
Saving People, Queering Things
By Saving People, Queering Things

Saving People, Queering ThingsMay 02, 2022

QPST | 1.03 | This Was Not the Deal!
The gang starts to realize they might not be in Texas anymore. 🙃 As Mo is whisked away to level up in a training montage of sorts with (just) Kelly (the guy), our other lost explorers are experiencing weird dreams of their own.
Families start disappearing, a rogue dognapping results in broken trust, and a mysterious stranger from someone's past all thicken the plot, until one member of the party makes a pretty feral, fateful mistake.
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Ep 5.21 | Assistant to the Regional Death
Noah, August, and Elayna are here to say the word 'penultimate' like twenty times! (And maybe talk about the actual episode at some point, idk) Catch their chat about how much it sucks to be human, Bobby's possible late-in-life gay awakening, and how the next logical step is always a kazoo. This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 21: Two Minutes to Midnight through the lens of The Hierophant card from the Supernatural tarot deck.
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This episode contains discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion. Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com! Don't miss out on our new show, Queering People, Saving Throws, a D&D adventure podcast, releasing every other Friday right here on our feed! Supernatural Tarot Deck: https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Supernatural-Tarot-Deck-and-Guidebook/Minerva-Siegel/9781647221218

Ep 5.20 | Sam’s Doing His Best
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This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 20: The Devil You Know through the lens of The King of Pentagrams card from the Supernatural tarot deck.
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QPST | 1.02 | Just Kelly the Guy
The SAG-AFTRA strike has reached a tentative agreement but the Queering People, Saving Throws adventure continues! Our players have STRONG opinions on Skittles! Still lost in the woods of Big Bend National park, the party is faced with a complex timing issue, meet a mysterious figure in the woods, and find themselves at a crossroads-both literally and figuratively.
Queer Crew Socials: August ~ @astralspock, Elayna ~ @elaynamae, KJ ~ @editingKJ, Noah ~ @twentyonedevils
Supernatural Opinions: https://linktr.ee/SupernaturalOpinionsPodcast
Queering Things: queeringthingspodcast.com

Ep 5.19 | It’s Very Sibling™️
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This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 19: Hammer of the Gods through the lens of Seven of Bones card from the Supernatural tarot deck.
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Check out Theo’s art at https://instagram.com/art.gal.lery!

QPST | 1.01 | Head Empty, Just Tree
Queering People, Saving Throws | Head Empty, Just Tree
Join us for the start of a magically queer journey for an unsuspecting group of college students and one park ranger heading off on an early-aughts school trip in Big Bend National Park!
Ranger Montgomery (Sam) is leading a group of environmental science students on a trip through their park when things go a little… weird. Mo is left to guide four students to safety: Avery Thomas (August), a former high school baseball player; Gemma Owens (Elayna) a Scottish woman returning to college as an adult; with Courtney Bryant (KJ, Supernatural Opinions) and her identical twin sister Lizy, a pair of slightly obnoxious former LA residents. Running the narrative, or possibly running after this narrative, is Noah!
As the SAG-AFTRA strike against the AMPTP stretched on, the Saving People, Queering Things hosts have been on a solidarity hiatus, and embarking on a new side-adventure: Queering People, Saving Throws, a D&D-aided original storytelling podcast.
SAG-AFTRA updates: sagaftrastrike.org/
Queer Crew Socials: August ~ @astralspock, Elayna ~ @elaynamae, KJ ~ @editingKJ, Noah ~ @twentyonedevils
Supernatural Opinions: https://linktr.ee/SupernaturalOpinionsPodcast
Queering Things queeringthingspodcast.com

Road Block: SAG-AFTRA & WGA Strike Statement

Ep 5.18 | Team Free Will: Full Throttle
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This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 18: Point of No Return through the lens of Wheel of Fortune card from the Supernatural tarot deck.
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Ep 5.17 | Recommended Angel Dosage
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This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 17: 99 Problems through the lens of Emperor card from the Supernatural tarot deck.
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Ep 5.16 | When They're Not Smart, They're Dumb
No one gets to make fun of the Winchester brothers! (Except for us and the rest of the fandom.) Join Noah, Elayna and August, as well as guest hosts from Supernatural Opinions (KJ) and Raising Winchesters (Sarah) for a visit to some questionable heavens, as we talk about the parentification of Dean and how it started way too damn early.
This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 16: Dark Side of the Moon through the lens of Four of Blades card from the Supernatural tarot deck. This episode contains discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion. Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com!
Catch episodes of Supernatural Opinions here! https://linktr.ee/SupernaturalOpinionsPodcast If you want more fun from the SPN Pod Squad, tune into Wayward Parents, our podcasters about The Winchesters, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com! #SaveTheWinchesters Supernatural Tarot Deck: https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Supernatural-Tarot-Deck-and-Guidebook/Minerva-Siegel/9781647221218
To watch the fan vid mentioned this episode, watch here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dbag2HNsuE&ab_channel=k9lover27

Ep 5.15 | Dead Men Don't Do Taxes

5.14 | Coping Mechanisms May Include
Well Cas sure is handy for moving the plot forward! Join August and returning guest host Renny, to talk about the Winchester's latest face-off with a Horsemen of the Apocalypse. We talk about how Team Free Will is forced to face their deep desires against Famine, how Dean has always helped fans with depression feel seen, and how curious we are to learn more about different angelic classes.
This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 14: My Bloody Valentine through the lens of The Devil card from the Supernatural tarot deck. CW: This episode contains content regarding depression, cannibalism, emotional coercion, fatphobic dialogue, body horror, addiction relapse, and contains discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion. Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com! If you want more fun from the SPN Pod Squad, tune into Wayward Parents, our podcasters about The Winchesters, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com! #SaveTheWinchesters Supernatural Tarot Deck: https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Supernatural-Tarot-Deck-and-Guidebook/Minerva-Siegel/9781647221218

Ep 5.13 | Congratulations, It's John Winchester's First Blood Sigil
What's worse than watching your grandparents die in the past? Watching your dad's villain arc begin when you teach him his first sigil. It's another 70's time travel episode! In this one, Dean maybe ensures the Terminator movies exist, we confirm that John would indeed give in to an archangel, and we mourn the end of the road for Anna (but not before we get in a little pitch for a Mary/Anna gay-romance-that-begins-with-stabbing).
We're officially in the Team Free Will era, and the gang spends some time assigning roles to each other. Finally, we come back to a favourite theme of the Kripke era - free will - and discuss how Dean's determination to make his own choices has been an inspiration to us in our own lives.
This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 13: The Song Remains the Same through the lens of The Empress card from the Supernatural tarot deck. CW: This episode contains discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion. Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com! If you want more fun from the SPN Pod Squad, tune into Wayward Parents, our podcasters about The Winchesters, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com! #SaveTheWinchesters Supernatural Tarot Deck: https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Supernatural-Tarot-Deck-and-Guidebook/Minerva-Siegel/9781647221218

Ep 5.12 | So Your Kids Wanna Dabble in the Dark Arts?
This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 12: Swap Meat through the lens of the Knight of Pentagrams card from the Supernatural tarot deck.
CW: This episode contains content regarding loss of bodily autonomy and sexual assault, and contains discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion.
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Ep 5.11 | Repression Works Sooo Well
Hunter's rule of the day? Always assume the monster has opposable thumbs. Join Sam (who we keep interrupting) Noah, and Elayna to discuss how every episode could be made better by Cas, how every episode is made worse because by the effects of John Winchester, and how the whole show could be summed up by the phrase, "and then they run". This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 11: Sam, Interrupted through the lens of the Hermit card from the Supernatural tarot deck. CW: This episode contains content regarding mental health, suicide ideation, and sexual assault, and contains discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion. Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com! If you want more fun from the SPN Pod Squad, tune into Wayward Parents, our podcasters about The Winchesters, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com! #SaveTheWinchesters Supernatural Tarot Deck: https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Supernatural-Tarot-Deck-and-Guidebook/Minerva-Siegel/9781647221218

Ep 5.10 | This One Broke Us
This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 10: Abandon All Hope through the lens of the Tower card from the Supernatural tarot deck.
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Ep 5.09 | A Brief History of Jumping the Shark

Ep 5.08 | Ten Podcasters in a Trenchcoat
It's the chaos collab of the century, as our whole team of August, Sam, Noah, and Elayna are joined by our dear friends—Hannah, Beth, and Sarah of Raising Perdition, KJ from Supernatural Opinions, and Beth and Jamie from Driver Picks the Podcast—to discuss one of the best episodes in the Supernatural canon. It's a wonderful romp full of Bi Dean trutherism, the writers having the cursed gift of prophecy, and confusion about how angelic TV show pocket dimensions function in reality. This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 8: Changing Channels through the lens of the Magician card from the Supernatural tarot deck. This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion. Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com! If you want more fun from the SPN Pod Squad, tune into Wayward Parents, our podcasters about The Winchesters, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com!
CHECK OUT OUR FELLOW PODCASTERS:
Driver Picks the Podcast: linktr.ee/driverpicksthepodcast
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Raising Winchesters: linktr.ee/raisingwinchesters
OTHER FUN LINKS
Check out Sam's jewelry shop at thecheerandthecharm.ca!
Grab a copy of Elayna's new book at https://a.co/d/eMK3nm2!
See the "Stick to the Status Quo" Supernatural fan-edit here: https://astralspock.tumblr.com/post/680583079247691776/happy-friday-this-is-my-hsmnatural-amv-about-life
Supernatural Tarot Deck: https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Supernatural-Tarot-Deck-and-Guidebook/Minerva-Siegel/9781647221218

Ep 5.07 | Grumpy Old Dean
This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 7: The Curious Case of Dean Winchester through the lens of the Seven of Goblets from the Supernatural tarot deck.
This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion.
Content Warning: this episode discusses depression and characters who express suicide ideation. Please listen with care.
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Ep 5.06 | Bobby’s School for Gifted Youngsters
This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 6: I Believe The Children Are Our Future through the lens of the Justice card from the Supernatural tarot deck.
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Ep 5.05 | The Cringe Is Strong With This One
Dean Winchester? Apologizing? In this economy? 😅 Join Noah and August this week as they discuss immortal queen of the unexpected cameo, Paris Hilton, how we could have had it all seeing a decapitated wax John Winchester, and how just very very extra the early 2010's cringe is this episode. This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 5: Fallen Idols through the lens of the Six of Blades card from the Supernatural tarot deck. This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion. Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com! If you want more fun from the SPN Pod Squad, tune into Wayward Parents, our podcasters about The Winchesters, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com! Supernatural Tarot Deck: https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Supernatural-Tarot-Deck-and-Guidebook/Minerva-Siegel/9781647221218

Ep 5.04 | Endverse Hits Different

Ep 5.03 | Perhaps Gayer Than We Realized
There’s two things we know for certain—one, Bert and Ernie are gay. Two? So are Dean and Cas. This week, August, Elayna and Noah are joined by special guest Pluto (aka, the queerbaitscholar!) for a discussion of one of quite possibly the most overtly queer episodes of the series. From the “personal space” conversation we wish we’d had to the deep meaning behind the title of the episode, this deep dive into a fan favorite isn’t one to miss.
You can find Pluto and all of their social media here: https://linktr.ee/spideyhighlighty
This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 3: Free to Be You and Me, through the lens of the Two of Blades card from the Supernatural tarot deck. This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18, including topics of sexual assault and addiction within this episode. Listen with discretion. Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com! If you want more fun from the SPN Pod Squad, tune into Wayward Parents, our podcasters about The Winchesters, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com! Supernatural Tarot Deck: https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Supernatural-Tarot-Deck-and-Guidebook/Minerva-Siegel/9781647221218

Ep 5.02 | Dean Can’t Use His Words
Oh the Destiel of it all! Join hosts August and Elayna, along with guest hosts Hannah and Beth of Raising Perdition podcast! We talk about how much we love a Castiel girl boss moment, how heart wrenching it is to watch Dean almost give up the impala, and are just a little shocked at how early the Destiel vibes started. This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 2: Good God Y’All, through the lens of the Two of Bones card from the Supernatural tarot deck. This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18, including topics of sexual assault and addiction within this episode. Listen with discretion. Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com! If you want more fun from the SPN Pod Squad, tune into Wayward Parents, our podcasters about The Winchesters, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com! Supernatural Tarot Deck: https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Supernatural-Tarot-Deck-and-Guidebook/Minerva-Siegel/9781647221218

Ep 5.01 | World, Meet the Michael Sword
It's the end of the world as we know it (we don't feel fine). If God is off the board, what does that mean for the apocalypse? Is this all really about a big family feud? A traumatized Noah is worried about Bobby, MEG IS BACK, and it's season 5, y'all!
We go deep into the fallout from season 4 and talk about how Sam, Dean & Bobby address family and broken trust as the conflict at the heart of this episode. The team also explores how Becky is a representation of the writers' feelings towards fans and how we feel about that all these years later. Other highlights - new lore drops explaining angelic vessels, Chuck hits Sam with a plunger (and we love the metaphor of it), and Cas is, thankfully, not dead.
This episode discusses Season 5, Episode 1: Sympathy for the Devil, through the theme of Family.
This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18, including topics of sexual assault and addiction within this episode. Listen with discretion.
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Supernatural Tarot Deck: https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/Supernatural-Tarot-Deck-and-Guidebook/Minerva-Siegel/9781647221218

Route Change | Season 5 Preview: We Can Neither Confirm Nor Deny
It's Season 5 babbyyyyy! Join August, Noah, and Elayna for a preview of what's up next on the road ahead! Find out which episodes Noah is most excited for and catch Elayna and August artfully dodging spoilers. Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com! And it you want more fun from the SPN Pod Squad, tune into Wayward Parents, our podcast about The Winchesters, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com!

BONUS | Destiel Alternate Universes & Fanfiction
We're taking a detour on our way to Season 5 with a fun bonus episode, featuring August and special guest host Jus! Join the two of them for a spoiler-filled love letter of an episode, where we celebrate AUs, fanfics, and how they've shaped the fandom and the people in it. They discuss favorite tropes, the process of building AUs, and the fine lines one must walk to balance things like character voice and canon.
FICS FROM JUS: https://linktr.ee/chaoticdean
"one million fires burning" by dothraki_shieldmaiden https://archiveofourown.org/works/17437451
"The Luck You Got" by Castielslostwings https://archiveofourown.org/works/20970815/chapters/49864028
"When The Magnolias Bloom" by Flurry_X https://archiveofourown.org/works/21864493/chapters/52184266
"Castiel Novak's Office, This Is Dean" by emmbrancsxx0 https://archiveofourown.org/works/22411336/chapters/53545840
"On Life And Living" by one_more_offbeat_anthem https://archiveofourown.org/works/34351084/chapters/85475215
"separate ways and sleeping dogs" by sobsicles https://archiveofourown.org/works/29870592/chapters/73505007

Route Change: Season 4 Recap & Awards
It’s the season 4 awards, aka, the episode where we try not to give every award to Cas! 😇 Join August, Elayna and Noah as they debate the funniest angel in the garrison, marvel at how representation for women somehow got WORSE, and how Sam is truly the most tragic figure of the season.
*An Important Note: We used a term in this episode ("gypped") and one of our listeners has graciously called us in to recognize the harm that this term causes towards Romani people. We're learning and will be avoiding that term going forward. If you'd like to learn more with us, you can look at this article: https://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/12/30/242429836/why-being-gypped-hurts-the-roma-more-than-it-hurts-you. Thank you to this listener for calling us in - it is really appreciated as we continue to learn. Check out our giveaway on our Twitter & Discord servers! Open internationally! Enter here: https://twitter.com/queering_things/status/1629290117260099585?s=46&t=L2IeufYVQlrODEhDEj_ftA This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18, and this episode in particular delves into conversations about addiction & withdrawal. Listen with discretion. Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com! For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow the Pod Squad's new series on The Winchesters, Wayward Parents, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com!

Ep 4.22 | Angels Want the Drama
All aboard the trauma train! Join August, Noah and Elayna as they wrap up season four with a banger of an episode that discusses Ruby’s big girl boss moment, how much it hurts to see Sammy go full dark side, and how Dean is a bisexual switch king who’s just here to break shit.
This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 22: Lucifer Rising, through the theme of Free Will.
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This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18, and this episode in particular delves into conversations about addiction & withdrawal. Listen with discretion.
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4.21 | When the Levity Breaks

Ep 4.20 | Say Hi, Jimmy Novak
This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 20: The Rapture, through the theme of Fate.
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Ep 4.19 | Screw the Narrative
New Winchester brother just dropped. 😅 August, Noah, and Elayna discuss the introduction of Adam Milligan, how much we love soft brotherly moments (even if they’re rare), and how John Winchester continues to be the absolute worst dad of the century.
This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 19: Jump the Shark, through the theme of Nurturing.
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Ep 4.18 | It's Him, Hi, Chuck's The Problem, It's Him
Have you heard the good news about Sam & Dean? 👀 Join Elayna, Noah, August, and returning guest Jessy, for a discussion on this season 4 fan favorite where it would seem the lore is coming from inside the episode. Catch our discussion about how Eric Kripke only knows 4 actors, how the Destiel moments this episode hit REAL DIFFERENT when you know the whole story, and how proud we are of our boys for casually defying the will of God like it's their day job.
This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 18: The Monster At the End of This Book, through the theme of Knowledge.
Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com! For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow the Pod Squad's new series on The Winchesters, Wayward Parents, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com!
Follow guest host Jessy over on her TikTok at https://www.tiktok.com/@.tired.gay!
This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion.
Fic Recommendation: The Prophet Must Die (spoilers up to Season 8, Ep. 20): https://archiveofourown.org/works/774604/chapters/1455218

Ep 4.17 | It’s A Canon Workplace AU
Yes, that is a Ken doll outfit they based Dean’s whole personality on. Join Sam, Noah and Elayna as they discus the infamous workplace AU, the weird feeling you get when the Winchester brothers get to exist without all their ✨ trauma ✨ and, and add more fuel to fire that is the running list of Reasons Dean is Queer AF™️.
This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 17: It’s a Terrible Life, through the theme of Grudges.
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Ep 4.16 | Choose Your Own Rebellion
It’s “depression on toast” this week as Noah, Elayna & August welcome back guest host Allie to talk about one of Dean’s hardest moments. We talk about mentor!Anna encouraging Cas to rebel, the virtues of both Swiftienatural & Psychnatural, and what makes Uriel the “funniest angel in the garrison”.
This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 16: On the Head of a Pin, through the theme of Cowardice.
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Ep 4.15 | Pamela Deserved Better
Another day, another instance of Sam & Dean disrupting the natural order, as they work a case where it seems the local reapers are all on vacation. Join hosts Noah and Sam while they discuss the brother’s different approaches to hunting (research vs street smarts!) and all the ways in which the writers did Pamela dirty.
This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 15: Death Takes a Holiday, through the theme of Foresight.
Content Warnings for this episode: Topics of discussion include death of a female character and briefly addressing ableist jokes.
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BONUS | Why Lamp? An Exploration of the Power of Fandom
With fandom, turns out it's just the same shit, different century. Join August for a special episode with guest host, artist, and scholar Valerie Gritsch where we discuss on the power of fandom! We'll dive into the origins of modern fan communities (thanks Star Trek), how fandom spaces have become sacred to the many who inhabit them, and what it's like as we try and ascend to an era with more inclusivity and the death of cringe.
SPOILER ALERT: This episode briefly discusses elements of the series finale of Supernatural.
CONTENT WARNING: Discussions on disability, mental health, and suicide.
EPISODE NOTE: This episode was recorded prior to August, our main host's, name change. Please pardon any in episode usage of their former name.
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Explore Val's work on her website, valeriegritsch.com!
For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow the Pod Squad's new series on The Winchesters, Wayward Parents, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com!
This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion.

Ep 4.14 | Dean’s Other OTHER Rebound
Dean discussing literary classics in a strip club? It’s more likely than you think! Join Noah, Abigail, Elayna, and friends/fellow podcasters Hannah and Beth (of the show Raising Perdition) for the infamous “siren episode”! We dig into how casually cool Sam is with the idea of his brother hooking up with a dude, the season four descent of the brother’s distrust of one another, and how Dean just 404 errors in the face of people flirting with him. This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 14: Sex and Violence, through the theme of Vices.
Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com!
Find links to Hannah and Beth’s podcast, Raising Perdition, and more, at linktr.ee/raisingperdition!
For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow the Pod Squad's new series on The Winchesters, Wayward Parents, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com!
This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion.

Ep 4.13 | I Guess That's Gym?
It's a sibling duo extravaganza this week, as hosts Abigail, Sam, and Noah are joined once again by Theo, for four former homeschoolers' hot takes on Sam and Dean's messed up public school education. This heavy SPN episode may try to disguise itself as Dean in a silly pair of gym shorts, but that doesn't stop us from having honest discussions about the impacts of bullying, how Dean feels more comfortable being neglected, and how educators who care can truly change a young person's (especially Sam Winchester's) life.
This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 13: After School Special, through the theme of Neglect.
Content warnings for this episode:
- CW: Discussions of parental neglect and childhood trauma
- CW: Discussion of an in episode inappropriate reference to minors
- CW: Mentions of fatphobia and the impacts of bullying
Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com!
For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow the Pod Squad's new series on The Winchesters, Wayward Parents, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com!
This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion.

Ep 4.12 | Dean’s Bear Dreams
Will Noah have the gift of prophecy with this week’s predications? Join him, Elayna, and Abigail as they find out! There’s a talk on tarot symbolism, how we love when witchy Sam enters the chat, and we discuss how Dean is DEFINITELY into Bears. 😅 This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 12: Criss Angel is a Douchebag, through the theme of Desire.
Content warnings for this episode:
- Brief discussion about suicidal ideation, particularly among older characters, and related discussion of ageism.
- Host disclosure of IRL family death and mourning.
- Brief references to explicit 18+ topics related to sex.
- Reference to hanging (in the context of our tarot discussion and episode events).
Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com!
For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow the Pod Squad's new series on The Winchesters, Wayward Parents, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com!
This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion.

Ep 4.11 | Family Trauma Layer Cake
It’s a sibling special this week as Abigail and Sam get together for a deep dive into this VERY layered episode and how it examines family trauma. Hear them talk about the canon’s blurring line between humans and monsters, and find out their exact opposite reactions to how they’d handle being stuck in a horror movie scenario.
This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 11: Family Remains, through the theme of Temptation.
Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com!
For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow the Pod Squad's new series on The Winchesters, Wayward Parents, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com!
This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion.

Ep 4.10 | Cas Called Dibs
Noah, Abigail and Elayna welcome back guest host Renny to talk about a favorite episode through a favorite theme. First we LOL as we talk about awkward Winchester car rides, Abigail's angelic gay awakening, and Noah being a Bobby/Pamela truther. Then we get serious for a discussion on the power of free will, and remind our listeners (the way Anna reminded Dean) that no one has to go through hard times alone.
This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 10: Heaven & Hell, through the theme of Faith.
Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com!
Learn more about Elayna's book (a queer YA fantasy novel in verse) at stillthestars.com!
For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow the Pod Squad's new series on The Winchesters, Wayward Parents, at waywardparentspodcast.tumblr.com!
This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion.

Ep 4.09 | A Consensual (Supernatural) Workplace Relationship
Is it Cas? Is *he* the drama? Join Abigail & Noah as they discuss the return of “Mystery Spot!Sam”, the parallels between how the brothers handle losing each other, and debate if crossroad demons should unionize. This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 9: I Know What You Did Last Summer, through the theme of Grace.
Learn more about Elayna's book (a queer YA fantasy novel in verse) at stillthestars.com!
Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com!
For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow the Pod Squad's new series on The Winchesters, Wayward Parents, at twitter.com/waywardparents!
This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion.

Ep 4.08 | Wishing the World Didn't Suck
Be careful what you wish for with this week’s episode. Join Noah, Sam, and Elayna for a chat about a town driven mad with jealous wishes, the relatability of a Teddy bear’s existential crisis, and to finally get some truth from Dean about his time in hell and what he can remember.
This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 8: Wishful Thinking, through the theme of Jealousy.
Read Abigail's Fic, "no win scenario" at archiveofourown.org/works/42301710/chapters/106220604
Read Elayna's Fic, "Clearest Blue" at archiveofourown.org/works/42291495/chapters/106192803
Buy Elayna's Queer YA Fantasy Book at stillthestars.com
Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com!
For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow the Pod Squad's new series on The Winchesters, Wayward Parents, at twitter.com/waywardparents!
This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion.

Ep 4.07 | How Cas Met His Brother-in-Law
Happy Halloween from the Queering Things team! Abigail, Noah, Sam, and Elayna are joined by beloved guest host KJ for a dive into this appropriately witchy episode. Come for the funny chat about our fave past Halloween costumes and stay for the squad basically writing out Sam's best man at Dean/Cas's wedding even though Sam and Cas met *checks notes* five minutes ago. Smamford strikes again and we add more evidence for Trans!Dean to the vault in this end of spooky month spectacular!
This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 7: It's The Great Pumpkin, Sam Winchester, through the theme of Loyalty.
Find KJ online at linktr.ee/SupernaturalOpinionsPodcast.
Read Abigail's Fic, "no win scenario" at archiveofourown.org/works/42301710/chapters/106220604.
Find us online at queeringthingspodcast.com!
For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow the Pod Squad's new series on The Winchesters, Wayward Parents, at twitter.com/waywardparents!
This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion.

Ep 4.06 | Funny, But Not Funny Haha
This week Abigail is joined by guest host Hayley for a discussion on Yellow Fever, an episode that is not *quite* as goofy as we recall. We talk about how Dean's real fear is emotional vulnerability, how Sam is super case focused while his brother spirals, and how Luther as a character is very much a symbol for how horribly humans lean into othering that which they don't understand.
This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 6: Yellow Fever, through the theme of Human Nature. CW for discussions of abuse, violence towards neurodivergent folks, and homophobia.
Find Hayley online on Twitter: @deanapologist_ (https://twitter.com/deanapologist_) and on TikTok: @deanapologist (https://www.tiktok.com/@deanapologist?_t=8Wl4GyCwTwM&_r=1)
Find us online at www.queeringthingspodcast.com! For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow Elayna & Abigail's new show about the upcoming CW series, The Winchesters—Wayward Parents!
This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion.

Ep 4.05 | The Case for Trans!Dean Continues
*shuffles notecards* For your consideration, we've got a bunch of new bits of evidence that lend themselves to the Trans!Dean theory! Join Elayna, Noah, and guest host Jenn while they discuss how much they love a good ol' genre-bending gimmick episode, and marvel at the sheer number of Psych actors that seem to appear on this show.
This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 5: Monster Movie, through the theme of Beauty.
Find us online at www.queeringthingspodcast.com!
For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow Elayna & Abigail's new show about the upcoming CW series, The Winchesters—Wayward Parents!
This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion.

Ep 4.04 | Water is Wet & Sam is a "Monster"
Another day, another instance of Sam Winchester fighting his inner demons AND the monster of the week. Noah, Sam and Abigail get into it for a discussion of what really defines a "monster"/how that definition has changed for the boys over the years, and get a little in their feels about Dean delivering one of the most devastating lines in the season.
This episode discusses Season 4, Episode 4: Metamorphosis, through the theme of Tolerance.
Content warning for discussion of sexual assault.
Find us online at www.queeringthingspodcast.com!
For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow Elayna & Abigail's new show about the upcoming CW series, The Winchesters—Wayward Parents!
This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion.

Ep 4.03 | John Winchester is Samuel Campbell Coded
What really happened "In the Beginning"? Join Abigail, Elayna & Noah as we travel on angel's wings back to 1973, where Dean meets a young John & Mary Winchester and manages to not butterfly-effect himself. Elayna dubs John and Mary's relationship "vanilla", Noah has questions about time travel mechanics, and Abigail is thrilled about the second Star Trek reference in as many episodes.
Enter to win our Season 3 follower prize on Twitter! Giveaway closes October 10, 2022.
Find us online at www.queeringthingspodcast.com!
For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow Elayna & Abigail's new show about The Winchesters—Wayward Parents!
This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion.

Ep 4.02 | Dean Is God's Blorbo
Join us for Season 4, Episode 2, Are You There God, It's Dean Winchester, through the theme of Grief.
Elayna & Abigail are joined by Jamie & Beth from Driver Picks the Podcast for a talk on how Dean is kinda God's favorite, who else we think should have haunted the Winchesters in this episode, and throughly discuss Beth's utter disgust at the state of American roadside public bathrooms.
Find us online at www.queeringthingspodcast.com!
Listen to Jamie & Beth's show, Driver Picks the Podcast, here!
For more SPN'verse podcasting, follow Elayna & Abigail's new show about the upcoming CW series, The Winchesters—Wayward Parents!
This show contains content and discussions that may be inappropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion.