier career highlights producing strategic analysis for world-leading think tanks to offer an assessment of Australia's strategic circumstances in the Indo-Pacific.

This episode was first published on 25 February 2021.

Feb 16, 202216:31
How to secure a career in international relations

How to secure a career in international relations

Always dreamed of a career in international affairs but not known exactly how to get there or what to expect when you do? On the inaugural episode of 15 Minutes in Canberra, Senior Policy Fellow Hayley Channer interviews Mr Matthew Di Leo, First Secretary (Economic) at the Australian Embassy in Seoul. Matt hails from Kalamunda and, as well as DFAT, he has worked for Austrade, the Defence Department, and the Victorian Government.   

On the podcast, Matt discusses his pathway to working as a diplomat abroad and offers valuable insights for those aspiring to a role in the field – whether with DFAT or beyond.

This episode was first published on 25 February 2021.

Feb 16, 202217:26