Peter & Phil's Courageous Conversations

Peter & Phil sit down and have a courageous conversation with Chief Diversity Officer and Senior Director for Institutional Research, Dr. Lisa Greenhill.  Joining the AAVMC in 1996 her work primarily focuses on the ongoing development and implementation of the DiVersity Matters initiative at the national and local levels and promoting the veterinary medical profession within underrepresented and marginalized communities.  Join us to discuss diversity within the Vet Med community and other social injustice initiatives!  It's a conversation you won't want to miss. 

The United States Supreme Court is set to decide the future of race-conscious admissions in higher education – and potentially alter or end affirmative action for students everywhere. Peter asks Phil his thoughts on the Supreme Court hearings around affirmative action and race-conscious admissions, and it leads into another thought-provoking courageous conversation between the two!  Tune in this week!

This week Peter & Phil continue their conversation with special guests from Nationwide, Dr. Emily Tincher & Dr. Jules Benson.   Join us in our Part 2 series, as we dive more in-depth into pet quality of life issues, available protection options for pet owners, and ways to change up the current veterinary business model so that it serves more people and veterinarians.  It's another great courageous conversation you'll want to tune into!

Peter & Phil welcome special guests Dr. Emily Tincher & Dr. Jules Benson from Nationwide.  In this episode, they address numerous topics affecting patrons of the vet med community, including access to pet healthcare, quality of care, and possible solutions to help evolve the healthcare profession in the future.  Follow us here for part 2 of the conversation (coming next week) where they discuss the standard of pet care and the current Vet Med business model in more depth!

Peter and Phil discuss the decline in movie-going, due to the uptick of streaming services.  When the conversation turns into recent documentaries, Phil shares one he saw on Indian children being separated from their families and abused in schools meant to 'beat the savage' out of them during the 1800s.  That leads to another discussion on America's dark past.  We learn about Stalin, Castro, & Hitler - why aren't we taught more about our own atrocities?  Peter and Phil dive right into another truly courageous conversation.  Join us!

Peter and Phil pick up last week's discussion on resiliency.  Join us this week as Phil discusses some of the challenges he faced when determining which Vet Med program to attend and how mental health is an important issue to undertake when helping people remain resilient in the face of adversity.  

A proud Peter shares his daughter's upcoming graduation from Vet Med School which leads into a conversation on resilience.  What trials and tribulations are the upcoming classes having to deal with?  Is the term resiliency overused or just misused?  Peter and Phil discuss this and more in this week's episode.  

Peter and Phil continue last week's conversation by discussing the book "Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents" by Isabel Wilkerson, the holocaust in Germany, and America's past dealings with Slavery.  When does America take responsibility for its actions, and are we subconsciously participating in a modern-day caste system?  Discuss this and more on this week's episode.  

Peter and Phil dive into the resurgence of interest in the Holocaust after the release of the documentary, The US and the Holocaust, a Ken Burns film.  In this three-part series, the story of how the American people dealt with one of the greatest humanitarian crises of the twentieth century, during the same time as Jim Crow laws in America is told through fresh eyes.  Peter also takes this moment to offer some insight into his own upbringing in the Jewish community.  It is truly an insightful, courageous conversation.  Join us!

Peter and Phil continue last week's conversation on not discussing politics and extend it into questioning the agenda we get from our government officials and news stations.  A large group of people gets their news from social media sites and opinion channels.  How do we know when we are being sold something, and where do we find the hard facts?  This week join the discussion on how we can all fact-check our sources versus taking what we see on social media and opinion pieces as news. 

After their keynote address at the Fetch 360dvm Conference in San Diego, California, Peter & Phil dive into some of the same issues they addressed with the audience. In the first episode of the new season,  Peter & Phil address the 'woke' movement, cancel culture, and respond to being told to keep politics out of discussions.  From a sermon Phil hears referring to 'Make America Great Again', to a conversation on athletes keeping politics out of their games,  gems  are dropped in this premiere episode!  Don't miss it.  

Join us for an all-new season of Peter & Phil's Courageous Conversations.  Season 3 begins next Thursday, make sure to mark your calendars and join us!

After over 25 episodes, Peter and Phil are taking a break in preparation for season 3.  Make sure to follow our Twitter @PeterandPhil and tell us what topics you'd like us to cover in the new season.  See you then!

Peter & Phil finish the season by discussing the A&E documentary, Right to Offend' and all the comedian greats the film covers.  Join us for another great conversation regarding Bill Cosby, Flip Wilson, Ed Sullivan, The Smothers Brothers, Robin Williams, Richard Pryor, and many more!  

Peter & Phil get into a political conversation regarding current events and address some of the discussions they've had with others regarding recent politics; including the Trump FBI raid and aid to Ukraine.  Join us for a more politically courageous conversation and make sure to tweet us some of your thoughts at our account @PeterandPhilCC.  

The conversation around Uncle Tom, the documentary, leads to a new one around banning Uncle Tom, the book, among other, now restricted books.  When the powers that be can't change the narrative, is the next step to just ban it entirely? What does that accomplish?  Peter & Phil have another courageous conversation to answer these questions and more and invite you along for the ride! Join us.  

If you could come back in 1000 years to see how the world has progressed, would you? Peter asks Phil this hypothetical question regarding the future, and they both have two entirely different answers for different reasons.  Listen in this week, and make sure to answer the question yourself.  We want to hear your thoughts as well! 

Peter & Phil get into a discussion about the 2020 documentary, Uncle Tom: An Oral History of the American Black Conservative produced by Larry Elder.  They also discuss how the term, Uncle Tom, originated.  Join Peter & Phil for another courageous conversation! *some sensitive words are used in this recording. 

The Senate on August 3, 2022, voted to approve a treaty that would expand NATO to include Finland and Sweden.  Peter and Phil get into a discussion on the recent call to vote and a vision of leadership on a global scale.  How do we create a solution to an upcoming global recession while still keeping the country's best interest in mind?  Through leadership.  Peter & Phil discuss this and more in this week's Courageous Conversation.  Join us!

Peter & Phil discuss herd mentalities and how it relates and contrasts to the political landscape.  Join us for another Courageous Conversation and don't forget to answer this week's poll! 

Phil discusses a recent revelation he has while speaking on an all-Black Dean's panel - more black students are coming from other universities outside of HBCUs than ever before, and it is a proud moment.  That realization leads to a conversation between Peter and Phil on the need for inclusion and inclusive organizations both inside and outside of the industry.  Join us for another courageous conversation!

Peter & Phil finish last week's conversation on the freedom of choice, and what happens when some of our choices are taken from us and given to the state.  This week's topics include guns and abortion - the issues most are afraid to touch, though not Peter & Phil!   Join us for another courageous conversation!

In this episode, Peter expresses fear that a modern-day civil war is in the works.   Join us as Peter and Phil take on the unsettledness after the Roe V Wade reversal, and express their thoughts on the issue.  It's truly a courageous conversation you won't want to miss!

Phil and Peter wrap up their Dad & Daughter Series in honor of Father's Day.  In this episode, they allow their daughters to ask questions and take over the podcast.  Join us for a fun interview that brings GEN X & Z into the conversation. 

In a continuation from last week, Phil starts the discussion by asking how diverse their kids' friend circles are.  Join us as we continue the courageous conversation with daughters Brooke Weinstein, and Nicole Nelson. 

In honor of Father's Day, Peter & Phil get together with their daughters, Brooke Weinstein and Nicole Nelson, to discuss some of their past podcasts, asking them to share their experiences and feelings on racism, inequality,  and social injustice.  Nerves run high in this 3-part series, inviting generations Z & X into another courageous conversation - this time - at their own dinner table!  You won't want to miss it. 

After the school shooting in Uvalde, Texas, Peter & Phil take on the issue of mass shootings with semi-automatics.  What's the solution?  Why is Congress so scared to address the issue with laws or to even speak on the matter?  Join us for another courageous conversation! 

After watching a new documentary on slavery, Peter shares concern for the omission of African-American history in our history books.  They say those who forget their history are doomed to repeat it -   what if you were never taught it?  What happens then?  Peter and Phil discuss this topic and more in another courageous conversation.  

After Peter brings up the Roe v Wade issue currently making its way through the Supreme Court, Peter & Phil go into a discussion about the ethics of our choices, and all the layers one has to consider when making hard decisions.  Pet owners have the difficult decision to put their pets to sleep, but just because a decision is potentially difficult, does that mean people should not be given the choice?  Join us, as the two discuss matters of life and death - and the choices we all should have in the matter (or not).  

In this up-close and personal courageous conversation, Peter & Phil discuss the nuclear family.  When Peter shares a painful family secret with Phil it opens up an entirely new conversation on the unintended therapeutic consequence of sharing.  It also reveals a new topic about vulnerability and the true meaning for Peter in terms of 'courageous conversations.'  Join us this week. 

Peter and Phil sit down and talk the Thursday before Mother's Day and pay homage to their mothers.  What's a mother's role and how did Peter & Phils's mothers impact them in their upbringing and where they are now?  Join us this week.  

Peter and Phil have another courageous conversation about the need for debate in our political and justice system.  While Congress and news outlets teeter on the edge of arguments, Peter and Phil point out the need for good sound debates instead.  The discussion eventually leads the two into a debate of their own! Join us this week as we discuss the art of healthy debating, Supreme Court justice nominee Kentaji Brown Jackson, and friendship. 

Phil asks Peter to share how he makes friends and it transforms into a courageous conversation on the foundation of friendship.  Why do we need friends?  What are we looking for in our friendships?  Do political, monetary, and/or social class come into play when choosing your friends?  Join us this week as we discuss friendships and don't forget to stay involved by answering this week's poll! 

This week, Peter and Phil continue last week's conversation.  Join us as they discuss Dr. Blackwell's father (one of the first black veterinarians in the country), how slow change has been for BIPOC people in the Vet-Med industry, and what needs to be done to fix the system.  You won't want to miss this episode!

Peter and Phil invite colleague Dr. Michael Blackwell onto the discussion.  This week's topic covers the problem with modern-day health care (comparisons and contrasts) as it relates to both humans and dogs alike!  You won't want to miss this episode!

Peter and Phil finish last week's conversation in regards to the war between Russia and Ukraine.  In the hypothetical situation that America was ever attacked again, would the nation be able to put aside its differences and stand to fight together? Join us this week as we continue the courageous conversation. For more info, visit peterandphil.com. 

The war in Ukraine brings Peter to beg the question, how many people in America would be willing to fight for their land, their homes, their country?  Have an opinion? Answer the poll!  And then Join Peter and Phil this week as they discuss this question and more! 

This week Phil & Peter continue last week's conversation with the war in Ukraine and compliment the millennial and younger generations on their use of social media to filter out fact from fiction.  Join us for another awesome conversation!

Need a better understanding of what is happening between Russia and Ukraine? This week Peter and Phil get political and address democracy in America as well as the current war happening in Ukraine.  This courageous conversation covers Putin, Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, and even President Biden and our American forces.  Join us for another awesome discussion!

In this episode, Phil expands the conversation with Peter and discusses his hesitancy in using the N - word even in speeches, as well as recalls a time when he remembers hearing it on the news in Jackson, Mississippi.  Peter asks Phil to explain what an "Uncle Tom" is, and the conversation leads to a chat regarding the power of history and words.  Don't miss this courageous conversation!

Phil shares he was told he could not marry Miss America as a child because she was white which leads Peter & Phil into a deeper conversation on microaggression.  Join us for this week's courageous conversation as Peter and Phil delve into the Miss America pageant (while giving props to former Miss America and veterinarian, Dr. Debbie Turner), microaggression, and Phil's secret social experiment he conducts on inclusivity.  Follow PeterandPhilCC on Twitter and Facebook for notice of each new episode!

When Peter brings up Whoopi Goldberg's suspension from The View for misspeaking on race and the Holocaust,  the two get into a dynamic discussion on the concept of race.  Join Peter & Phil this week as they lead the courageous conversation on man's inhumanity to man, cancel culture, and the subgroups we as humans categorize ourselves into.  You won't want to miss this episode as Peter and Phil do not hold back!  Follow our Twitter PeterandPhilCC and stay updated on our website at www.peterandphil.com. 

This week, Peter & Phil continue their conversation with special guest Julie Hudash.   Julie shares an amazing story about how one child's perception on police was changed through ongoing interaction with Team Kids and she also shares more details about her amazing work with her non-profit organization.  Visit our website PeterandPhil.com to catch up and stay posted about upcoming episodes!

Phil and Peter kick off season 2 with a new sponsor and an incredible new guest! Julie Hudash, Founder/CEO of Team Kids, a nonprofit delivering youth development school programs in CA, AZ, VA and NY joins today's podcast and offers her insight on race relations and today's youth. Join us for an incredibly insightful podcast & don't forget to share!  Find more courageous conversations at peterandphil.com. 

New episodes. New commentary.  New sponsors. New Guests and insight!  All coming to you February 10th.  Join us then!

Peter and Phil discuss a place where many a courageous conversation has taken place among men - the barbershop!  Join us for a fun chat this week about the barbershop's role as a source of news, laughter, and serious discussion. 

Peter brings up the book, "Eat That Frog" by Brian Tracy which leads Phil to share a story regarding his oldest son with a similar phrase but entirely different meaning.  The discussion then delves into the importance of fighting for a child's education and Phil shares how he went as far as becoming PTA president to fight for his. Join us as Peter and Phil compare lives in another honest and thought-provoking courageous conversation!  

During the holiday, Peter gets caught in traffic on his way to see the musical rendition of Hamilton.  After sharing their thoughts on the musical, the two then take a blast into their past and upbringings!  Join Peter & Phil as they discuss the Broadway hit, their parent's parental styles, and their new outlook on gender roles since the days of Alexander Hamilton.  Don't forget to visit the website www.peterandphil.com & have a courageous conversation of your own!

Peter & Phil discuss different perspectives this week and how it relates to their students, trials, and football games!  Nothing is off-limits!  Jin us, and don't forget to have a courageous conversation of your own!

This week Peter and Phil discuss the 3/5th Compromise and more!  Do you know what the compromise stated and who it represented?  Please complete our survey below and join us for another courageous conversation.    

On Nov. 19 Kyle Rittenhouse was acquitted of all charges in the shootings that transpired in Kenosha.  Peter & Phil briefly discuss the hypothetical, "If Kyle Rittenhouse Were Black," as well as venture into other social justice issues & trials like the Abry Ahmad case. Join us this week as we gently scratch the surface of several events that have happened over the past month!

Shannon, Peter, & Phil discuss how taking complicated issues and trying to categorize them into short phrases (like 'Black Lives Matter' and 'Heritage versus Hate'), oversimplifies deeper problems.  Join us in the last of this three-part series with conservative attorney and friend, Shannon Jenkins. 

Attorney Shannon Jenkins enters the conversation with Peter & Phil to answer the question, "Can you legislate hearts?"  Coming from an attorney, the response may not be what you expect!  Join us for another great conversation, and tune in next week when we finish the conversation. 

Peter & Phil welcome special guest and lawyer, Shannon Jenkins to the podcast to discuss protective classes.  Not only does Shannon offer a different perspective, but she also gives her insight on social issues from a more conservative point of view.  Join us for the first half of the interview from the unique perspective of a lawyer, with some feminine energy to boot!  

Collective effervescence, a sociological concept coined by Émile Durkheim, is a community or society that comes together to communicate the same thought and participate in the same action.  This week, Peter & Phil continue last week's conversation and ask if music helps us come together collectively?  Join us as we dig deeper into this topic!

Peter enlightens Phil that they'll start playing the 'black national anthem' at ball games now, which leads Peter to confide he's never heard 'Lift Every Voice & Sing.'  Join us or another Courageous Conversation this week & check out www.peterandphil.com to join the conversation as well! 

Changing things up this week - Peter & Phil get interviewed by Dr. Courtney Campbell and discuss why they started the Courageous Conversations podcast, and what motivates them to keep going.  Almost a year in, and they're still going strong thanks to supporters like you.  Thank you so much for joining us and continuing to listen in!  Tune in Nov. 4th as conservative attorney Shannon M. Jenkins joins the Courageous Conversation! You won't want to miss it. Interested in being on the show?   Peter & Phil are switching up the format and bringing in guests.  If interested, please reach out to us on the website at peterandphil.com, and if a fit, a representative will reach out to you to schedule a date and time to appear on the show. 

Some leaders have been taking complex issues and offering simple solutions that barely address the problem. Why has there been such a  'dumbing down' on complex issues like voting fraud &  America's labor shortage - when the answers aren't just black or white?   Are our politicians and leaders to blame?  Peter and Phil offer some insight with this week's discussion.  Join us!

Peter & Phil continue last week's conversation in remembrance of 9/11.  Phil shares a time when he and his wife had an expensive dinner at one of the twin towers in New York, while Peter goes on to share a unique experience he had regarding currency exchange rate on a trip with his wife.  Join us for a fun, light-hearted conversation this week!

On the 20th anniversary,  Peter & Phil both recall where they were the moment the first plane hit the Twin Towers in NYC twenty years ago on 9/11.  

Picking up from last week's conversation, Peter asks Phil about leadership.  Phil shares he's overstayed his welcome as a dean which leads the two to reflect on what it takes to keep a college up-to-date, fresh, and continuously implementing new ideas.  What exactly makes a good leader/dean? Peter & Phil offer some insight! Join us, for another courageous conversation!

Phil asks Peter to describe what he thinks an 'angry black man' looks like and the two then delve into a conversation about code-switching, tone policing, and why black male leaders like Malcolm X and Muhammed Ali came across as 'threatening.' Don't understand those concepts?  Join us for another courageous conversation!

After Peter & Phil, both put out statements supporting the Stop Asian Hate movement,  Peter shares he received some negative backlash.  This leads to the question: Why do we generally avoid speaking on key racial issues? Is it fear? Peter & Phil offer their insight in today's episode. Join us & share your comments at PeterandPhil.com!

Peter and Phil continue last week's conversation on Patriotism and also touch on new subjects which include: Fox News' analysis of minorities in the Olympics, deciphering 'entertainment commentary' versus factual news, and educating our electorate to decern the difference.  Join us for this discussion and more!  Share and/or leave a comment on our website, www.peterandphil.com.  

Phil asks Peter to define patriotism and then goes on to share his own views on the matter.  How has the definition changed since the 1700s and is there cause for concern with today's representation?  Do minorities have to work harder to 'prove' they're patriotic? Answers to these questions and more in today's episode! Join us. 

Peter and Phil discuss the importance of molding our youth through camps, programs, and PTA involvement. What are some ways we can all be more actively involved in our schools and bring more programs directly to under-served youth?  This week, join the discussion and tell us what you think by visiting our website, www.peterandphil.com & leaving your thoughts in the comment section.

When Peter sees Phil's 100 Black Men of America shirt (an organization that supports and uplifts African-American males & the local community) it sparks a conversation on the importance of mentoring.  Why is it important for our youth to see themselves in others and be shown different experiences?  How can we all contribute more of our time or resources to help? Join us as Peter & Phil answer these questions and more!

The new movie Purge sparks a conversation between Peter & Phil on gun control and our second amendment rights.  Many won't even broach the subject, but these two dive right in! Why is this such a hot issue, and does it suggest a deeper problem?  Are we so polarized now that we can't even have civil debates on key issues that affect the country? How do we fix this? Answers to those questions and more on this week's episode! Join us. 

Last week,  Democratic legislators in Texas fled the state in search of federal assistance pushing back on anti-voting measures, and now grassroots groups in Texas are planning a Selma-to-Montgomery style march in the state. It's a great start.  However, knowing politics will continue to go on as usual, when and how do we as voters continue to hold our politicians accountable?  In this episode, Peter & Phil talk politics and speak to the accountability of not just our politicians, but that of voters as well.  

Hervis Rogers, of Texas, was arrested on charges that he voted in the 2020 Democratic primary while on parole. He could now face as much as 20 years in prison. This podcast is a discussion of that incident, recurring voter disenfranchisement, and possible solutions to this ongoing issue. Join Peter & Phil for another great discussion. 

This week Peter continues last week's conversation on religion, and Phil shares a story about his childhood experiences of 'being seen and not heard.'  They both point out how it's an uncanny parallel of how many minorities still feel (seen, but not heard) even into their adulthood.  Join us for another awesome courageous conversation!

Is it possible to create one's own truth? Should there be a separation of church and state? This week Peter & Phil continue their courageous conversation by touching on religion, the government, and the truth.  Join us!

 Peter & Phil break down the phrase "All men are created equal".  The phrase is supposed to represent the idea that everyone is free and not to be “deprived of life, liberty, or property" as indicated in our Bill of Rights.  However, how much of that phrase does our country truly honor and is America living up to that pledge?  Join us and share!

This week, Peter & Phil finish last week's conversation.  Peter asks Phil what he would do if he were president to counter today's political propaganda.  His answer: Teach civic's lessons!  Integrating Veterinary Medicine into the discussion, Peter & Phil also ask: Should colleges put mandatory civic's lessons into their curriculum? We'll answer all this and more in this weeks' discussion! Join us & share!

Peter & Phil discuss the undermining of democracy and the disenfranchisement of the black vote through legislation. In current news, Phil & Peter react to (R) Senator Ted Cruz's tweet (shared last week regarding the Russian army), as well as touch on the relevance of the new psycho-political thriller series on Amazon, 'Them.'  Please listen & share. 

Alex Haley's Roots: The Saga of An American Family first aired in 1977.  It was a mini-series that followed Haley's ancestral lineage from the soils of Africa, into the shackles of American slavery.  In this episode, Peter & Phil discuss the series after Peter admits he's never seen it.  Join us, for another great discussion!  

What are some of the 'code words' the system uses to try to keep black people in their communities?  This week, Peter and Phil discuss a few, plus get into depth over the term, 'invading the suburbs' on a whole new level! The time to talk is now, so join us for another Courageous Conversation!

Peter & Phil discuss the resurgence of overt racism during the last few years.  How much has changed since the 'good ol'days' and why are some Americans so determined to get them back?  Is there any hope for true equality in the future?  Tune into this week's episode for the answer!  You won't want to miss it.  

Peter & Phil continue last week's conversation, revealing their emotions after the verdict of Derek Chauvin comes in for the death of George Floyd. Phil admits that just like Eric Gardner's mother, Gwen Carr, he's tired of glimmers of justice.  How exactly do we rectify a broken system? Find out how in this week's part two episode.  Like & Share!

Coverage of the death of George Floyd not only prompted global protests for police reform but was the catalyst for Peter & Phil's Courageous Conversations podcast nearly a year ago. On April 21, 2020, Derek Chauvin, the policeman who pinned George Flloyd down to the ground for nine minutes and twenty-nine seconds, was found guilty of his murder on all three counts.  This week's discussion is not only about that verdict, but the ones that didn't come before. Was justice served?  Please join us for another Courageous Conversation! Like & Share!

Dr. Peter Weinstein and Phillip Nelson welcome Dr. Courtney Campbell to the conversation. This episode, they discuss what they are all currently doing to keep the courageous conversation going, education (past and present), and the role school plays in fighting the injustices and racism prevalent in America today.  Join us for another courageous conversation!  Like & Share!

March 13th, 2020 - Breonna Taylor, a Black medical worker, was shot and killed by Louisville police officers during a botched raid on her apartment.  In November of 2020, Missouri Congresswoman-elect Cori Bush wore a Breonna Taylor mask and was mistakenly called Breona by GOP members several times.  In this episode, Peter and Phil discuss that particular incident as well as last week's topic concerning how news networks like FOX, MSNBC, and others currently affect our politics and personal views. Join us for another courageous conversation.  Like & share!

Dr. Peter Weinstein and Dr. Phillip Nelson discuss the current polarization and commercialization of the news.  Are we getting news or just opinions? Given that some news stations have gotten so far away from the facts,  will they ever be able to regain our trust again?  Let's discuss!  

To practice, or not to practice? To teach or not to teach? What motivates those entering the Vet Med profession? In this episode, Dr. Nelson expresses some regret for not going back to serve his community by opening up a practice but teaching instead.  Join us for the conversation!  

How do we keep our democracy a true democracy? Are your rights really secure? In this episode,  Peter and Phil discuss Robin DiAngelo’s theories (the author of White Fragility), the power struggle of the majority vs. the minority, and the role politics play in that struggle. Join us for another Courageous Conversation (& don't forget to like and share)! 

It's said those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.  Well, what happens when we actively try to erase it?  This episode, Dr. Peter Weinstein and Dr. Phillip Nelson touch on this subject and more!  Join us. 

Although schools were integrated in the 1960s, redlining (the practice of denying a creditworthy applicant a loan for housing in a certain neighborhood) was used to make sure blacks did not purchase houses in white subdivisions.  Public pools were also made private in an attempt to keep the color lines separate and work around the integration laws.  In this episode, Dr. Peter Weinstein and Dr. Phillip Nelson discuss a few forms of de facto segregation and touch on what it was really like growing up during the '60s and '70s.  Join us for another Courageous Conversation and continue to share! 

From Jackie Robinson and Wilt Chamberlain to Mohammed Ali and Arthur Ash - sports figures made headway in the sports arena while simultaneously bringing social injustices to light.  In this episode, Dr. Peter Weinstein and Dr. Phillip Nelson reflect on some of their past sports heroes and discuss how they helped shape American society outside of their perspective sport.  Join us and please share this discussion!

This episode is dedicated to all heroes; from the Civil Rights era & beyond.  This week's discussion includes well-known heroes like Malcom X, Martin Luther King, and Medger Evers, to more personal ones like the hosts' fathers.  No one is off-limits in this part one episode and things get personal.   *Join the discussion and check back next week for part two!  

This week, Dr. Phillip Nelson and Dr. Peter Weinstein discuss the documentary 13th; a film that explores the history of racial inequality in the United States and highlights how slavery transcended into what some have termed modern-day slavery.    When the nation's prisons are disproportionately filled with African-Americans, can we truly state that slavery no longer exists? How did we get here? Join us as we delve into this week's episode!

Dr. Peter Weinstein shares his childhood pet's names were "Blackey" and "Whitey" which creates an entire conversation about the meaning of words and the unintended implications behind them.   Dr. Phillip Nelson attests that sometimes words are just what they are on the surface, without having to dig too deep!  Join us for a more light-hearted episode this week and share with friends!

 Dr. Peter Weinstein and Dr. Phillip Nelson dive deeper into people of color's fear of the police from the 1960s to today.  This episode covers different views on the police, lawlessness,  and also entails an altercation Dr. Nelson saw between the freedom fighters and the police during (what was supposed to be) a peaceful protest.  Join us!

Dr. Peter Weinstein & Dr. Phillip Nelson delve deep into the Black Lives Matter Movement and further discuss how defunding the police (a phrase that came out of that movement) is viewed from both sides.  Join the conversation!

African-Americans currently only make up 2% of the Veterinary Medicine profession.  This episode may offer you some insight into why.  This week, Dr. Peter Weinstein and Dr. Phillip Nelson discuss some pivotal moments Dr. Nelson had to personally overcome when first entering the predominately white profession, and some pressures he presently deals with when trying to diversify the profession to this day.    Join us for another Courageous Conversation!

In this episode, Dr. Peter Weinstein and Dr. Phillip Nelson expand on last week's topic,  "What Happen's Next?"   Delving into politics for the first time - they discuss how laws and certain actions from government officials help shape our society. Laws and policies are necessary to fight racial injustice and create long-lasting change,  but what happens when you change the laws but not the opposing side's heart?  Join us as we discuss!   

In the summer of 2020, the world saw millions take to the streets in protest of George Floyd's murder at a level unseen in decades.   However, as the street protests lessened, Peter calls Phil disheartened about the loss of momentum.  This courageous conversation between Peter & Phil focuses on why the momentum was unsustainable at its current level in the first place,  and what young Americans need to think about next.  Join us!

The death of George Floyd brought millions of US citizens to the streets in protest of police brutality.  One term that came from that uprising was "Defund the police."  However, the call for the defunding of police departments across the country left some people on opposing sides confused and angry.  Why would anyone really want to defund the police?   In this episode, Dr. Phillip Nelson and Dr. Peter Weinstein delve into the phrase and offer some alternative solutions for this mostly political call to action.     What does it truly mean?  Why is there mistrust towards law enforcement by POC in the first place?  How are POC treated differently by officers? Join us for some of the answers and let's start the conversation!

Data from the NAACP shows that African-Americans are five times more likely to be stopped by the police without cause.  As a result, some of the first conversations black parents have with their children are those of surviving everyday encounters with law enforcement officers.   This episode touches on several topics including: 'The Talk' as it pertains to Phil speaking with his sons; Peter's views on the term white privilege; and Phil's first realization he was different from his white counterparts.   Join us for another great episode!

Phil probes into Peter's childhood and finds that Peter had a housekeeper growing up.  However, like many black domestic workers of that time, Peter shares that was not her only role.   "So you had a nanny?" Phil interjects.    As a child, Peter saw her as part of the family, but after some introspection - Peter is left to ask himself - what are his views on her role now?   In this episode, Peter delves deep into what it was like growing up in New York during integration; living with a nanny; his first time hearing the term white privilege and resolving white guilt.   Join us for another awesome episode!

From the auction blocks of Savannah, Georgia in the 1800s to the Freedom Marches of Selma, Alabama, and Jackson, Mississippi in the 1960s, the Deep South has had a troubled past.  With so much to overcome, one may wonder, where does it stand today?  This episode, "The Deep South - How Bad is it Really?"  answers the question those not in the south have always wanted to ask, but may not have dared.    Dr. Peter Weinstein and Dr. Phillip Nelson (born and raised in the South) dive deep in this second installment of Peter & Phil's Courageous Conversations, touching on the issues of overt/covert racism,  the delay/deny- delay/deceit strategy during integration,  and the current culture and climate of the South today.   Join us!

In the summer of 2020,  Dr. Peter Weinstein (a white man from the east coast) picked up the phone and called Dr. Phillip Nelson (a black man from the South) seeking an understanding of the current racial divide in America.  What he got was a conversation so intense it would spur an entire podcast into being.  This first conversation highlights the topic of white stress and guilt, George Floyd’s death,  and why whites still can't relate to the struggles of black people.   Thank you for joining in.