
What Now
By Mary Alice Hatch
Honest, faithful discussions about @churchofjesuschrist culture & beliefs designed to encourage, uplift, and inspire.
Host: Mary Alice Hatch

What NowOct 22, 2021
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104. Gay & Faithful l Hunter Steele shares his journey as a gay member and why he stays.
Join me as I speak with Hunter Steele, a 24 year old BYU student, as he shares advice for parents on how to support their gay children and advice for gay children on how to open up about their orientation. Hunter talks about the emotional toll being gay can create and how to get the help needed to cope with the reality of being gay. Hunter, powerfully testifies how navigating his orientation with God has brought him peace and how he helps support other LGBTQ members in the church community who struggle balancing the culture with their faith.
Sep 19, 202344:15

103. Betrayal Trauma | How to heal from and trust a spouse caught in the cycle of pornography.
Join me as I speak with Rhyll Croshaw as she shares the reality of her journey being married to someone caught in the cycle of pornography for over 32 years. She shares how she found out about the addiction, how she navigated the relapses and the breaking point that finally brought her husband to seek the recovery he needed. Rhyll shares how she got the help she needed to recover from the betrayal, fear, and bitterness she felt and what led her to create a program to facilitate healing for thousands of families whose lives have been affected by the devastating affects of pornography.
Sep 06, 202352:33

102. Parenting Hacks I Therapist Kristen Murray shares how to raise resilient kids in todays world.
Join me as I speak with Kristen Murray, seasoned adolescent LDS Therapist, as she shares advice for parents on how to support kids when they fail, how to guide decision making, how to be more vulnerable, how to connect better with their children to build confidence and trust within the parent/child relationship and the three most important words in any healthy relationship.
Aug 24, 202342:53

101. Managing Marriage I Matt Townsend shares how to manage expectations and communicate effectively
Dr. Matt Townsend, acclaimed marriage and relationship expert, shares valuable advice on how to navigate the adjustments of being newly married; relationships with in-laws, managing arguments, adjusting to a shared space, maintaining your identity while still growing as a couple, what to do after the honeymoon phase is over and so much more! Also great advice for anyone who is married.
Aug 09, 202359:18

100. Opinion vs Doctrine | BYU religion prof Scott Woodward shares 3 tools to identify true doctrine
Join me as I speak with BYU religious professor, Scott Woodward PHD, about prophetic infallibility. Scott shares faithful tools to use to tell the difference between when church leaders are just sharing their opinion and when they are sharing true doctrine.
Jul 25, 202353:36

99. Changing Church Culture I Richard Ostler shares how to apply love and belonging for all members
Join me as I speak with Richard Ostler, author and host of the Listen, Learn & Love podcast, where we discuss cultural church topics in an effort to validate member experience and help each individual see how they are needed in our church culture.
Jul 12, 202342:27

98. Single & Faithful I Lauren Johnson shares how to find fulfillment and purpose as a single adult
Join me as I speak with 27-year-old YSA Relief Society President Lauren Johnson. After serving a mission and graduating from BYU, Lauren moved to Southern California where for the first time she became friends with and engaged with those of different faiths and belief systems. Lauren shares how she has stayed faithful, despite the challenges. Lauren shares how she has overcome the stigma of being an older single adult in the church culture and how to find fulfillment and purpose in life at any stage.
Jun 28, 202333:48

97. Gay & Converted I Dennis Schleicher shares what led to his conversion and why he stays
Join me, as I speak with Dennis Schleicher, author of Is He Nuts? where he shares his journey as a gay man and how he used his near fatal experience as a victim of a hate crime to empower and protect marginalized members of the LGBTQ+ community and embrace his faith. Dennis shares how he decided to be a survivor and not a victim and the pivotal experiences that led to his conversion to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Jun 14, 202343:02

96. Mission Reality I Danny Humphrey shares how to manage the ups and downs of missionary service
Danny Humphrey shares mission advice and lasting life lessons drawn from his infamous Ricciardi letter.
The letter was initially written in 1994 to the son of a friend on a mission and addresses the various aspects and challenges of mission life and how to navigate through fear, rejection companionship friction and other realities of mission life and that the most important convert we will we have is ourselves! So many great insights.
Host: Mary Alice Hatch
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The letter was initially written in 1994 to the son of a friend on a mission and addresses the various aspects and challenges of mission life and how to navigate through fear, rejection companionship friction and other realities of mission life and that the most important convert we will we have is ourselves! So many great insights.
Host: Mary Alice Hatch
What Now podcast linktr.ee/podcastwhatnow
Instagram: @podcastwhatnow
May 30, 202351:57

95. Facing Pornography | A women’s perspective on the reality & how to bury the shame & face it.
Join me as I speak with Madi Davis, a freshman at BYU, as she shares her journey with pornography. It all started at the age of 13 when she was given a smart phone and exposed to all the graphic images and content consistently popping up on social media. Madi shares the moment when she realized she needed help and how she got the courage to abandon the shame, secrecy and isolation to come forward and get the help she needed. Madi shares advice for other young women who are struggling and what leaders and parents need to know to help the increasing percentage of women who struggle with pornography. Madi shares resources for young adults who are struggling and how her partnership with Christ and His atonement has made all the difference with her recovery.
May 18, 202327:11

94. Faith Crisis I Emily Adams shares how she faced her doubts and strengthened her faith
Emily Adams, author of Divine Quietness, shares her journey of doubt and uncertainty when she felt the heavens were closed and she was not receiving the answers she was looking for from God. Emily shares how she changed her outlook from transactional love to vulnerability with God and how she stay tethered to Him even through her faith challenges. Emily shares powerful experiences that witnessed to her that there is a God and how we can navigate doubt and uncertainty in a productive way that keeps us connected to divinity.
May 03, 202346:41

93. Being A Stone Catcher I Charlie Bird shares how love is the catalyst to connection & inclusion
Join me as I speak with Charlie, Bird, former BYU mascot, as he shares how Christlike love is the the catalyst to connection and better understanding. Charlie shares how to interact with friends and loved ones with a different orientation in a productive way that fosters love and inclusion.
Apr 19, 202333:20

92. Dating/Marriage Pressure Post Mission I 3 returned missionaries share how they face the pressure
Join me as I speak with three returned missionaries about how they face the dating and marriage pressure post mission and the importance of seeking personal revelation despite the pressure surrounding this difficult cultural expectation.
Apr 12, 202328:46

91. Liberation vs Savior Theology I Lili Anderson discusses agency and the power we get from Christ
Join me, as I speak with Lili Anderson, LDS marriage and family counselor, where she talks honestly about the reality between Liberation and Savior theology and how parents can help their young and adult children trust God and His influence despite opposition.
Apr 05, 202344:25

90. Lead by God I Cardiac surgeon, Fabio Sagebin, shares how he got unstuck & achieved his potential
Join me as I speak with Fabio Sagebin, who shares how he evolved as a first generation American from Brazil to being a respected cardiac surgeon. Fabio shares how he got past his own insecurities, allowing him to embrace his ultimate potential and the important people in his life who helped guide him on his journey. He shares what we can all do to manifest our ultimate potential and obtain sustainable success.
Mar 22, 202335:45

89. Manifesting Your Potential I Lynnett Rands shares how to create your own opportunity and success
Lynnett Rands, Communications Dean at Brigham Young University Law School, shares her journey of escaping the low expectations imposed on her by her community and cultural family assumptions to achieve the academic and professional success she knew was possible. Lynette shares how she re-entered the workforce as her children grew older and strategies for women who are looking to resume working in a meaningful way.
Mar 14, 202331:20

88. Sexual Abuse I Wendy Johnson, talks about how to break the silence, get help, and move forward.
Join me as I speak with Wendy Johnson, author and founder of Heal, where she shares her personal journey with sexual abuse and the pivotal moment when she faced her fears and broke the silence and the cycle that plagued her life. Wendy shares how to handle resistance from family and break the secrecy that surrounds sexual abuse, allowing the survivor to get the help and treatment they need. Wendy shares trusted resources that provide sexual abuse survivors with new life skills to help them overcome their past, stop the abuse from continuing, and tap into their potential and create hope and healing.
Mar 08, 202332:32

87. Facing Addiction I Former bishop & addict, Evan Hathaway, shares solutions for lasting recovery.
Join me as I speak with former bishop and recovering addict, Evan Hathaway, as he shares how his pursuit of perfection contributed to his addictions. He shares the breaking point where he was forced to face his addictions and climb out of the dark hole of deception and reconnect with Christ, bringing him the lasting joy and healing he was looking for. Evan also shares steps for identifying addiction and how to get sustainable support leading to lasting recovery.
Feb 22, 202347:03

86. Working Mother I How Brigitte Madrian pursued her professional passion despite cultural norms
Brigitte Madrian grew up visiting BYU campus with her father and dreamt of one day becoming a professor herself. Learn how Brigitte used her faith and intellect to navigate her way through some of the most prestigious institutions of learning, while balancing her home and family life. Her academic determination landed her the respected position as the first female dean of the Marriott School of Business at Brigham Young University.
Feb 15, 202326:28

85. Facing Infertility I Adrienne Blacker shares her 14-year journey with infertility and how her faith carried her to an unforeseen miracle.
Join me as I speak with Adrienne Blacker about her 14-year harrowing journey with infertility. She talks about the highs and lows of trying to meet a cultural expectation when her body was unable to conceive, and how she navigated the traumatic setbacks faced during her relentless effort to have children. Adrienne shares what she wished she had known and what she would’ve done differently. She also shares how to react to insensitive comments about having children when your desire to conceive is questioned and how her faith carried her forward to an unforeseen miracle.
Feb 08, 202332:30

84. Better Communication | Matt Townsend shares tips for mutual understanding & diffusing conflict
Join me as I speak with Dr. Matt Townsend, relationship specialist, where he shares productive strategies for creating authentic communication, reducing conflict, and techniques for better understanding, leading to more positive outcomes.
Jan 25, 202358:27

83. Lasting Joy I Pro surfer, Jordy Collins, shares how he embraced his faith and found real joy
Join me as I speak with pro surfer, Jordy Collins, where he shares how chasing his dream as a pro surfer has helped him realize the value of his faith and the lasting joy found in the gospel of Jesus Christ. Jordy also shares insights for young adults on how to stay separate from the world and still fit in and how to receive the ultimate confidence boost!
Jan 11, 202334:24

82. Legacy of Faith I When Annabelle’s father died suddenly their family was given a priceless gift
Join me as I speak with Annabelle Sorensen, daughter of Steve Sorenson, founder of the Follow Him podcast with John Bytheway and Hank Smith. Annabelle shares her father‘s vision for his final gift to his family before his sudden passing a month later. Annabelle shares what she has learned from her father’s life and legacy and how she is implementing that vision into her own life and how her loss has turned her towards God even more.
Dec 28, 202230:40

81. The Law of Love | Steve Young shares the transformative nature of non-transactional love.
Join me as I speak with Steve Young, two-time NFL MVP, Super Bowl MVP and first ballot Hall of Famer, about his journey with living the law of love. Steve shares how he applies non-transactional love in all areas of his life and how to navigate between the law of obedience and the law of love, leading to more productive outcomes. Steve shares four principles to live by to truly live your religion and what he wants his real legacy to be.
Dec 14, 202243:39

80. Harmony | Vocal Point director McKay Crockett shares how music’s a bridge to faith, unity & joy!
Join me as I speak with McKay Crockett, Emmy award-winning music director, music producer, arranger, and performance coach, who is currently the director of Vocal Point at BYU Provo, where he talks about how music is a conduit that gives purpose and unity to individuals both those listening to the music and those singing and creating it. McKay shares insights for how to use music as a bridge to increase faith, unity and joy!
Nov 30, 202233:18

79. Ownership vs Stewardship I Ganel-Lyn Condie shares how stewardship leads to positive outcomes
Join me as I speak with Ganel-Lyn Condie, author and host of the Real Talk podcast about the principles of ownership versus stewardship and how stewartship can lead to more productive and trusted relationships both in and out of our families. Ganel-Lyn shares her experience with loss, financial setbacks and negative outcomes and how she used the stewardship principle to make painful changes and create positive change. Ganel-Lyn also shares how we can be better stewards over our bodies, thoughts and interactions leading to more positive and productive outcomes.
Nov 16, 202245:17

78. The Power of Music I Ryan Eggett shares how music can teach, inspire & spiritually transform us.
Join me as I speak with Ryan Eggett, music manager working with member experiences, resources and training. Ryan has directed the MTC choir for the last 22 years and shares how music can be used as an important tool to teach, inspire and help facilitate personal revelation and conversion. Ryan shares personal experiences of how the transformative nature of music has changed lives. His perspective is inspiring!
Nov 02, 202247:44

77. Removing The Stigma I Author Heidi Bartle shares how to discuss mental illness with loved ones
Join me as I speak with Heidi Bartle, author of When Mommy Feels Sad: A Mother’s Journey Through Depression. Heidi shares how to discuss depression with young, adolescent and adult children in a productive and healthy way. Heidi also shares how to enlist needed help both inside and outside of the home for support during depressive moments. Her perspective is informative and empowering for those who suffer with mental illness or live with someone who does.
Oct 05, 202235:07

76. The Chosen I Renowned artist, Liz Swindle, shares how she uses her art as an interfaith bridge
Join me as I speak with Liz Lemon Swindle, a world-renowned artist who is famous for her classic realism paintings. Her paintings of Jesus Christ have instilled faith and hope to millions. Her latest work is as the artist for the popular TV show, The Chosen. Liz shares how the powerful medium of painting unlocks emotion and creates connection. Liz also shares how her collaboration with The Chosen has built an important interfaith bridge between the Church of Jesus Christ and other world religions.
Sep 21, 202226:12

75. Poverty to Prominence I Astrid Tuminez shares the essential elements for transformation
Join me as I speak with Astrid Tuminez, first female President of Utah Valley University, where she shares her incredible story of being rescued by nuns from the slums of the Philippines at the tender age of five, leading her to a primary education that would eventually launch her into the Ivy Leagues and international corporate success. She talks about how she got past the fear, shame and self-doubt of being a working mother in a church culture that at times has been less supportive of working mothers. She describes how she discovered her own divine worth and how she pushed herself to the very limit of what she could accomplish, with the talents the Lord has given her. She brings this same vision to her new role as UVU President, where she strives to model for her students the ability to be resilient and proud of the path they choose for themselves. It is fitting that the new UVU theme she has selected is, “Come as you are, UVU has a place for you.”
Sep 13, 202248:50

74. Role Reversal I Callie Smith shares her journey of faith and how her husband supports her dream
Join me as I speak with U.S. Open Pickleball Champion, Callie Smith. Callie shares how seeking consistent personal revelation from the Lord has allowed her to navigate her journey through the professional ranks and achieve her dream of becoming a US Open champion! Through Callie’s success, she has been able to become an ambassador for the church, spreading her message of faith in the Lord and his guiding influence in our lives.
Sep 13, 202240:32

73. Opportunity for Everyone I Clark Gilbert shares transformative educational options for anyone
A discussion with Clark Gilbert, Church Commissioner of Education and former President of BYU-Pathway Worldwide, about how online education is being used to educate everyone from mothers who have never finished college to young adults who might not qualify for a four year degree. Pathway is a unique tool being used to educate an increasing international church population in an effort to foster more leadership and empowerment throughout our church culture. BYU-Pathway inspires hope by opening new opportunities in higher education through study and faith.
Sep 01, 202238:18

72. Overcoming Sexual Apprehension I Dr Finlayson-Fife gives tips for a positive sexual experience
Join me as I speak with Dr. Jennifer Finlayson-Fife about what causes sexual dissatisfaction in relationships and how to get out of negative patterns that leave both partners feeling unfulfilled. Dr. Finlayson-Fife also shares how to productively reawaken suppressed sexuality leading to more fulfilling and trusted intimate relationships.
Aug 24, 202243:48

71. Guided By The Spirit I Recognizing daily promptings from the Spirit & the influence of angels
Join me as I speak with Rebecca Holt, life coach and well-being practitioner, where we talk about how to increase our connection with the Spirit and the powerful influence of angels both on the earth and beyond the veil. Rebecca shares tips for how to better recognize the daily opportunities we have to be influenced by the Spirit and bless lives.
Aug 10, 202234:54

70. Navigating Depression | Jane Clayson Johnson shares how to support those who are suffering.
Join me as I speak with Jane Clayson Johnson about depression. Jane is an award winning journalist widely known for her work at CBS News, ABC News, and on the nationally syndicated NPR program, On Point. At the age of 36 she chose to step away from her career to get married and raise her two children. When her children were young, Jane started having dark thoughts; feeling unworthy of her family, wanting to fall asleep and fade away and even about planning her own funeral. It wasn’t until her husband stepped in to get her the help she desperately needed that she was able to get diagnosed with depression and start her journey of healing. Jane’s personal experience with depression prompted her to open up and write a book, Silent Souls Weeping, about her brain illness in an effort to change the stigma, shame, and isolation surrounding the disease and advocate for those whose lives have been altered by mental illness. In the interview, we share important information about depression to empower listeners to advocate for themselves, their friends and loved ones.
Aug 06, 202244:30

69. Dating/Marriage Pressure Post Mission I 3 returned missionaries share their experience
Join me as I speak with 3 returned missionaries about the pressure they faced to marry too young and too fast after their missions. They share the danger of leadership pressure on departing missionaries to get married quickly after returning home and what they think this is driven by and how they have each navigated this expectation within our culture. These young men share their insights and perspective, in an effort to support other returned missionaries facing the same pressure.
Aug 03, 202229:18

68. Healthy Body Image I How to maintain a healthy body image and manage eating disorders
Join me as I speak with nurse and counselor, Becky Berry, about how she learned to embrace her body image in a healthy way after overcoming an eating disorder that plagued her life during her later adolescent years. Becky shares helpful insights surrounding body image and how to avoid the temptation to compare and categorize ourselves in an effort to embrace our body in a healthy and productive way, as well as useful resources for youth and adult treatment.
Jul 26, 202233:06

67. Creating Unity I Judge Thomas Griffith shares how to compromise without contention or division
Join me as I speak with Judge Thomas B Griffith, former federal judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. Tom shares how we can support the Constitution by supporting unity both inside and outside of the church and how our baptism is a critical ordinance where we commit to unity and love as the Savior did. Tom talks about how to achieve compromise and defuse contention and foster unity around race, gender, nationality, sexual orientation and other potentially divisive topics.
Jul 06, 202238:53

66. Understanding Transgender I Emily Russon shares how she reconciled having a transgender brother
Join me as I speak with Emily Russon, who shares how she got past her own insecurity and negative attitude about having a brother who is transgender and the importance of showing unconditional love and what that should look like as a true follower of Christ. Emily shares insights on how to interact and support someone who is transgender and how to have an authentic connection with loved ones who have different orientations.
Jun 29, 202233:05

65. A Gay Mormon’s Perspective I Tom Christofferson shares his journey of faith and how he came back
Join me as I speak with Tom Christofferson, author of, “That We May Be One - A Gay Mormon’s Perspective on Faith & Family". Tom talks honestly about his experience as a gay man and what ultimately brought him back into full activity in the gospel of Jesus Christ, after being in a committed gay relationship for over 12 years. Tom shares how the unconditional love of his family (including his brother, Elder D. Todd Christofferson) and ward community, helped him come back. His story is powerful.
Jun 29, 202250:01

64. Staying Anchored I Autumn McAlpin shares how to stay tethered to Christ when life gets hard
Join me as I speak with Autumn McAlpin about how to anchor ourselves in the gospel of Jesus Christ when we face unique experiences in life that can challenge our faith and cause us to doubt the plan of happiness. Autumn shares how we can show up for each other in productive ways and how being vulnerable can be a strength that allows ourselves and others to find the hope and connection we need in our faith journey.
Jun 15, 202246:01

63. LGBTQ Parenting I Jenie Hunter shares tips on how to support LGBTQ & stay anchored in the gospel
Join me as I speak with Jenie Hunter, certified LDS LGBTQ life coach, about how to support, love and lift our LGBTQ loved ones, while still staying anchored in our faith. Jenie shares how to effectively communicate when a loved one come out and how to support them as they reconcile their orientation with gospel doctrine. Jenie also shares the challenges and blessings that come with being an LGBTQ parent and offers helpful resources for parents who are trying to help their children and themselves find a safe space to land within our Church culture.
May 31, 202231:47

62. Choosing Essentialism I Greg McKeown, teaches how to live by design and not by default
Greg McKeown, author of the New York Times bestseller, Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less, where he identifies what essentialism is and how to live a life by design and not by default. He shares how to lead in our church callings and counsels with intention and simplicity and what we are really here to do and how to do it. It really comes down to following the “first ping.” Listen to the full episode to find out what that means and how it will change your life!
May 18, 202248:23

61. LBGTQ perspective I Ben Schilaty shares how to be an ally and still support church teachings
Join me as I speak with Ben Schilaty, BYU Honor Code administrator, author of A Walk in My Shoes, and podcast co-host for Questions From The Closet where he speaks openly about being gay and how to blend orientation with faith in healthy and productive ways. Ben shares how vulnerable members of the Church can rebuild trust and move past hurtful comments. Ben also shares how to be an ally, while still supporting church teachings.
May 04, 202236:52

60. Managing Trials and Stress I Dr David Morgan shares a productive perspective & coping strategies
Join me as I speak with Dr. David Morgan who shares coping mechanisms for managing stress, disappointment and failure in a productive way. He also shares how to move forward when we feel stuck and how to cope with unwanted outcomes. His insights are empowering and will infuse you with renewed optimism.
Apr 20, 202228:04

59. Considering The Cross I John Hilton clarifies myths about the cross in our Church culture
John Hilton III, Professor of Religious Education at BYU, dispels some of the myths we have in our Church culture about the symbolic nature of the cross. John helps us understand why members might hesitate to display and use the cross as a symbol of our faith as many Christians do. He talks about how the cross can be used as a bridge instead of a barrier when identifying with other Christian believers. John also addresses mixed messaging about the cross from church leaders and the different ways we use the symbolism of the crucifixion in our temple and church worship.
Apr 06, 202234:10

58. Raising Joyful, Responsible & Faithful Kids (Part 2) I Richard & Linda Eyre share how it’s done
Join me for Part 2 with New York Times #1 best-selling authors and parenting and family experts, Richard and Linda Eyre, who share strategies for raising joyful, responsible and faithful kids. They also share time tested approaches for all ages that build confidence and increase resiliency. If you haven’t listened to Part 1 (episode 57) please join in to learn how to manage the hurdles of guilt, frustration and stress that come with being a parent and how to become the parent you WANT to be.
Mar 23, 202249:44

57. Guilt Free Parenting (Part 1)) I Richard Eyre shares how to become the parent you WANT to be
Join me as I speak with New York Times #1 selling author, speaker and parenting expert, Richard Eyre, who shares productive insights on how we can manage the hurdles of guilt, frustration and stress that come with being a parent. Richard also talks about the importance of respect for ourselves and our children, leading to healthy family relationships.
Mar 09, 202248:05

56. Empty Nest Syndrome | Jody Moore shares how to productively manage changing family dynamics
Join me as I speak with seasoned life coach, Jody Moore, where she shares tips for parents on how to navigate the changes that come with being an empty nester. Jody shares strategies for identifying new opportunities that add purpose and meaning as well as tips for how to address the changes in marital relationships when the focus shifts away from the kids to the couple relationship. Jody also shares ideas for how to give your adult children independence, while maintaining a healthy connection.
Feb 23, 202243:00

55. Excommunication I Richie Steadman shares his experience with the process and why he came back
Richie Steadman talks openly about his excommunication in his early 20s. He shares his experience with a church court and how he salvaged his confidence to come back despite the challenges. Richie also shares how he worked through the shame and guilt from being excommunicated and offers powerful perspective and advice for those who struggle with the church culture and their church membership.
Feb 09, 202238:32