Saving People, Queering Things

Hunter's rule of the day? Always assume the monster has opposable thumbs. Join Sam (who we keep interrupting) Noah, and Elayna to discuss how every episode could be made better by Cas, how every episode is made worse because by the effects of John Winchester, and how the whole show could be summed up by the phrase, "and then they run". This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 11: Sam, Interrupted through the lens of the Hermit card from the Supernatural tarot deck. CW: This episode contains content regarding mental health, suicide ideation, and sexual assault, and contains discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion. Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com! If you want more fun from the SPN Pod Squad, tune into Wayward Parents, our podcasters about The Winchesters, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com! #SaveTheWinchesters Supernatural Tarot Deck: https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Supernatural-Tarot-Deck-and-Guidebook/Minerva-Siegel/9781647221218

It's the chaos collab of the century, as our whole team of August, Sam, Noah, and Elayna are joined by our dear friends—Hannah, Beth, and Sarah of Raising Perdition, KJ from Supernatural Opinions, and Beth and Jamie from Driver Picks the Podcast—to discuss one of the best episodes in the Supernatural canon. It's a wonderful romp full of Bi Dean trutherism, the writers having the cursed gift of prophecy, and confusion about how angelic TV show pocket dimensions function in reality. This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 8: Changing Channels through the lens of the Magician card from the Supernatural tarot deck. This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion. Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com! If you want more fun from the SPN Pod Squad, tune into Wayward Parents, our podcasters about The Winchesters, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com!

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Dean Winchester? Apologizing? In this economy? 😅 Join Noah and August this week as they discuss immortal queen of the unexpected cameo, Paris Hilton, how we could have had it all seeing a decapitated wax John Winchester, and how just very very extra the early 2010's cringe is this episode. This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 5: Fallen Idols through the lens of the Six of Blades card from the Supernatural tarot deck. This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion. Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com! If you want more fun from the SPN Pod Squad, tune into Wayward Parents, our podcasters about The Winchesters, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com! Supernatural Tarot Deck: https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Supernatural-Tarot-Deck-and-Guidebook/Minerva-Siegel/9781647221218

There’s two things we know for certain—one, Bert and Ernie are gay. Two? So are Dean and Cas. This week, August, Elayna and Noah are joined by special guest Pluto (aka, the queerbaitscholar!) for a discussion of one of quite possibly the most overtly queer episodes of the series. From the “personal space” conversation we wish we’d had to the deep meaning behind the title of the episode, this deep dive into a fan favorite isn’t one to miss.

You can find Pluto and all of their social media here: https://linktr.ee/spideyhighlighty

This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 3: Free to Be You and Me, through the lens of the Two of Blades card from the Supernatural tarot deck. This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18, including topics of sexual assault and addiction within this episode. Listen with discretion. Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com! If you want more fun from the SPN Pod Squad, tune into Wayward Parents, our podcasters about The Winchesters, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com! Supernatural Tarot Deck: https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Supernatural-Tarot-Deck-and-Guidebook/Minerva-Siegel/9781647221218

Oh the Destiel of it all! Join hosts August and Elayna, along with guest hosts Hannah and Beth of Raising Perdition podcast! We talk about how much we love a Castiel girl boss moment, how heart wrenching it is to watch Dean almost give up the impala, and are just a little shocked at how early the Destiel vibes started. This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 2: Good God Y’All, through the lens of the Two of Bones card from the Supernatural tarot deck. This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18, including topics of sexual assault and addiction within this episode. Listen with discretion. Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com! If you want more fun from the SPN Pod Squad, tune into Wayward Parents, our podcasters about The Winchesters, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com! Supernatural Tarot Deck: https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Supernatural-Tarot-Deck-and-Guidebook/Minerva-Siegel/9781647221218

All aboard the trauma train! Join August, Noah and Elayna as they wrap up season four with a banger of an episode that discusses Ruby’s big girl boss moment, how much it hurts to see Sammy go full dark side, and how Dean is a bisexual switch king who’s just here to break shit.

This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 22: Lucifer Rising, through the theme of Free Will.

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This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18, and this episode in particular delves into conversations about addiction & withdrawal. Listen with discretion.

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New Winchester brother just dropped. 😅 August, Noah, and Elayna discuss the introduction of Adam Milligan, how much we love soft brotherly moments (even if they’re rare), and how John Winchester continues to be the absolute worst dad of the century. 

This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 19: Jump the Shark, through the theme of Nurturing.   

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Yes, that is a Ken doll outfit they based Dean’s whole personality on. Join Sam, Noah and Elayna as they discus the infamous workplace AU, the weird feeling you get when the Winchester brothers get to exist without all their ✨ trauma ✨ and, and add more fuel to fire that is the running list of Reasons Dean is Queer AF™️.

This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 17: It’s a Terrible Life, through the theme of Grudges.

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It’s “depression on toast” this week as Noah, Elayna & August welcome back guest host Allie to talk about one of Dean’s hardest moments. We talk about mentor!Anna encouraging Cas to rebel, the virtues of both Swiftienatural & Psychnatural, and what makes Uriel the “funniest angel in the garrison”.

This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 16: On the Head of a Pin, through the theme of Cowardice. 

Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com! For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow the Pod Squad's new series on The Winchesters, Wayward Parents, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com! 

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Another day, another instance of Sam & Dean disrupting the natural order, as they work a case where it seems the local reapers are all on vacation. Join hosts Noah and Sam while they discuss the brother’s different approaches to hunting (research vs street smarts!) and all the ways in which the writers did Pamela dirty.

This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 15: Death Takes a Holiday, through the theme of Foresight.

Content Warnings for this episode: Topics of discussion include death of a female character and briefly addressing ableist jokes.

Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com! For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow the Pod Squad's new series on The Winchesters, Wayward Parents, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com!

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Dean discussing literary classics in a strip club? It’s more likely than you think! Join Noah, Abigail, Elayna, and friends/fellow podcasters Hannah and Beth (of the show Raising Perdition) for the infamous “siren episode”! We dig into how casually cool Sam is with the idea of his brother hooking up with a dude, the season four descent of the brother’s distrust of one another, and how Dean just 404 errors in the face of people flirting with him. This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 14: Sex and Violence, through the theme of Vices. 

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Find links to Hannah and Beth’s podcast, Raising Perdition, and more, at linktr.ee/raisingperdition! 

For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow the Pod Squad's new series on The Winchesters, Wayward Parents, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com!

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It's a sibling duo extravaganza this week, as hosts Abigail, Sam, and Noah are joined once again by Theo, for four former homeschoolers' hot takes on Sam and Dean's messed up public school education. This heavy SPN episode may try to disguise itself as Dean in a silly pair of gym shorts, but that doesn't stop us from having honest discussions about the impacts of bullying, how Dean feels more comfortable being neglected, and how educators who care can truly change a young person's (especially Sam Winchester's) life.

This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 13: After School Special, through the theme of Neglect.

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Will Noah have the gift of prophecy with this week’s predications? Join him, Elayna, and Abigail as they find out! There’s a talk on tarot symbolism, how we love when witchy Sam enters the chat, and we discuss how Dean is DEFINITELY into Bears. 😅 This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 12: Criss Angel is a Douchebag, through the theme of Desire.

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It’s a sibling special this week as Abigail and Sam get together for a deep dive into this VERY layered episode and how it examines family trauma. Hear them talk about the canon’s blurring line between humans and monsters, and find out their exact opposite reactions to how they’d handle being stuck in a horror movie scenario. 

This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 11: Family Remains, through the theme of Temptation. 

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Is it Cas? Is *he* the drama? Join Abigail & Noah as they discuss the return of “Mystery Spot!Sam”, the parallels between how the brothers handle losing each other, and debate if crossroad demons should unionize. This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 9: I Know What You Did Last Summer, through the theme of Grace. 

Learn more about Elayna's book (a queer YA fantasy novel in verse) at stillthestars.com! 

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This week Abigail is joined by guest host Hayley for a discussion on Yellow Fever, an episode that is not *quite* as goofy as we recall. We talk about how Dean's real fear is emotional vulnerability, how Sam is super case focused while his brother spirals, and how Luther as a character is very much a symbol for how horribly humans lean into othering that which they don't understand.

This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 6: Yellow Fever, through the theme of Human Nature. CW for discussions of abuse, violence towards neurodivergent folks, and homophobia. 

Find Hayley online on Twitter: @deanapologist_ (https://twitter.com/deanapologist_) and on TikTok: @deanapologist (https://www.tiktok.com/@deanapologist?_t=8Wl4GyCwTwM&_r=1)

Find us online at www.queeringthingspodcast.com! For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow Elayna & Abigail's new show about the upcoming CW series, The Winchesters—Wayward Parents!

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*shuffles notecards* For your consideration, we've got a bunch of new bits of evidence that lend themselves to the Trans!Dean theory! Join Elayna, Noah, and guest host Jenn while they discuss how much they love a good ol' genre-bending gimmick episode, and marvel at the sheer number of Psych actors that seem to appear on this show. 

This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 5: Monster Movie, through the theme of Beauty. 

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For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow Elayna & Abigail's new show about the upcoming CW series, The Winchesters—Wayward Parents!

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We survived this season even if Dean did not! Join Abigail, Elayna & Noah as they enter Awards Season for Season 3 of Supernatural. How many awards can Gordon rack up? How does Noah describe the "season according to Bela"?  Find out our highs and lows, what episode we'd remove if we could, which character has the most interesting arc, & a pitch for a Season 4 where San and Ben take a roadtrip. Did we hand out awards to the right characters? Is there anyone we did dirty with our nominations? Hit us up on social media with your thoughts, and join us mid-week for our Season 4 Preview! To all of you who have joined us for Season 3, we are so grateful for you and excited for the road ahead together! 

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It's the penultimate episode of season 3, so Noah, Abigail, and Elayna are here to discuss what might be Sam's wildest idea yet—FrankenDean!! There's throwbacks to Charlie the Unicorn, an in depth look at the differences between heritage and legacy, and theories about how Rufus and Bobby could have once been a thing. (Bobfus? Rubob? Give us your ship name suggestions!) 

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It's all about heartbreak on this week's episode, featuring Abigail, Elayna, returning host Renny, and first time guest host Jenn! Join us as we take a look at Bobby's sad backstory, worry about Dean's future, discuss demisexual Sam Winchester rights, and score so badly on the Bechdel that we give this episode a -1. 

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Find Jenn online on Twitter, TikTok, Tumblr, and Ao3, where she's @rupertgayes.

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This week, guest star KJ uses their knowledge of Riverdale to teach Sam and Noah how to pronounce Malleus Maleficarum, they discuss Ruby's loyalty to Sam and Sam's unexpected loyalty to her, and the breakdown in Sam and Dean's relationship as a result. The most foolish book club in the history of book clubs does very un-book club things, and Sam displays increasingly unhinged, reckless behaviour as he plans for a future without Dean. 

CW: Brief discussion of body horror and body horror related to food.

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Sterling K. Brown does not disappoint, but Gordon's last appearance makes Noah sad this week, as Abigail, Noah, & guest Jesse have a lot of ideas about how "Fresh Blood" could be improved. Sam's critical thinking skills are in question, Gordon undergoes an unwilling transformation, John Winchester slander is a recurring theme, and Dean wins "most improved in terms of showing vulnerability.

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Content warnings: Discussions of homophobia, racism, religious zeal, AIDS, and violence towards a black character.

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Join hosts Abigail and Elayna, along with guest host Allie for a dive into ghost infested waters for Season 3, Episode 6! They talk about the cringe fashions of 2005, how Sam, Dean & Bela respectively deal with trauma, and how vengeful spirits can be stopped with… *checks notes* … the power of hugs? 

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Bela is "confident but casual", Gordon is still on his anti-Sam mission, and we are once again asking the question of why John didn't share vital information with his kids. Turns out you're always unlucky if you're a Winchester! In this episode, Noah, Elayna & guest Alyssa talk about how the freedom of the rabbit's foot is ultimately a trap every character has to outsmart to survive.  Also featured: The first instance of "idjits" from Bobby, Bela as a foil for Dean, and the contrast of which of Sam and Dean's childhood trinkets John chose to keep.

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Dean is sliding into Lisa's DMs and Sam is forced on the most awkward near-death vacation in 3.02: The Kids are Alright. Join Abigail, Noah & Renny as they talk about Lisa, get a shock when we realize how old Ben would be in 2022, and debate Dean's questionable but valiantly attempted parenting skills - all through the theme of Vacation. Oh, and Ruby is a demon. 

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Dean lives it up while Sam tries to find a way to save him, until they're interrupted by the seven deadly sins. Join Abigail, Noah, and Elayna as they discuss the importance of family in the season 3 premiere, offer a blessing for Tamara, and talk about why Bobby has more parenting skills in mere minutes of screen time than John Winchester had in his whole life. 

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Ride along with our fearless co-hosts as they lay out the roadmap for Season 3! Mostly they have a bunch of chuckles while remembering to talk about the upcoming season of the show. What’s going to happen to Dean and his deal? Is Sam poised to go dark side for real? Will we continue to talk about John’s terrible parenting? All coming up in Season 3, every Monday.

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The end of season two is upon us, and the whole family came along for the ride! Abigail, Noah, Elayna, and Sam are joined once again by returning guest host Hana to discuss the iconic finale, All Hell Breaks Loose Pt 2 through the theme of Free Will. 

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Join Abigail, Noah, Elayna, and friends as they explore the themes & lore of the CW series Supernatural through a queer, narrative lens.

When Dean finds himself trapped in a dream where he has everything he's ever wanted, he'll have to face the difficult decision between redemption and what's real. Join hosts Abigail, Noah, and Elayna, along with guest host Renny, as they dig into Dean's heart and the hard choices he'll have to make between saving his brother or living the quiet, peaceful life he could have had if he'd never become a hunter. 

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Protection is the name of the hunter's game, but who deserves to be protected? In an episode where Sam and Dean make the voluntary decision to get arrested, Dean takes an anti-death penalty stance, we question if John thought the world needed to be protected from Sam, and we challenge the idea that Deacon is heroic based on the violence he exhibits. Our favourite conversation this week centres around Tiny, who is humanized in a really important way, and how his story is another mirror of the Winchester's relationships. 

Content warnings: fatphobia, child abuse, prison violence.

Other references: The Boys, Bad Boys.

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Abigail references a theory from KJ & a headcanons episode we collaborated on which is available here: https://linktr.ee/SupernaturalOpinionsPodcast 

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What kind of joy do we find in our work? It's a pop culture and meta madness extravaganza this week - join Abigail and new guest host Ian as they talk about 2:18: Hollywood Babylon through the lens of Enjoyment. They swap nerd stories, revel in all the moments where Dean gets to be an unapologetic dork on this case, and talk about Dean's Hollywood crushes. 

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What is the meaning of innocence in a world that's full of monsters? Join Abigail and Sam as they discuss mirroring characters within this episode's narrative arc, as well try to define what exactly constitutes "evil" in a world that the Winchester brothers are learning is more morally gray than they were raised to believe.

Content warnings for discussion of assault.

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So will there be peace when they are done? Abigail and special guest KJ from Supernatural Opinions discuss this unique episode that is told almost exclusively from the POV of the very ghost Sam and Dean are hoping to put to rest. Listen in for an awesome talk about what it means for spirits to find peace, and how sometimes the hardest part is letting go.

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Who deserves mercy? Abigail & Klaudia explore "Houses of the Holy" and how Sam and Dean individually deal with questions of faith. They discuss how Sam's faith sustains him and how Dean's lack of faith is challenged.  Klaudia and Abigail also bond over their shared experiences in fandom on Tumblr in the 2010s and make many, many references to other works such as Tangled, Star Wars, & Doctor Who. 

This is a spoiler-full episode, because we couldn't resist making connections to future storylines!  Listen for many Castiel, angels, and Destiel references in this episode. Spoilers for Seasons 4, 5, 11, and 15. 

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Listen to RuPalp's Podrace: https://rupalps-podrace-a-queer-star-wars-podcast.simplecast.com/ 

Listen to Mystery Spotcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-mystery-spotcast-a-supernatural-rewatch/id1593079965

Fic Rec of the Week: Untangled by quwarichi: https://archiveofourown.org/works/35063611/chapters/87338353

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What happens if we use technology out of fear? Jacob, Sam & Abigail explore "Nightshifter", the return of shapeshifters, and the tragic earnestness of Ronald. They reflect on the fact that Dean connects more with Ronald than Sam does and question what might have happened if the Winchesters had not pretended to disbelieve his interpretation of the situation. Abigail also takes a great deal of joy from saying "Mandroid", which does not help them seem any less Dean-coded.

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What happens when pursuing peace becomes violent? Abigail and Jessy explore "Playthings", exploring how Sam and Dean's pursuits of peace are diametrically opposed and how their parentified relationship only makes that more apparent. They discuss Sam's morality, Dean's love for a classic queer-read character, and how gothic horror tropes contribute to the lack of peace every character has by the end of the episode. CW: This episode is often used for an interpretation that involves inc*st. We reject explicitly this interpretation, but we decided to leave our in-depth discussion of it out of the main episode, choosing to focus instead on a defensible interpretation that sees Dean as queer-coded and closeted at this point in the story.  We think that focus allows us to stick by the values that we are bringing to this show and these conversations. We know that this topic can be a difficult and painful one for fans and so we wanted to leave you the option of avoiding it easily. If you do want to hear that conversation, it will be available on our Discord server, which you can access through the Linktree at the bottom of this description. 

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How do we break traumatic patterns? Abigail & KJ explore "Hunted", how Sam is struggling with his anger, and how Dean chooses to respond to his fear. They also discuss how Ellen is a hunter parent without traumatizing her kid, how John makes Dean responsible for Sam's morality, and a queer reading, this time of Sam!

*A Note this week: We had some technical difficulties with our platform which resulted in some edits being lost last minute, so there is more rambling than usual this episode!

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Find KJ: @lifemessesofKJ and their show Supernatural Opinions: https://linktr.ee/SupernaturalOpinionsPodcast.

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How do we make good judgment calls in bad situations?  Abigail & Hana explore 2.09, hunting ethics, and judgment's connection to salvation, particularly Sam's. Dean expresses (again) a desire to get out of the life, & Sam continues to fight his dark side. They also talk about the racism and misappropriation of indigenous history inherent in this episode's plot. Additionally, there is yet another example of Dean Winchester's complicated relationship with sexuality (#deanisbi)!

Content warning for a (non-graphic) discussion of racism, colonialism, and the erasure of indigenous history. 

The audio quality is a bit echoey at moments in this episode and we apologize for that! 

Fanfic Recommendation: No Line on the Horizon: https://spnstoryfinders.livejournal.com/10635000.html

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What is worth committing your soul for? Jai and Abigail explore the repercussions of making a deal with a demon and the significant moral crossroads that Dean reaches in 2.08: Crossroad Blues.  They discuss what it means for Dean to carry the guilt of someone else's commitment, and speculate on how that decision will influence his self-perception and future choices.

We had so much fun recording this episode that it ran long, so you can find our Fanfic recommendation section of the week discussed over on Discord!

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What were Sam and Dean doing from 2001-2005? Abigail & KJ come up with canon-based (and fan-based) theories for the Stanford era, including Sam and Jess' apartment, an AU theory where Jess knows about the supernatural, ideas about Dean & Lee Webb's relationship (#deanisbi), multiple headcanons about Sam's hair, Dean's GED, and more!

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How does privilege affect how we experience adversity? Renny and Abigail explore 2.07 and ask the all-important question - how does Sam hack so many passwords? They discuss the clever way that the Winchesters use communication to overcome adversity. This week's supernatural being is the victim of this episode, which leads to a conversation about adversity, gender, and victimization. 

Content warning for discussions of violence against women.

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Is it jealousy, or is it chemistry?  Abigail is joined by guest Frances to talk about 2.06, Jo's first hunt, serial killers, and jealousy. Sam and Dean are finally working with other hunters and it's complicated. Frances shares her extensive knowledge of the origins of this week's monster, and Jo and Dean bond and clash over their relationship with hunter fathers. 

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What do you do when your mind is being attacked? Abigail, Jamie & Beth discuss 1.05, talk about the special children with their morally complicated powers, come up with a theory for why Ash knows Enochian, and rage about John Winchester's disconnection with other hunters. Also, more conversations about Dean + gender!  

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How do we have willpower of our own actions? Abigail & Noah talk about 2.04, the importance of consent, and how willpower gets twisted into abuse by this week's monsters. They also explore the battle of wills between Sam and Dean in relation to addressing their family trauma. This episode is anchored by the phrase "what's dead should stay dead", adding further fuel to the fire of Dean Winchester's self-hatred and heavily foreshadowing what is to come.

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Is hunting valorous? Abigail & Renny talk about 1.03 and the introduction of Gordon Walker. Is a monster 'evil' because it's not human or because of the things it does?  Is shoot first, ask questions later the only way to hunt? They talk about the confidence that Sam brings to this moral quandary and the mid-episode flip that Dean makes. Finally, they have a theory about Ty Olsson's character Eli! 

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How do we survive impossible grief? Abigail and KJ talk about 2.02, Dean's survivor guilt, the line between human and monster, and the introduction of Jo and Ellen Harvelle! They find it hilarious how Dean is unable to lie in a job interview, tragic when Sam drops a confirmation that he's not going back to school, and discuss Ash's possible backstory. They also talk about how Sam and Dean's perceptions of John have shifted since his death. 

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Is family all about who we have faith in? Abigail and Hana discuss 2.01 and how Sam's choices in the Season One finale give Dean the ability to cling to life. They explore how John's authoritarian parenting breaks down when Sam refuses to rise to the revenge bait and how half-hearted attempts at connection are nullified by the lack of behaviour change. Hana shares their experiences with powerful sibling bonds and Abigail has observations about directing choices.  

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It's awards season! Abigail & cohosts recap the events of Season One and give out awards, including favourite female character, character with the most potential, a character with the best arc and most tragic character. They also preview what we're excited about for Season Two! 

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In this Season 1 Finale episode, Abigail & Hana talk about Devil's Trap through the theme of Free Will, focusing on the big choice Sam makes between John and Dean and the moral quandry of what to do with a nearly-dead girl who has a demon keeping her alive but stripping her of free will. They also talk about the introduction of Bobby Singer, hunter extraordinaire and what his knowledge of the supernatural means for the Winchesters, the sexualization of Meg's character, the shift in Dean's relationship with John, and the still-unsolved mystery of the yellow-eyed demon. Next week we will be doing our final Season 1 episode, including an awards show for Season 1 characters, a thematic season recap, and what we're anticipating for Season 2!  

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How do we sort through traumatic memories? Abigail is joined by three siblings: Hana, Noah & Theo for a conversation about 1.21, sibling feelings, and the continuing hunt for the demon. They talk about John & Sam's pre-season fights, "passable strategist" John Winchester, and the way that Dean positions himself in both his relationships.  

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Abigail talks about the Confession. And Cas. And Dean. They discuss why the events of 15.18 were significant to them as a queer fan and how Destiel and the Confession have impacted the fandom as a whole. They also talk about their favourite sources of Destiel content, including video essays, fanfics, video edits, and meta accounts.   We will return with our episode on Season 1, Episode 21 on Monday, November 8th! Everything talked about in this episode: Meta/Analysis: The Evolution of Destiel Dean being "overtly heterosexual" for 17 minutes Proudheller on Instagram Zephyr_Aria on Instagram SPN scenes that hit different now destiel is canon Fan-edits: "No Light, No Light"  dean & castiel / willow  Dean & Castiel - Explosions American Pie // the supernatural story Crazy Ex-SPN Fanfics: Psalm 40.2 Maybe Sprout Wings  In Due Time (Dean Winchester is Saved)  Repair Our Losses and Be a Blessing Hold onto your voice, hold onto your breath  For All You Young Hockey Players Out There, Pay Attention  My Self is Just Me: Please Get Me The Fuck Out  A different lover is not a sin Ninety-One Whiskey Find us on the internet: www.queeringthingspodcast.com

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Alesha and Abigail take a tangential discussion into the events of Season 15: Episode 20 because of its connection to this week's Season 1: Episode 20.

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How can we know that we are not wasting our knowledge? Abigail & Alesha discuss 1.20, talk about the wasted information John held on to by not exposing his sons to more hunters, and explore how Supernatural handles its first crack at vampire lore. In an attempt to figure out what kind of characterization the writers were going for with John they come to some conclusions about his actual skills (and which skills he lacks) as a hunter.  

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How is masculinity connected to economic status? Abigail & Jacob talk about 1.19, Sam's challenge connecting with Sarah so soon after Jess' death, and Abigail has a pet peeve concerning the Impala's presentation. Jacob also shares some personal stories about how masculinity limits boys from expressing emotional vulnerability, and they connect with how this episode demonstrates that. 

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Does revenge make it impossible for us to see anything else? In this flashback episode, Renny, Abigail & Sam talk about 1.18 and are back to their favourite discussion topic: John Winchester's parenting. How are Sam and Dean circumventing the neglect of their childhood in their own hunting practices? 

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Is youthfulness the same as childishness? Abigail and Hana talk about 1.17, their own experiences of sibling bonding, and explore how Sam and Dean tap into their inner child through play. Abigail also uses the term "muck about" multiple times for no apparent reason. They talk about Dean and his complicated performance of masculinity and sexuality, as well as all the horror and adolescence tropes that show up in this episode.  

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How and why do we resist peer pressure? Sam gets high, Jacob has a drink, and Abigail attempts to wrangle them both in for this discussion of 1.16. They talk about the weird flirting between Meg & Sam, the conflict between Sam and Dean about what happens after they kill the demon, and our impressions of the Winchester trio as a whole family unit.  

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When is imagination dangerous? Jacob & Abigail talk about 1.15, creativity (both good & bad), and question what makes a monster a monster. In an episode with no supernatural creature, how do we think about the actions characters take to confront evil? They also talk about horror tropes and gender and Abigail has a revelation about the significance of Hibbing, MN within the Supernatural universe. 

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Does what we're zealous about reveal what has hurt us? Abigail, Hana & Alesha explore 1:14, speculate in-depth about Sam's new abilities & talk about the connection between him & Max. They also talk about John Winchester's shitty parenting and the way that both Sam and Dean's particular zealous traits stem from their childhood experiences.  

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If we understand reality, will that make us humble? This week, Abigail & Renny explore 1:13, the magnificent Cassie Robinson, and ask the question "what is humility?" They discuss the humbling of white characters in this episode as they are confronted with racist violence and explore the significance of Cassie & Dean's relationship in humbling them both.  

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How do our connections with faith help us answer hard questions? Abigail is joined by Sam, Renny, & Hana for a discussion on 1:12. They talk about Dean's view of himself, his concepts of worthiness and salvation, and the contrast between Sam's internal faith and Dean's external faith. They also discuss Sam in a caretaker role and explore the imagery of hands, touch, and kneeling as visual symbols of faith and sexuality.  

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What makes a hero? Abigail & Sam introduce their friend Jacob to the show with a discussion of 1:11. Jacob has some interesting theories about why Dean seems to be avoiding John (and who Meg really is). They also discuss how Sam and Dean's different reactions to John give us clues about their family dynamics. 

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What do we do when suffering makes us feel vengeful? Abigail & Sam discuss 1:10, the nature of suffering, whether or not Sam really is angry enough to pull the trigger on Dean, and how this episode brings to a head the conflicts that have been brewing all season. They also talk about Dean's love of horror films and continue to be disappointed in the lack of female characters talking to each other.

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What do you do when you're confronted with the spirits of your past? Abigail & Renny discuss 1:09, rant about John Winchester's lack of maturity and how it impacts his parenting, as well as discussing the (surprising) emotional maturity & vulnerability expressed by both Sam & Dean in this episode. There's also a great deal of love for Missouri Mosely!

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In this mini-update, Abigail talks through the decision to skip "Bugs" in our watch-through.  But this doesn't mean we're taking a week off...Episode 9, Home, will be available on Monday, our regularly scheduled release day!

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Do we own grief, or does it own us? Abigail & Hana discuss 1:07 and talk forced gratitude, religious guilt, emotional repression, and the show’s continual exploration of Sam’s ownership over his guilt and grief.  They also have their first sighting of bisexual Dean Winchester along with a discussion about queer reading, interpretation, & value-laden texts. CW for religious themes.

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Is sacrifice inherently positive, or can it be manipulative? Abigail, Clair & Hana discuss 1:06, exploring how the show plays with making sympathetic monsters and how it uses those monsters to contrast with our main characters. 

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Do we really want to know the truth about ourselves? Abigail & Clair explore 1:05, the show's use of classic Americana mythology, and the quest for self-knowledge (or lack thereof) characterizing the characters in this episode.

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How do we choose our priorities in life? Abigail & Clair talk 1:04 and explore how Sam and Dean choose what to prioritize on this hunt and what that reveals about them and the show as a whole. They also talk about the show's monster lore, specifically in relation to its introduction of demons in this episode.

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Can fear make us courageous? Abigail & Renny discuss 1.03, exploring the ways that the show uses fear as a driver for courage and cowardice in its characters. They also discuss how great Dean is with kids and what we're excited to see in both Winchester's character arcs moving forward. 

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Why is it so important to us to belong? Abigail, Sam & Hana discuss 1.02: Wendigo, and how it develops the Winchester's relationship and their Season 1 growth trajectory. They also address the problem of cultural misappropriation within Supernatural and this episode in particular.

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How do we honour the promises we make to each other? In this pilot episode, your host Abigail and their sister Sam discuss the first episode of Supernatural. The explore the promises that Sam and Dean make to each other, to themselves, and to the hunting world and talk about how the show introduces us to these characters. 

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