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Matthew Hoh: Afghanistan and the End of an Unjust War + Teach Truth Days of Action
Matthew Hoh: Afghanistan and the End of an Unjust War + Teach Truth Days of Action
Refuse FascismAug 23, 2021
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Jeff Sharlet - The Undertow: Scenes from a Slow Civil War
Jeff Sharlet - The Undertow: Scenes from a Slow Civil War
Sam talks to Jeff Sharlet, author and journalist (The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power, C Street: The Fundamentalist Threat to American Democracy) and now his new book The Undertow: Scenes from a Slow Civil War. It's a must-read for understanding the moment we're in from someone who has closely followed the American fascist movement. Follow Jeff on Twitter at @JeffSharlet and Instagram: jeffsharlet.
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Mar 26, 202351:17

Your Questions Answered
Your Questions Answered
Coco Das (@Coco_Das) and Paul Street (@Streetwriter17) in conversation with Sam Goldman (@SamBGoldman) answer listener questions on fascism and recent events.
Find or organize a protest at Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights: Fascist Judges: Keep Your Hands Off Abortion Medication!
Mentioned in this episode:
Christian Fascist Matthew Kacsmaryk’s Coming Ruling and the Need to Abandon Liberal Surrender and Complicity by Paul Street
Trump Might Face Criminal Charges—But He’s Unlikely to Face Justice by Elie Mystal
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Mar 19, 202351:14

Katelyn Burns: The True Aims of the Anti-Trans Movement
Katelyn Burns: The True Aims of the Anti-Trans Movement
Sam talks with journalist Katelyn Burns about the fascist offensive against trans people. Follow her work here and on Twitter at @transscribe and listen to her podcast Cancel Me, Daddy.
Mentioned in the episode:
LGBTQ Institute in Germany Was Burned Down by Nazis
Anti-Gender Campaigns in Europe: Mobilizing against Equality
The New York Times's War on Trans Kids (If Books Could Kill)
Sign the petition!
Drop the Charges on the Tampa 4! Stop DeSantis' Attacks on Diversity! Rhea Law, Step Down!
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Mar 12, 202341:46

The Fascist State of Florida & Student Resistance
The Fascist State of Florida & Student Resistance
What's happening in Florida to education under fascist governor Ron DeSantis, and how are students responding and resisting? Featuring interviews with:
Rafael Kadaris, a correspondent on the Revolution Nothing Less Show. Articles and resources he mentions can be found at Revcom.us.
Ben and Stephanie are student organizers with Stand For Freedom Florida (on Instagram at @standforfreedomfl). Support their efforts: https://www.gofundme.com/f/protect-educational-freedoms-in-florida
Recommended reading:
For more on HB 999, read Michelle Goldberg’s recent piece for the NYT: Florida Could Start Looking a Lot Like Hungary
Take action:
Find a Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights International Women's Day Action
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Mar 05, 202301:09:26

Carrie Baker: Looming Decision That Could Ban Abortion Medication
Carrie Baker: Looming Decision That Could Ban Abortion Medication
Sam talks to Dr. Carrie Baker, Professor at Smith College and contributing editor of Ms. magazine about the lawsuit that could be decided in the coming days which would potentially eliminate access to medication induced abortions in the US. Follow her work at Ms. magazine here and follow her on Twitter at @CarrieNBaker.
Also see:
Fascist Judges: Keep Your Hands Off Abortion Medication! (RiseUp4AbortionRights.org)
Mentioned in the episode:
Episode 124: Talking Forced-Birth in Victorian Times and Now With Kate Manning
‘It’s a war’: the doctor who wants Americans to get abortion pills before it’s too late by Poppy Noor
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Feb 26, 202340:31

Foundation 451: Defying DeSantis' Book Bans
Foundation 451: Defying DeSantis' Book Bans
Sam interviews Adam Tritt, teacher and founder of Foundation 451, an organization formed in response to the bans on books in Florida schools. Find out more at their website foundation451.org and donate to support their free banned books campaign here.
Recommended reading:
Biden’s Abortion Aside by Jessica Valenti
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Feb 12, 202343:51

The Fascist "Freedom" Caucus
The Fascist "Freedom" Caucus
Sam talks with Werner Lange, retired educator and pastor, Chair of the Ohio Peace Council and author of Onward Christian Soldiers: the MAGA March toward a Fascist America about the historical and modern day fascist movement. Read his recent piece, "A Lesson for America 90 Years After Hitler's Ascension to Power" in Common Dreams where he writes, "the House Freedom Caucus is the functional equivalent of the NSDAP." Then, we re-share a clip from an interview with Andrea Chalupa from Season 1 in October 2020, due to its continuing relevance: Taking to the Streets Challenges the Dictator's Legitimacy.
Mentioned in the show regarding the fascist suppression campaign in Florida against African American AP History:
Open Letter In Defense of AP African American Studies
OAH Statement on AP African American Studies
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Feb 05, 202350:60

The Insurrectionist House of Representatives
The Insurrectionist House of Representatives
Back by popular demand! Sam talks with Dr. Thomas Zimmer, historian at Georgetown University and co-host of the podcast Is This Democracy? Follow him on Twitter at @tzimmer_history and subscribe to his substack at thomaszimmer.substack.com where you can read his latest commentary: "On the Murder of Tyre Nichols." They discuss just a handful of the latest attempts to shore up traditional hierarchies through aggressive fascist measures in a variety of arenas including the House of Representatives and state legislatures around the country, as well as how to understand the Republican Party today.
Mentioned in the show:
'You want to ban the books? I’m giving them away.' Activists protest Florida book-ban law
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Jan 29, 202346:41

On the 50th Anniversary of Roe
On the 50th Anniversary of Roe
Coco Das reads the statement from Rise Up for Abortion Rights on the 50th anniversary of Roe. Follow Coco on Twitter at @Coco_Das and connect with Rise Up for Abortion Rights on all platforms at riseup4abortionrights.org.
Then, Sam interviews Julie F. Kay, human rights lawyer for gender equality & religious freedom and architect of the Irish abortion lawsuit ABC v. Ireland, co-author with Kathryn Kolbert of Controlling Women: What We Must Do Now to Save Reproductive Freedom. Follow her on Twitter @Msjuliekay and visit her website www.juliefkay.com.
Also! check out Walter Masterson trolling anti-abortion protesters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oG7s2idrgQ
Links to reports/articles mentioned in the show:
Jessica Valenti: Abortion, Every Day
The Gender Equity Project Institute The State of Reproductive Health in The United States
Vice News: I Helped an 11-Year-Old Rape Victim and Hundreds of Other People Get Abortions After Roe
Sunsara Taylor: Forced Motherhood Is Female Enslavement; Make Roe's Reversal a Rallying Cry for a Real Revolution!
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Jan 22, 202357:55

The Continuing January 6 Coup
The Continuing January 6 Coup
Sam Goldman, Paul Street and Anthony DiMaggio discuss the continuing impact of the Trump coup attempt that seemed to culminate with the physical assault on the Capitol on January 6, 2021. The House special committee's report was released in the final days of 2022 with the recommendation that the now Republican-controlled Congress bar Trump from ever holding office again, as well as be criminally prosecuted. Neither outcome is likely as the events of the first week back in session show the GOP is still completely in thrall to the cult of Trump, whether via supposed "moderates" like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Kevin McCarthy or "extremists" like Matt Gaetz and Lauren Boebert.
Anthony DiMaggio is an Associate Professor of political science at Lehigh University and author of Rising Fascism in America: It Can Happen Here. Read his writings at Counterpunch and Salon. Paul Street is on editorial board of RefuseFascism.org and the author of This Happened Here: Amerikaners, Neoliberals, and the Trumping of America. Read his latest writings on Substack including "Keep Down the Fascism Detectors: Elise Stefanik, the New York Times, and the Appeasement by Deletion of Fascism."
Recommended reading:
The shutdown caucus really wins: The House power grab was always bigger than Kevin McCarthy
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Jan 08, 202356:14

2022: The Year in Review
2022: The Year in Review
We take a look back at 2022 with the help of previous guests including:
Sussan Tahmasebi
Jasmin Ramsey
Marcela García
Susana Chiarotti
Sunsara Taylor
Andrew Seidel
Coco Das
Bradley Onishi
Samuel Perry
Andrew Seidel
Thomas Zimmer
Wajahat Ali
Paul Street
Rachael Wachstein
Danielle Moodie
Henry Giroux
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Dec 31, 202201:10:44

Drag Vs. Fascism
Drag Vs. Fascism
Sam Goldman talks to Gwen Frisbie-Fulton, organizer and writer, about the recent attack on power stations in Moore County, North Carolina, and how the attacks on drag story hours are being used by the larger fascist movement. Read Was Moore County attack another antI-LGTBQ act? in the Greensboro News & Record and follow Gwen at @gwen_fulton. Then, we talk to drag performers about the joys and benefits of drag story hours, not just for the LGBTQ community but for everyone who wants to bring a little more empathy, creativity and fun into the world.
Learn more about youth activist and performer Desmond Napoles at desmondisamazing.com and learn more about drag story hours and get involved with Paradise's group, Drag Story Hour at dshnyc.org.
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Dec 26, 202256:37

Proud Boys and a New Era of American Fascism
Proud Boys and a New Era of American Fascism
Sam interviews Andy Campbell, author of the new book We Are Proud Boys: How a Right-Wing Street Gang Ushered in a New Era of American Extremism. Follow Andy on Twitter at @AndyBCampbell.
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Dec 18, 202251:56

The Flag and the Cross and the Little Blue Bird
The Flag and the Cross and the Little Blue Bird
Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Phillip Gorski, professor of sociology at Yale, about the contours of the White Christian Nationalist movement. His latest book is The Flag and the Cross written with Dr. Samuel Perry. Follow Dr. Gorski on Twitter at @GorskiPhilip.
Then, Sam talks to Micah Lee, Director of Information Security at The Intercept, about the Nazification of Twitter under Elon Musk. You can follow Micah on Twitter @MicahfLee but he's posting more often on Mastodon these days: https://infosec.exchange/@micahflee and his website is micahflee.com.
Also mentioned on this episode:
The US supreme court is poised to strike another blow against gay rights by Moira Donegan
Why is Texas banning abortions? Because this state is run by Christian fundamentalist fascist lunatics by Coco Das
The Court Case That Could Legalize the Next Coup by Elie Mystal
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Dec 12, 202201:03:58

Christian Dominionism and Fascist Momentum
Christian Dominionism and Fascist Momentum
Sam talks to Dr. Sarah Riccardi-Swartz, assistant professor of religion and anthropology at Northeastern University about Christian Dominionism, rising antisemitism and the fascist movement's continued momentum. Follow her on Twitter at @riccardiswartz and visit her site at riccardiswartz.com
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Dec 05, 202247:07

The Aftermath of the Midterms
The Aftermath of the Midterms
Sam Goldman chats with fellow RefuseFascism.org co-editors Coco Das and Paul Street about the aftermath of the 2022 midterms, Donald Trump declaring his 2024 candidacy and associated happenings this past week. Follow Coco on Twitter at @Coco_Das and subscribe to Paul on Substack at paulstreet.substack.com. Read Paul's book This Happened Here: Amerikaners, Neoliberals, and the Trumping of America .
Thursday, Dec. 1 From RiseUp4AbortionRights.org: Manifest in green and protest nationwide at courthouses around the country on Thursday December 1, the one-year anniversary of when the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in the case that overturned abortion rights. Through speeches, dramatic bloody die-ins, and in other ways, the protests should make clear that we cannot rely on the courts and have to rely on ourselves to rise up to win legal abortion on demand and without apology everywhere. Find or host a protest here: https://riseup4abortionrights.org/nov-25-dec-1/
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Nov 20, 202249:36

Bradley Onishi: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism--and What Comes Next
Bradley Onishi: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism--and What Comes Next
Sam Goldman interviews Bradley Onishi about his new book (available January 2023) Preparing for War: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism--and What Comes Next
Brad Onishi is a former insider in the Christian nationalist movement who spent seven years as a minister in Southern California. Listen to his podcast Straight White American Jesus, follow him on Twitter at @BradleyOnishi and sign up for updates at swaj.substack.com.
Thursday, Dec. 1
From RiseUp4AbortionRights.org: Manifest in green and protest nationwide at courthouses around the country on Thursday December 1, the one-year anniversary of when the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in the case that overturned abortion rights. Through speeches, dramatic bloody die-ins, and in other ways, the protests should make clear that we cannot rely on the courts and have to rely on ourselves to rise up to win legal abortion on demand and without apology everywhere. Find or host a protest here: https://riseup4abortionrights.org/nov-25-dec-1/
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Nov 13, 202256:30

Sarah Posner: The GOP's Christian Supremacy Problem
Sarah Posner: The GOP's Christian Supremacy Problem
Sam Goldman interviews writer Sarah Posner about antisemitism, Christian Zionism and increasing anti-trans hysteria in the radicalizing Republican Party. Read Sarah's recent piece The GOP’s Christian Supremacy Problem and follow her at sarahposner.com or on Twitter @sarahposner or mastodon.social/@sarahposner.
Also mentioned in this episode: The US Christian Right groups actively involved in voter suppression by Annika Brockschmidt and Doug Mastriano’s Prophets In Pennsylvania by Christopher Matthias
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Nov 06, 202237:39

Teddy Wilson: Fascist Violence Accelerated
Teddy Wilson: Fascist Violence Accelerated
Sam Goldman interviews writer Teddy Wilson about the latest developments from the fascist movement in the US, including the violent wing of the anti-abortion movement, the January 6th commission, and the wave of antisemitism coming from prominent powers and from their ground soldiers. Teddy chronicles the US fascist movement in detail at hist Substack: radicalreports.substack.com. Follow Teddy on Twitter at @reportbywilson.
Also mentioned in this episode:
Research by Carol Mason into the anti-abortion movement and links to antisemitism (check out Killing for Life: The Apocalyptic Narrative of Pro-life Politics).
Overturning Roe Has Meant At Least 10,000 Fewer Legal Abortions
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Oct 31, 202254:53

Andrew Seidel: American Crusades & the Supreme Court
Andrew Seidel: American Crusades & the Supreme Court
Sam Goldman interviews Andrew Seidel, a constitutional and civil rights attorney and the author of two books: The Founding Myth: Why Christian Nationalism Is Un-American and American Crusade: How the Supreme Court is Weaponizing Religious Freedom. He's also co-editor of an academic text, Law and Religion: Cases and Materials 5th Edition, with Prof. Leslie Griffin of UNLV law school. Andrew is a Senior Correspondent at Religion Dispatches, a prolific author of opeds and scholarly articles. He organized and contributed to the groundbreaking report “Christian Nationalismat the January 6, 2021, Insurrection,” which was published by the Baptist Joint Committee and FFRF and which aroused congressional interest. He’s appeared on Fox News to debate Bill O’Reilly, MSNBC, and hundreds of other media outlets. Andrew is the VP of Strategic Communications at Americans United for Separation of Church and State, the largest organization fighting for that founding principle. Andrew has a BS in neuroscience and several law degrees, each with honors and awards. Before dedicating his life and law degree to keeping state and church separate, Andrew was a Grand Canyon tour guide and an accomplished nature photographer. He's on all social media platforms including TikTok: @andrewlseidel and Twitter: @AndrewLSeidel.
You can get a signed copy of American Crusade by visiting bit.ly/signedac and The Founding Myth here: https://bit.ly/TFMyth; the unsigned version of American Crusade is available here: https://amzn.to/3OesBPs
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Oct 23, 202253:04

Women, Life, Freedom
Women, Life, Freedom
The courageous movement in Iran is reaching an incredibly inspiring new stage that needs to be understood, learned from and supported by people who care about justice everywhere.
To learn more about the situation, Sam Goldman interviews two experts on the topic: Jasmin Ramsey, Deputy Director of the Center for Human Rights in Iran (follow @ICHRI and @jasminramsey; website iranhumanrights.org) and Sussan Tahmasebi, Executive Director, FEMENA (follow @FemenaNet and @sussantweets; website femena.net).
Plus: commentary from Coco Das on latest from the Jan 6 hearings and the commission's vote to subpoena Trump.
*The translation of the Iranian protest anthem "Baraye" by Shervin Hajipour was done and sung by Rana Mansour. Find more from her at ranamusic.com.
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Oct 16, 202254:37

"Trump of the Tropics" + 100 Days Post-Roe
"Trump of the Tropics" + 100 Days Post-Roe
Sam Goldman interviews historian of fascism, Federico Finchelstein, about the upcoming run-off election in Brazil for incumbent fascist Bolsonaro vs. former president Lula da Silva. Follow Dr. Finchelstein on Twitter @FinchelsteinF.
Then, reflections on the 100 days since the federal right to abortion was overturned in the US and what it will take to restore this fundamental right - a Blue Wave or a Green Wave - from Sam and a student organizer with Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights. Register for the upcoming October 15 webinar with Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights here: https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_LtviN1YQRDyOKCVLvifG_Q
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Oct 10, 202234:59

It Can, It Has, It Is Happening Here
It Can, It Has, It Is Happening Here
Sam talks to Paul Street and Anthony DiMaggio about Trump’s open embrace of the fascist Qanon movement, the kidnapping of Venezuelan migrants by Florida governor Desantis, media and politicians’ normalization of fascism and much more. Paul Street is an historian and member of the Refuse Fascism editorial board, author of This Happened Here: Amerikaners, Neoliberals, and the Trumping of America; follow Paul on Twitter @Streetwriter17 and at paulstreet.org. Anthony DiMaggio is a political scientist and author of Rising Fascism in America: It Can Happen Here. Follow his work on Counterpunch. Note, this conversation was recorded before the fascist Meloni victory in Italy.
Salute to the courageous protesters fighting the theocracy in Iran this week! Must read: Iran's Feminist Revolution--Women, Life, Liberty by Mona Eltahawy.
Wednesday, September 28 is International Safe Abortion Day
In solidarity with women around the world, protest and publicly manifest: #Green4Abortion On September 28
Find out more at https://riseup4abortionrights.org/september-28/
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Sep 26, 202257:02

If One Of Us Is Not Free, None Of Us Are
If One Of Us Is Not Free, None Of Us Are
Sunsara Taylor, co-host of The RNL (Revolution Nothing Less) Show and one of the initiators of RiseUp4AbortionRights.org discusses the new post-Roe federal legislation introduced by Lindsey Graham which would ban abortions after 15 weeks, overriding all protections for abortion rights at the state level. Follow Sunsara on Twitter at @SunsaraTaylor.
Then, Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Heather Costello, an emergency room and hospice doctor in Chicago about the already terrible impact of the Dobbs decision, and expectations for the near and long-term future if we don’t rise up to stop the anti-abortion onslaught.
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Sep 18, 202201:02:16

Teddy Wilson on the Metastasizing Fascist Base
Teddy Wilson on the Metastasizing Fascist Base
Sam interviews independent journalist and researcher Teddy Wilson about the base for fascism in the US and how they are responding to recent events. Subscribe to Teddy’s regularly updated Substack at radicalreports.substack.com and follow him on Twitter at @reportbywilson.
Mentioned in this episode: The Oath Keepers Data Leak: Unmasking Extremism in Public Life from the ADL
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Sep 11, 202247:20

The GOP: Fascist, Nothing Semi- About It
The GOP: Fascist, Nothing Semi- About It
On the occasion of our 125th episode, RefuseFascism.org editorial board members Coco Das and Paul Street share recollections on the mission and analysis of the organization. Follow Coco Das on Twitter @Coco_Das. Read the statement Coco co-authored which was published in The New York Times as a full page advertisement days after the 2020 electoral defeat of Donald Trump here. Get Paul’s latest book, This Happened Here: Amerikaners, Neoliberals and the Trumping of America.
Plus: Sam Goldman shares commentary on what some are calling Joe Biden’s “1860 speech” and his recent use of the phrase “semi-fascist” to describe the Republican Party. Then, she interviews freelance journalist Laura Jedeed about the recent history of that fascist organization through the lens of CPAC (the Conservative Political Action Conference). Read Laura’s recent article on CPAC for The New Republic here and follow her on Twitter @LauraJedeed and on Substack: laurajedeed.substack.com.
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Sep 04, 202248:03

Talking Forced-Birth in Victorian Times and Now With Kate Manning
Talking Forced-Birth in Victorian Times and Now With Kate Manning
Sam Goldman interviews writer Kate Manning, author of My Notorious Life, a novel about a midwife and abortion provider from the 1800’s based on a true story. Read Manning’s op ed for The Washington Post, “Antiabortion laws are forced-birth laws. Here’s what that looks like.”
Follow Manning's work which includes other eloquent and pointed opinion pieces about women, abortion, and more, plus links to get her books, including her forthcoming novel Gilded Mountain at her website katemanningauthor.com.
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Aug 28, 202257:25

Leah Litman: SCOTUS Recap and Forecast
Leah Litman: SCOTUS Recap and Forecast
Sam Goldman interviews Leah Litman, Assistant Professor of Law and University of Michigan and cohost of Strict Scrutiny podcast, discussing the past, present and future of the Trump-appointee dominated SCOTUS. Follow Leah Litman on Twitter at @leahlitman.
Plus: Merle Hoffman, one of the co-founders of Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights speaking at the Society for Ethical Culture. Follow @RiseUp4Abortion and @MerleHoffman.
Read the dissent to Dobbs v. Jackson here: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22067295-dobbs-dissent
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Aug 22, 202245:03

The Nazification of American Education
The Nazification of American Education
Sam interviews Dr. Henry Giroux, renowned educator and author of recently published pieces The Nazification of American Education and The US Is Descending Into a Crisis of Overt Fascism. There’s Still a Way Out.
Also see Florida students return to schools reshaped by Gov. DeSantis' anti-'woke' education agenda.
Follow Dr. Giroux on Twitter at @HenryGiroux and visit his website at henryagiroux.com.
The FBI raid of Trump's Mar-a-Lago is increasing pressure on Trump. In this situation, there is continuing danger and positive potential for the people to weaken a fascist leader and movement. But left on its own, without a mass showing of opposition to what Trump stands for, it will not be enough.
Trump and his GOP have been incredibly resilient, finding opportunities to turn their "defeats" into opportunities for further hardening of a fascist core. Look at how his supporters are responding to the raid. Every setback he has weathered has led to more vengeance and violence. This is a key lesson of January 6th.
There is no lack of evidence against Trump. But the problem w/ Trump & Co has never been finding the stuff. There is if anything a glut of evidence. That he still leads his movement despite all this evidence is part of why he is so effective and celebrated.
Right now, the corrupt ex-president of S. Korea is serving a 20-year sentence. In 2016 and 2017, it took 20 successive Saturday night rallies bringing 16 million into the streets to get her impeached. She was arrested shortly after being driven out of office.
Trump and his GOP are planning Coup 2.0. If we allow that to go down, they will be all out for revenge and the stakes for humanity will be exponentially higher.
Fascism can & is happening here & it can't simply be voted away. Relying on official channels, on voting alone, on the Democrats to remedy this instead of taking to the streets in a sustained way has led to inaction & conciliation with fascism.
The question remains, what will the decent people do? Will the future be fascist, or will we act?
In the Name of Humanity, We Refuse to Accept a Fascist America!
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Aug 14, 202259:46

Danielle Moodie: How to Stand Up to Fascist Bullies
Danielle Moodie: How to Stand Up to Fascist Bullies
Sam interviews writer and pundit Danielle Moodie about the current state of fascism in the United States and how to actually stand up to the fascist bullies (hint: it’s not what the Democrats are doing right now). Listen to Danielle every weekday on her podcast Woke AF and every week on Democracy-ish (with Wajahat Ali). Follow her on Twitter at @deetwocents on Instagram @deetwocents at and on TikTok at @daniellemoodie_.
Note: Abortion remains legal for now in West Virginia as the House and Senate failed to agree on a bill.
Support the abortion rights protesters arrested in LA for staging a dramatic civil disobedience art statement at the LACMA museum here.
*No show next week - the next episode will be released 8/14/22.
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Jul 31, 202243:41

Highland Park Mass Shooter Crimo Wasn’t A Lone Wolf
Highland Park Mass Shooter Crimo Wasn’t A Lone Wolf
Sam speaks to the Rachael Wachstein (first interviewed on Episode #35 in December 2020 - find her on Facebook) again, this time to discuss Robert Crimo, Jr., the mass shooter who murdered people at the Highland Park July 4 parade this year, 2022. Wachstein witnessed not only this horrific event but recognized Crimo as one of the pro-Trump "Stop the Steal" fascists she had been counter-protesting in her community over the past couple of years. She makes a forceful case for his fascist motivations and discusses why it's so hard for people to take these violent fascists seriously as an organized movement, rather than "lone wolves."
Background info and debate on the motivations of the Highland Park shooter at The Forward.
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Jul 24, 202236:50

Post-Roe Reality Check & January 6 Hearing Update
Post-Roe Reality Check & January 6 Hearing Update
It's just a few weeks into the hellscape that is a post-Roe United States... Sam and Mark chat about just a few of the stories that have come out in recent weeks illustrating the growing catastrophe. Donate to support the Indiana doctor currently under fire from fascist forces for providing abortion care to a 10 year old rape victim who traveled from Ohio here.
Recommended Reading:
They Will Never Believe Us by Jessica Valenti
Dr. Caitlin Bernard Was Meant to Write This With Me Before She Was Attacked for Doing Her Job by Tracey A. Wilkinson
Plus: some of the latest revelations on Trump's fascist coup attempt, which stretched far before the Jan 6th attack on the Capitol, see a few of our previous episodes to look deeper into the lead up:
#36 Eric Boehlert: Trump plots martial law from White House — the press shrugs (Jan 3, 2021)
#35 If it could happen there, it could happen here (Dec 27, 2020)
#33 "Fight for Trump" = Fight for Fascism (Dec 13, 2020)
Also: RiseUp4AbortionRights.org has been subjected to a series of scurrilous Cointelpro-style attacks from both fascist and progressive publications and organizations. See:
To Those Who Would Rather Lie, Slander, and Attack Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights Than Unite All Who Can Be United Against This Fascist Assault
We Need Honest Debate, Not Unprincipled Attacks: A Further Response to the Attacks On Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights by Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights co-initiators Merle Hoffman, Lori Sokol, Sunsara Taylor
Also find responses from Sunsara Taylor and the Revcoms:
In Reply to the Reactionary Hit Piece in the Daily Beast: Why I DO Follow Bob Avakian... and Why YOU Should Too by Sunsara Taylor
A Reply to the “Statement Against RiseUp4AbortionRights”:In Defense of the Emancipation of Humanity and the Leadership We Need to Get There (The Revcoms)
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Jul 17, 202242:49

Christian Theocracy, the Crusades, & Modern-Day America
Christian Theocracy, the Crusades, & Modern-Day America
Sam interviews Dr. Thomas Lecaque about apocalyptic Christianity, the GOP in 2022 and the medieval roots of support for secular fascists like Trump from Christian nationalists. Read his recent articles Patriot Front and the Next Stage of the Culture War, "Jesus, guns, babies": Religious violence is now at the core of the Republican Party, and this piece from 2019 in The Washington Post: The apocalyptic myth that helps explain evangelical support for Trump.
Follow Dr. Lecaque on Twitter @tlecaque and on LinkedIn.
Also mentioned in this episode:
Gospel According to the Klan by Kelly Baker
Check out the latest statement at riseup4abortionrights.org: The Overturning of Abortion Rights Is ILLEGITIMATE! This Decision Must Not Stand. Into the Streets to Demand: The Federal Government Must Restore NATIONWIDE LEGAL ABORTION NOW!
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Jul 10, 202249:44

Overturning Roe: A Watershed Moment for U.S. Fascism
Overturning Roe: A Watershed Moment for U.S. Fascism
Sam and Coco Das discuss Coco's new article for The Independent: Roe has been overturned and women’s bodies are no longer their own in America. Here’s what to do now. Follow Coco at @Coco_Das.
Over the past couple weeks SCOTUS has issued a series of rulings that flag that they are no longer concerned with the appearance of legitimacy: rights no longer need to be read to people arrested by the police, states cannot issue laws restricting who can conceal guns, and the EPA cannot prevent power plants from filling the air with pollution. They also agreed to hear a case that would enable state legislatures to conduct elections according to whatever procedures they set... and of course overturned the constitutional right to abortion, setting in motion the chaos we're seeing across the country as clinics shut down and patients, including a 10 year old rape victim from Ohio, have had to travel great distances to obtain access to abortion.
Where do we go from here? Check out riseup4abortionrights.org which is calling for continued mobilization in the street to demand the full reinstatement of the right to legal abortion at a national level. Read the response to unprincipled and divisive attacks. Read Coco's speech from the protest in Austin, Texas here: We can turn this around, not as the people we are now but as the people we become through this struggle.
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Jul 04, 202239:54

SCOTUS, The Big Lie, Fascism: All Illegitimate
SCOTUS, The Big Lie, Fascism: All Illegitimate
On our first post-Roe episode, we share some of the voices from the streets over the last couple days outside the Supreme Court demanding the federal government restore the fundamental right to abortion across the country NOW, including Sunsara Taylor (@sunsarataylor), Paxton Smith (@paxtonsmith) and youth organizers.
Then, writer and pundit Wajahat Ali talks to Sam about the January 6 hearings which have unearthed in great detail (though not exhaustive, as Ginni Thomas's key role continues to be obscured) the Trump regime's attempted coup plot. Read his latest piece for The Daily Beast: No, Our Institutions Didn’t Hold After Jan. 6—Just Look at the GOP and follow him on Twitter at @WajahatAli.
How are we accepting a ruling that reverses a fundamental right for more than half the population, issued by an illegitimate court full of fascists appointed by a (perhaps soon-to-be-indicted) criminal?
Answer: we're not. Check out the latest at RiseUp4AbortionRights.org.
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Jun 26, 202254:29

The Looming Abortion Rights Disaster & Even Worse To Come From The Supreme Court
The Looming Abortion Rights Disaster & Even Worse To Come From The Supreme Court
Sam Goldman takes a break from protesting outside the Supreme Court to interview writer Jill Filipovic about the looming abortion rights disaster. Follow Jill’s work at jill.substack.com and follow her on Twitter at @JillFilipovic.
Then, Sunsara Taylor interviews lawyer and host of the Amicus podcast Dahlia Lithwick about the legal rationale behind overturning the right to abortion and the many other implications to individual freedom in the US (this interview originally appeared on The Revolution Nothing Less show).
Tuesday, June 21 at 9am, RiseUp4AbortionRights.org is calling for people to Come to the Supreme Court in DC and Stay; STOP the Supreme Court from Taking Away Abortion Rights! Find out more and get involved at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Jun 19, 202258:15

Federico Finchelstein: "White Replacement Theory" & Fascism
Federico Finchelstein: "White Replacement Theory" & Fascism
Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Federico Finchelstein on the recent Op Ed he wrote with Dr. Jason Stanley in the LA Times: White replacement theory is fascism’s new name. Follow @FinchelsteinF on Twitter and check out his newest book, Fascist Mythologies: The History and Politics of Unreason in Borges, Freud, and Schmitt.
Recommended reading:
The first January 6 hearing served up surprising revelations — that all point to Trump (Ben Jacobs in Vox)
Jan. 6 Committee Details Proud Boys, Oath Keepers Involvement in Capitol Insurrection (SPLC)
Elegy for a lost America: Will the Jan. 6 committee really change anything? (Jeff Sharlet in Salon)
Buffalo: A Brutal Killer… A Heartless White-Supremacist System (Revcom.us)
Let Us Prey (Rafia Zakaria in The Baffler)
This coming week, RiseUp4AbortionRights.org is calling for people to Come to the Supreme Court in DC and Stay; STOP the Supreme Court from Taking Away Abortion Rights! Find out more and get involved at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Jun 12, 202244:40

Confronting & Rejecting a Culture of Fascist Violence
Confronting & Rejecting a Culture of Fascist Violence
In the aftermath of the horrific massacre of schoolchildren in Uvalde, Texas, which was close on the heels of a white supremacist killing spree in Buffalo, NY, we’re re-sharing the extremely relevant interview Sam Goldman did with Dr. Carol Anderson in November 2021. Dr. Anderson is the Charles Howard Candler Professor and Chair of African American Studies at Emory University and the author of White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Racial Divide, One Person, No Vote: How Voter Suppression is Destroying Our Democracy, and her latest book The Second: Race and Guns in a Fatally Unequal America which was the focus of this conversation. Follow Dr. Anderson at professorcarolanderson.org and @ProfCAnderson.
Then, we share a few clips from the protests this past week demanding abortion rights. Featured voices include Mark Ruffalo, Kayli Carter, Sunsara Taylor and some of the students who walked out of school to shut down the Brooklyn Bridge in NYC. Find out more about next steps to mobilize for abortion rights at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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May 29, 202201:00:51

Acting Now to Defend Roe + Abortion Rights
Acting Now to Defend Roe + Abortion Rights
Coco Das @Coco_Das and Sam Goldman @SamBGoldman have been busy rallying people in the streets with RiseUp4AbortionRights.org over the past couple weeks - we share some of those speeches today. Join in nationwide protests this Thursday May 26 to raise your voice and raise hell as SCOTUS is on the verge of overturning Roe and allowing many abortion bans to go through. Find or organize a protest here.
Recommended reading:
CPAC Hungary: Global right doubles down on "replacement" theory: "This is what tyrants do"
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May 22, 202230:34

Thousands Rise Up to Say: Overturn Roe? Hell No!
Thousands Rise Up to Say: Overturn Roe? Hell No!
More than 400 cities on Saturday May 14 saw protests demanding the Supreme Court not overturn Roe. We share some of the voices from a protest in NYC including Merle Hoffman, Founder/CEO Choices Women's Medical Center and an initiator of RiseUp4AbortionRights.org, Rosita Romero, Executive Director, Dominican Women's Development Center, Elizabeth Holtzman, former U.S. Representative and District Attorney of Brooklyn, and Sunsara Taylor, Co-Host of the RNL (Revolution Nothing Less) Show on Youtube & a key initiator of RiseUp4AbortionRights.org.
From RiseUp4AbortionRights.org:
Ok, so we protested May 14 and then stay home right? WRONG! STAY IN THE STREETS!!!!!
Thursday May 19 WALK OUT
Wear & creatively display Green
Thursday May 26 SHUT IT DOWN!
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May 16, 202232:33

Susana Chiarotti: Overturning Roe, A Brutal Lesson for Feminists on Resistance
Susana Chiarotti: Overturning Roe, A Brutal Lesson for Feminists on Resistance
A draft version of the Supreme Court decision overturning Roe on the most retrograde basis has been leaked, authored by Samuel Alito. Coco Das (@Coco_Das) interviews Susana Chiarotti, Latin American Liaison for the Sisterhood is Global Institute about the global implications of this ruling and the immediate challenge facing the abortion rights movement in the US. Read her recent article for the Miami Herald: While Roe v. Wade is under attack in the U.S., Latin American women are winning abortion rights. Then, we share some of the voices from the street protests and student walkouts that happened this week as emergency responses to the pending SCOTUS decision.
Find out more about the national week of action to defend the right to abortion in the US May 8 - 14 at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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May 08, 202237:48

Marcela García: Lessons from the Green Wave Abortion Rights Victories in Latin America
Marcela García: Lessons from the Green Wave Abortion Rights Victories in Latin America
Coco Das interviews Boston Globe columnist Marcela García about her recent piece about the “Green Wave” movements in Latin America that have decriminalized abortion in Argentina, Colombia and Mexico. Read Latin America moves forward in legalizing abortion as the US rolls back access. What gives? Follow Marcela on Twitter at @marcela_elisa.
Listen to the solidarity statement from Ana Cristina Gonzalez Vélez from the movement in Colombia to Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights. Find out more about the national week of action to defend the right to abortion in the US May 8 - 14 at riseup4abortionrights.org.
Note: mentioned in this episode are the anti-abortion bans which are referred to as "heartbeat bills" however there is no beating heart in an embryo at 6 weeks, only pulsating embryonic cardiac cells.
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May 01, 202230:01

January 6th Was a Dress Rehearsal
January 6th Was a Dress Rehearsal
We share voices from activists with Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights who traveled to Kentucky, the scene of the latest state-level showdown against abortion rights.
Then: Trump is shoring up support in local legislatures in preparation for his 2024 run for the presidency while revelations of the continuing domination of the GOP continue (including Kevin McCarthy’s lies and craven subservience to Trump in the face of recordings of himself acknowledging Trump’s role in leading the coup attempt). We share some highlights from interviews over the past year with guests discussing the January 6th coup attempt and implications for the future. Excerpted interviews with Elie Honig, Dr. Jo-Marie Burt, Dr. Anthony DiMaggio, Dahlia Lithwick, Walter Masterson, and Dr. Samuel Perry.
Also mentioned in this episode: Student Walkouts Against "Don't Say Gay" Law + Stopping Business as Usual
Find out more about the national week of action to defend the right to abortion May 18 - 15 at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Apr 25, 202234:23

Fearless Activists Mobilize on the Precipice of Fascist Anti-Abortion Victory
Fearless Activists Mobilize on the Precipice of Fascist Anti-Abortion Victory
Sunsara Taylor interviews young activists from around the country who helped organize #RiseUp4AbortionRights protests this past weekend about what fuels their determination to stand up for the right to abortion and how in fact, it's not too late to turn the tide.
Find out more about the national week of action May 18 - 15 at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Apr 17, 202246:30

Trans Resistance in Texas + Righteous Outrage in the Streets to Keep Abortion Legal
Trans Resistance in Texas + Righteous Outrage in the Streets to Keep Abortion Legal
Sam Goldman interviews Juniper Porter, an activist with Trans Resistance of Texas (TROT) - an organization that recently held a die-in on the steps of the Texas State Capitol in support of trans rights (see press coverage). Follow @TRoT on Twitter and find more actions against the tsunami of anti-trans laws in states across the country at tearitup.org. One correction from Juniper on the number of anti-trans bills in Texas last session: the actual figures include 30 anti-LGBT bills, 13 of which are specifically directed at trans people.
Then, we share some of the voices of abortion rights protesters who took to the streets yesterday in cities around the country, as we approach the tipping point this spring against the right to safe, legal abortion in this country. If the US Supreme Court overturns or guts Roe v. Wade, 26 states are certain or likely to ban abortion.
Only the people can stop this - join the organizing summit on Zoom Saturday, April 16. Find out more about the national week of action May 18 - 15 at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Apr 11, 202233:29

Black Women in the Crosshairs of Christian Fascist Assault on Abortion
Black Women in the Crosshairs of Christian Fascist Assault on Abortion
Sunsara Taylor (The RNL Show, We Only Want the World on WPFW and WBAI) interviews feminist, novelist, playwright and director Sikivu Hutchinson about the abortion crisis and more. Follow her work at sikivuhutchinson.com and on Twitter: @sikivuhutch.
If the US Supreme Court overturns or guts Roe v. Wade, 26 states are certain or likely to ban abortion.
April 8: Wear #Green4Abortion
April 9: March & Rally for Abortion Rights
Find out where to be: riseup4abortionrights.org
Also mentioned in this episode: take action to support Justyna Wydrzyńska, for helping a woman in an abusive relationship obtain abortion pills in Poland: jakjustyna.aborcyjnydreamteam.pl/en/
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Apr 03, 202224:01

Paul Street: False Narratives on the War in Ukraine
Paul Street: False Narratives on the War in Ukraine
We share the presentation from a recent webinar held with historian and writer Paul Street, member of the Refuse Fascism editorial board. Paul's most recent book is This Happened Here: Amerikaners, Neoliberals, and the Trumping of America. Follow his work at paulstreet.org and @Streetwriter17. Read his recent article On Putin, the Ukraine War, the United States and Fascism on Counterpunch.
If the US Supreme Court overturns or guts Roe v. Wade, 26 states are certain or likely to ban abortion.
April 8: Wear #Green4Abortion
April 9: March & Rally for Abortion Rights
Find out more: riseup4abortionrights.org
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Mar 28, 202236:28

Annika Brockschmidt: America's Holy Warriors + What a "No Fly Zone" Really Means
Annika Brockschmidt: America's Holy Warriors + What a "No Fly Zone" Really Means
Sam Goldman interviews Annika Brockschmidt, German freelance journalist and podcast host, author of America's Holy Warriors: How the Religious Rights Endangers Democracy.
Follow Annika on Twitter at @ardenthistorian. If you speak German you will want to check out her podcast (co-hosted with recent Refuse Fascism podcast guest Thomas Zimmer), Kreuz und Flagge (Cross and Flag). Read her recent piece on Religion Dispatches: Don’t Laugh at Rick Scott’s ‘Plan to Rescue America’ or Be Fooled by Reports of a ‘Backlash’ — His Only Mistake Was Revealing the Truth of Today’s GOP
Then, we share a clip of a conversation with Andy Zee and Paul Street, members of the Refuse Fascism editorial board, from The RNL Show, discussing Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine, and what a US-enforced "no fly zone" actually means. Read Paul's recent article: Let Us Not Talk Falsely Now: Reflections on War, Peace, and Ukraine.
Recommended Reading on Abortion Rights Emergency:
Florida’s Abortion Ban Will Obliterate Access in the South by Anna Eskamani
Idaho’s New Anti-Abortion Law Offers Cash Bounties to Rapists’ Family Members by Dahlia Lithwick and Mark Joseph Stern
The Pseudoscience That Could Kill Women by Sarah Jones
Missouri’s Proposed Anti-Abortion Law Has an Eerie Resemblance to the Fugitive Slave Act by Pema Levy
RiseUp4AbortionRights.org is calling for more emergency mobilizations; find out more at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Mar 20, 202250:07

Student Walkouts Against "Don't Say Gay" Law + Stopping Business as Usual
Student Walkouts Against "Don't Say Gay" Law + Stopping Business as Usual
Sam Goldman interviews student organizers of recent walk-outs in Florida against the new law excluding LGBTQ people from primary school curricula. Then, voices from the International Women's Day march for abortion on demand and without apology including: Michelle Xai, Merle Hoffman, Lori Sokol, Kathy Najimy, Dr. Bruce Price, Beila, Betty, Araceli Herrera, Sunsara Taylor, Rev. Jacqui Lewis, and V (formerly Eve Ensler).
Translated remarks from Araceli Herrera: "I was raped. I suffered for years. I was made fun of by people, by my neighbors, by my family. But the worst people were the ones that made the laws that prohibits abortions. And today I’ve stopped crying. Today is the day we begin to take to the streets and scream loudly. I have the right to choose! I have the right to have an abortion! Because it is my life, because it is my body! Because we have the right to decide! It’s my choice! I won’t allow them to take it away. Women, raise your voice! Get into the streets! Starting today until the day of the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court decision that will affect our lives. Let’s get out and shout: we will not allow you to take away our right!"
RiseUp4AbortionRights.org is calling for meetings next weekend to organize for more emergency mobilizations; find out more at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Mar 13, 202246:52

War in Ukraine + Defending the Right to Abortion
War in Ukraine + Defending the Right to Abortion
Sam Goldman interviews Marc Eliot Stein with World Beyond War about Russia's attack on Ukraine and what comes next. Follow Marc on Twitter at @asheresque and listen to the World Beyond War podcast here: worldbeyondwar.org/podcast.
Recommended reading: A Hellish War in Ukraine: Where the Hell Did This Come From?
Then, we share voices from the abortion rights speakout Feb. 27th in front of St. Patrick’s Cathedral, New York City hosted by RiseUp4AbortionRights.org, calling on people to take to the streets for International Women's Day on March 8. Find a protest near you.
Right now: help organize for mobilizations this spring to demand abortion rights at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Mar 07, 202248:52

Sunsara Taylor: Forced Motherhood = Female Enslavement
Sunsara Taylor: Forced Motherhood = Female Enslavement
Sam Goldman shares thoughts and commentary on the latest fascist developments domestic and international. Then we share Sunsara Taylor's remarks from an event Feb. 16 at Revolution Books in Harlem on the abortion rights emergency in the US and a powerful call to action now - before Roe is overturned.
Original video of Sunsara Taylor's remarks
Recommended reading on the crisis with Russia and Ukraine:
The antisemitism animating Putin’s claim to ‘denazify’ Ukraine
by Jason Stanley
Shameless American Chauvinism: “Anti-Authoritarianism” as a “Cover” For Supporting U.S. Imperialism
by Bob Avakian
Right now: help organize for mobilizations this spring to demand abortion rights at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Feb 27, 202248:00

The #FluTruxKlan + Voices from Ottawa
The #FluTruxKlan + Voices from Ottawa
Coco Das interviews Steven Mesaros on the fascist trucker convoys that have been harassing and terrorizing residents of Ottawa for several weeks. Mesaros is a Canadian political science Ph.D student studying emerging far-right authoritarian movements. Follow him on Twitter at @RestoreTheReal. Then, Coco talks to some of the activists who mobilized in Ottawa against the convoys after the authorities refused to act to stop them, successfully shutting them down and even persuading some of them to go home. Follow these Canadian organizers: Andrea Harden (@andiharden), Sam Hersh (@SamHersh01) and David Chernushenko (@chernushenko).
Recommended reading on the fascist convoys:
For many inside the Freedom Convoy, faith fuels the resistance
The So-Called “Truckers’ Protest”:A Major Initiative by Canadian—and International—Fascist Forces
The whole world should be worried by the ‘siege of Ottawa’. This is about much more than a few anti-vaxx truckers
Tweet Coco Das at @Coco_Das. Right now: help organize for mobilizations this spring to demand abortion rights at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Feb 20, 202255:26

Anne Nelson: Media, Money & the Secret Hub of the Radical Right
Anne Nelson: Media, Money & the Secret Hub of the Radical Right
Sam Goldman interviews Anne Nelson, author of Shadow Network: Media, Money, and the Secret Hub of the Radical Right (get your paperback copy, updated after January 6th) and Research Scholar at Columbia University. Find more of her work at anne-nelson.com and follow her on Twitter at @anelsona. Her work investigating the Council for National Policy (CNP), which includes many well-known and not-so-well-known actors is essential for understanding the fascist movement in the US. Also see: "Religious Right Fuels National Attack On School Boards, Exploiting Parental Frustration Over Covid Restraints" in the Washington Spectator.
The conversation was rich with agreement as well as some disagreements, and we always appreciate the opportunity to dig into these substantive issues and the paths forward to solve the continuing crisis. Also mentioned in this episode: Inside Patriot Front: The Masked White Supremacists On A Nationwide Hate Crime Spree.
Right now: help organize for mobilizations this spring to demand abortion rights at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Feb 13, 202244:19

Tony Wolf: Art and Pushing Back Against Fascism
Tony Wolf: Art and Pushing Back Against Fascism
Sam Goldman interviews Tony Wolf, actor and artist (view his diverse resume at tonywolfactor.com) about fascism, culture, and cultivating a variety of forms of pushback against the fascists. His comic essay “Where is Evil?” can be seen at brokenfrontier.com where he writes, “I sought to share my personal reflections as I grappled with how to process the acts of the Trump administration and the GOP / conservative supporters who have backed this utterly vile man.” Follow him on Twitter at @tonywolfness.
Right now: help organize for mobilizations this spring to demand abortion rights at riseup4abortionrights.org.
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Feb 06, 202246:11

The Evidence of Rising Neo-Fascism
The Evidence of Rising Neo-Fascism
Coco Das interviews Dr. Anthony DiMaggio, author of the new book, Rising Fascism in America (order from Routledge here). Dr. DiMaggio is Associate Professor of Political Science at Lehigh University. His research emphasizes the interactions between politics, social movements, the news media, and the American right. He is the author of 9 books, including Political Power in America (2019), Rebellion in America (Routledge 2020) and Unequal America (Routledge 2021). He has been an active participant in social movement politics for the last two decades, and is an avid social commentator. Follow his writings at Counterpunch.org. Dr. DiMaggio previously appeared on episode 27: Our System is Not Equipped to Deal With a Bad Actor Like Trump.
Plus voices from the launch of Rise Up 4 Abortion Rights on the 49th anniversary of Roe V. Wade January 2: Sunsara Taylor, Lori Sokol, Merle Hoffman and Katea Stitt.
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Jan 30, 202251:44

Kathryn Joyce: The Ideology Behind a "Benevolent" US Theocracy
Kathryn Joyce: The Ideology Behind a "Benevolent" US Theocracy
Refuse Fascism helped kick off Rise Up For Abortion Rights (riseup4abortionrights.org) yesterday in Washington, D.C. (Common Dreams coverage). Get involved in this initiative and help plan protests around the country starting immediately and growing into this spring - register for the Zoom organizing conference January 30, 2 - 4pm Eastern here.
This week, Sam interviews author and investigative reporter Kathryn Joyce on the power of ideology in the fascist movement; especially how and why Hungary is a model for the GOP. Follow Joyce on Twitter at @kathrynajoyce and find more of her work at kathrynjoyce.com. Read her recent piece for Salon: "Parental rights" started on the Christian fringe — now it's the GOP's winning issue and for The New Republic: The New Right’s Grim, Increasingly Popular Fantasies of an International Nationalism.
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Jan 23, 202244:24

Rise Up for Abortion Rights!
Rise Up for Abortion Rights!
Mark interviews Sam Goldman about the new project aiming to mobilize and actually defeat the assault on abortion rights, riseup4abortionrights.org.
Read and sign the new statement to Rise Up for Abortion Rights here. Share it on social media. Join us at noon on Jan 22, at the Supreme Court in DC, and going forward nationwide — fighting to WIN!
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Jan 16, 202238:22

Samuel Perry: Christian Nationalist Violence Post January 6
Samuel Perry: Christian Nationalist Violence Post January 6
Sam Goldman talks to Samuel Perry, associate professor of sociology at the University of Oklahoma, about his research into the American Christian Nationalist movement. Follow him on Twitter at @socofthesacred. Read his two recent articles in Time magazine: January 6th May Have Been Only the First Wave of Christian Nationalist Violence and How Trump Stole Christmas—And Why Evangelicals Rally to Their Savior. Order his new book The Flag and the Cross: White Christian Nationalism and the Threat to American Democracy.
From the Refuse Fascism Statement on First Anniversary of January 6 Fascist Coup Attempt:
The January 6 coup attempt demonstrated that fascism is not just the worst of a pendulum swing. It is an all-out assault on the rule of law aiming to strip democratic rights from whole groups of people they see as sub-human. Trump and his fascist movement have torn up the norms and thrown out the rule book, yet the outrage and hopes of people on the side of justice keep getting diverted into the very channels that are being eviscerated, and away from the kind of deep, mass, society-wide struggle that is needed.
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Jan 09, 202255:03

The GOP: Entrenching White Christian Domination
The GOP: Entrenching White Christian Domination
Coco Das (@Coco_Das) interviews historian Thomas Zimmer (@tzimmer_history) about “polarization” in American politics and the shared agenda of white Christian domination across a spectrum of right-wing political forces.
At this time last year, January 6th was on the horizon. Trump’s big lie was already taking hold among millions of people. And for months, Refuse Fascism had been sounding the alarm and organizing ongoing, sustained, non-violent protests to change the trajectory of Trump’s base marauding through the streets while the decent people hid in their “safe spaces.” This is a situation that still needs to be transformed. As long as the fascist threat looms, it is up to all of us to understand and act to stop fascism from consolidating in this country, and Refuse Fascism will continue to bring you these conversations and our analysis of things as they develop.
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Jan 03, 202254:04

2021: The Refuse Fascism Year in Review
2021: The Refuse Fascism Year in Review
Refuse Fascism exposes, analyzes, and stands against the very real danger and threat of fascism coming to power in this country. Through this show Refuse Fascism has engaged, dialogued, and debated with a broad array of writers, scholars, legal experts, and people from different walks of life on the roots, nature, and trajectory of fascism in this country. Through our engagement and networking with people and social movements, we are forging understanding and relationships aimed at preventing the consolidation of fascism. Here's a sampling of the impressive range of voices that have participated in this show over the past year:
Andy Zee
Rosanna Arquette
Rev. William Lamar, IV
Cornel West
Ruth Ben-Ghiat
Federico Finchelstein
Rosie O’Donnell
Jason Stanley
Anthea Butler
Sarah Posner
Jared Yates Sexton
Bandy Lee
Paul Street
Dahlia Lithwick
Eric Boehlert
Walden Bello
Brynn Tannehill
Wajahat Ali
David Atkins
Tony Norman
Carol Anderson
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Dec 26, 202101:30:05

Male Supremacy: Common Ground for the Fascists
Male Supremacy: Common Ground for the Fascists
Two interviews this week about the fascist assault on the right to abortion and the re-assertion of violent misogyny that it is a part of: Soraya Chemaly, author of Rage Becomes Her (@schemaly, sorayachemaly.com) and Chelsea Ebin, co-founder and fellow at the Institute for Research on Male Supremacism (@crrebin, malesupremacism.org).
Plus: commentary about the latest developments from the January 6 commission.
Referenced in this episode:
Washington Post Opinion: 3 retired generals: The military must prepare now for a 2024 insurrection by Paul D. Eaton, Antonio M. Taguba and Steven M. Anderson
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Dec 19, 202101:11:27

No Capitulation on Abortion Rights!
No Capitulation on Abortion Rights!
"Highlights" from this week in fascism and future coup attempts (recommended reading: Trump’s Next Coup Has Already Begun) including the “options for January 6” PowerPoint uncovered by the January 6 commission and Matt Gaetz on Steve Bannon's podcast this past Thursday. Gaetz said an "army of patriots" should get ready now to "fight" for the US - Bannon said "shock troops" divided into teams could take over some 4,000 government positions. This is three things: a threat, a strategy, and also an exposure of what happened the first time around.
Then, Sunsara Taylor (The RNL Show) on the moves to overturn Roe v. Wade and a conversation with an Ann Arbor based activist who traveled to the Michigan State Capitol on Dec 1 to shut down the State Legislature and sound the alarm on the emergency for abortion rights. Read Jessica Prozinski's piece Michigan Activists Shut Down Legislature to Read Statement on Abortion.
Much is made of the fact that the majority of Americans support Roe v Wade. But it’s meaningless to simply state that without backing it up. The history of fascism has shown us that dominating the public square and the public discourse – whether or not they have majority opinion on their side, goes a long way in determining whether fascism prevails or not.
A majority of obedient Americans are no obstacle to these Christian fascists. But even a portion of that majority of people in the streets – waging a sustained, non-violent struggle to say hell no, you’re not slamming women back to the days of back alley abortions and forced pregnancy, this makes it known to the whole world who the majority is and what they’re willing to put on the line.
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Dec 12, 202151:35

The State of Fascism Denial + The Fight for Abortion Rights
The State of Fascism Denial + The Fight for Abortion Rights
Coco Das (@Coco_Das) speaks to an activist who traveled to Washington DC this week to protest for abortion rights as the Supreme Court heard opening arguments in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization - the case which is primed to overturn Roe v. Wade and enable abortion bans in more than half the states in the US. Mentioned in this conversation: Will Supreme Court conservatives overturn Roe? Their casual contempt for women is not a good sign by Amanda Marcotte on Salon.
Then, Coco talks to Paul Street about the state of fascism and the state of fascism denial as we near the close of 2021. Paul Street is the author of ten books including his latest, This Happened Here: Neoliberals, Amerikaners, and the Trumping of America, which is about to be published. Follow his work at paulstreet.org.
We really can’t overstate the importance of having a presence in the streets – in the public square – over the next few months. Much is made of the 8/10 Americans who support Roe v Wade. But it’s meaningless to simply state that without backing it up. The history of fascism has shown us that dominating the public square and the public discourse – whether or not they have majority opinion on their side, goes a long way in determining whether fascism prevails or not. 8/10 obedient Americans are no obstacle to these Christian fascists. But 8/10 people in the streets – even 5/10 waging a sustained, non-violent struggle to say hell no, you’re not slamming women back to the days of back alley abortions and forced pregnancy, this makes it known to the whole world who the majority is and what they’re willing to put on the line.
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Dec 05, 202153:10

Carol Anderson: White Supremacy & the Second Amendment
Carol Anderson: White Supremacy & the Second Amendment
Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Carol Anderson, the Charles Howard Candler Professor and Chair of African American Studies at Emory University and the author of White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Racial Divide, One Person, No Vote: How Voter Suppression is Destroying Our Democracy, and her latest book The Second: Race and Guns in a Fatally Unequal America which was the focus of this conversation. Follow Dr. Anderson at professorcarolanderson.org and @ProfCAnderson.
Topics covered in this episode: the shameful Rittenhouse acquittal, the complicity of local police in the lynching of Ahmaud Arbery, and the defeat of the federal charges against the Unite the Right rally organizers… where does this all come from and how does this relate to a fascist offensive that involves a whole fascist movement that attempted a violent coup on January 6 to overturn an election? How does it relate to the GOP which has since purged itself of anyone disagrees, and the deepened and hardened belief of millions in their fascist base that this violence was righteous and may be necessary in the future? How does all this fit together? Where is all this going? Where does it come from? And where do we go from here?
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On Wednesday December 1, the Supreme Court will hear Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, where the state of Mississippi had specifically asked the Court to overrule Roe v. Wade.
What needs to be heard outside SCOTUS & nationwide: Abortion on Demand & Without Apology! In the Name of Humanity We Refuse To Accept a Fascist America! The future of abortion access hangs in the balance! For more background on this case, what is at stake, and it’s connection the whole fascist onslaught go back and check out two episodes from earlier this fall: Episode 82 When Is It Time to Break the Law? and Episode 78 on the Abortion Rights Emergency.
Wednesday Dec 1 Abortion Rights Actions (see StrikeforChoice.org for more):
Chicago: Rally at Federal Plaza, 5pm to 6:30pm
Seattle: Rally at West Lake Ave N and Denny Way, 12 noon
D.C.: Rally with the Center for Reproductive Rights outside SCOTUS at 8am
Rally with the NYC Revolution Club outside SCOTUS at 11am
Rally with Women’s March at Columbus Circle at 1pm then marching over to SCOTUS
Visit RefuseFascism.org to get signs, banners, and flyers to bring into these actions. Donate $15 this Giving Tuesday and we’ll send you 100 Abortion on Demand Without Apology stickers.
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Nov 28, 202151:57

Educational Gag Orders + Fascist Verdict in Kenosha
Educational Gag Orders + Fascist Verdict in Kenosha
Coco Das interviews Jonathan Friedman, PEN America, about their new report titled "Educational Gag Orders" about the onslaught of legislation restricting public education in the US about race, gender and American history (pen.org/report/educational-gag-orders). Friedman is the director of free expression and education at PEN America, where he oversees advocacy, analysis, and outreach to educational communities and academic institutions. Follow Friedman at @jzfriedman and PEN at @PENAmerica.
Refuse Fascism Statement on the Acquittal of Kyle Rittenhouse: We Need a Beautiful Rising to Stop Rising Fascism – No Fascist Vigilantes in Our Streets!
Audio included from interviews with Justin Blake and Bishop Tavis Grant of the Rainbow Push Coalition was excerpted from NBC Chicago. Also mentioned in this episode: The Fight Against the White Supremacist Whitewash and Fascist Suppression of Historical Truth by Rafael Kadaris.
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Nov 21, 202144:41

A Beautiful Rising Or Rising Fascism? The Rittenhouse Trial
A Beautiful Rising Or Rising Fascism? The Rittenhouse Trial
Sam Goldman and Coco Das discuss the Kyle Rittenhouse trial in the proper context of the fascist movement he is a part of. Recommended reading: Coco’s recent article The Rittenhouse Trial and Two Sides in Contention: A Beautiful Rising or Rising Fascism and Reflections on Kenosha by Paul Street. Follow Coco Das on Twitter at @Coco_Das and Paul at @Streetwriter17
We’re continuing to pay special attention to the three trials with tremendous stakes:
In Charlottesville, Virginia: The federal civil trial of 24 white supremacist groups and individuals who came to Charlottesville in August 2017 and unleashed fascist violence that led to the murder of Heather Heyer.
In Brunswick, Georgia: the case against Gregory McMichael, Travis McMichael, and William Bryan who are on trial for hunting down and murdering Ahmaud Arbery, an unarmed 25-year-old Black man who was out on a jog.
And in Kenosha, Wisconsin: The criminal murder trial for Kyle Rittenhouse who traveled with an AR-15 to a Black Lives Matter protest in Kenosha where he shot and killed two protesters and wounded another.
All three concentrate the fascist mobs and threats of violence that are being unleashed to build the fascist movement and consolidate power & it reflects the ways in which there is an assault on the rule of law in this country and the most vicious overt white supremacy that threads it all together.
ALSO: Penn America released a report this week exposing what they are calling educational gag orders that outline how lawmakers in nearly half the country this year have tried to muzzle educators in regards to topics that include racism, sexism, and American history. As detailed in the report from January to September, a total of 54 bills concerning K-12 schools, higher education institutions and state agencies were introduced, the report says. Eleven of those bills have become laws in nine states, including Texas, Tennessee and Oklahoma. Read more here: pen.org/report/educational-gag-orders
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After the discussion with Coco Das, Sam interviews Vara Ramakrishnan with Strike for Choice on their plans to take action on Dec 1 and how you can join. Dec 1 is the day the Supreme Court will hear Dobbs vs Whole Womens Health, the case which poses an imminent threat to abortion rights and the possible wholesale gutting of Roe v Wade. You can take action wherever you are to refuse to go along with the evisceration of this essential right with the hashtag #StrikeForChoice. Find out more at www.strikeforchoice.org
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Nov 14, 202154:20

Elie Honig: The January 6th Insurrection Isn’t Over
Elie Honig: The January 6th Insurrection Isn’t Over
Legal analyst and former federal and state prosecutor Elie Honig discusses what we know about the January 6th insurrection and any chances for real accountability (hint: the DOJ/Merrick Garland would have to take action and there is zero indication that they are going to do so). In addition to watching him on CNN, you can follow on Twitter @eliehonig, read his book Hatchet Man: How Bill Barr Broke the Prosecutor's Code and Corrupted the Justice Department and listen to his podcast Up Against the Mob.
Mentioned in this episode
Andy Zee in Conversation with Paul Street on The Revolution Nothing Less Show: Two Separate Nations: Developments in the State of Fascism and How That Is Shaping the Political Situation
Gregg Gonsalves: COVID, Public Health & U.S. Mythology
Fascist Mobs: 1850 to Today
Wajahat Ali: The Death March of White Supremacy
Holocaust Survivor: It Could Happen Here
Meanwhile
After the Virginia election, everyone who’s not a fascist seems to be playing the blame game over electoral strategy. But fascism’s advance runs deeper. As this week's elections in VA show, Republicans don't have to cheat to win. The danger is real that Republican legislatures in states like Arizona, Georgia, Texas erect enough barriers to the ballot and destroy enough democratic norms their party simply cannot lose a close race.
Freespeechforthepeople.org is urging Attorney General Merrick Garland to resign from his post after nine months of inaction to hold Trump and his allies accountable for inciting the January 6th insurrection and other federal crimes they may have committed. It’s good that people are refusing to accept this accommodation to fascism. That said, it’s time for people to recognize that it isn’t just one or another individual doing this - but that ‘democratic’ norms, institutions, and the Democratic Party can’t be relied on to handle this threat. As revolutionary leader Bob Avakian has aptly stated, “The Democrats are committed to 'playing by the rules' and 'relying on the norms' of 'democratic' capitalist dictatorship, while the Republicans are moving to tear up those norms and rule through an open, undisguised capitalist dictatorship.”
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Nov 07, 202141:05

Gregg Gonsalves: COVID, Public Health & U.S. Mythology
Gregg Gonsalves: COVID, Public Health & U.S. Mythology
Epidemiologist Gregg Gonsalves, discusses his recent piece for The Nation America as a “Shining City on a Hill”—and Other Myths to Die By with Sam Goldman. Follow Gregg on Twitter at @gregggonsalves.
More recommended listening on the politics of the pandemic: COVID: A Case Study with Life & Death Stakes: Science, Epistemology, Conspiracy & Fascism.
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Oct 31, 202141:41

When Is It Time To Break The Law?
When Is It Time To Break The Law?
Valerie Elverton Dixon, Ph.D., discusses her recent essay When It Is Time to Break the Law with Sam Goldman, along with the abortion rights emergency and the strategy and tactics that will meet the current crisis. Follow Dr. Dixon's writings at justpeacetheory.com.
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Oct 24, 202146:36

Classroom Censorship in Texas
Classroom Censorship in Texas
Coco Das (@coco_das) interviews Ana Ramón (@ana_ramon89), Director of Advocacy for the Intercultural Development Research Association (IDRA) about the new legislation that takes aim at anti-racist and truthful teaching of social studies and other subjects for students in Texas. Follow IDRA @IDRAedu and Texas Legislative Education Equity Coalition (TLEEC) at @txtleec.
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Oct 18, 202146:09

No Laughing Matte
No Laughing Matte