
No Fluff MSP Marketing
By Taher Hamid
This podcast is structured to be listened to starting at episode one if possible.

No Fluff MSP MarketingNov 27, 2023

Never Autopost Blogs on Your MSP Website
There's no SEO value in autoposting blogs to your website. Depending on what service you use, it can also confuse search engines making it harder for you to rank the custom content your prospects might have found.
You do not get penalized for posting duplicate content on your website, but it does have some negative effects we cover.
Short tip today but this one is so important it deserves its own episode!

Direct Mail for MSPs
For years I avoided direct mail. My budget was tiny and I never thought it would provide an ROI. Who cares about postcards?
After I sent out two campaigns in one year and they both led to leads... I started to rethink to power of direct mail.
We're now huge advocates of adding this into the marketing mix and are personally running a 14 month campaign to prospects in our local market.
In this episode, Steven and I review effective content and strategies to use to get the most out of mailers!
If you've been thinking about adding direct mail to your MSP marketing, check out msp-camp.com!

Owning Your Brand with Mike from Tekie Geeks
I got an email from Mike a few weeks and instantly fell in love with his brand.
They have gone all in on the super hero theme and it's incredible.
They didn't do it half-way, they went ALL IN!
Highly recommend giving this one a listen. We discuss differentiators, owning your brand, and the highest return marketing they've seen at their MSP!

A Conversation With Will Slappey from IT Voice
Will has been on an acquisition crusade over the last 4 years and is now the head of a 120+ employee MSP called IT Voice.
What originally started as a conversation about how he built his LinkedIn "personal brand" morphed into an engaging and interesting conversation around growth, leadership, marketing and his content process.
Highly recommend checking this one out and adding Will on LinkedIn. He understands content and he's quite the impressive dude!

Client Retention and Satisfaction with Marnie Stockman
I was at TechCon Unplugged last month (an incredible event BTW). I've seen Marnie on LinkedIn and always loved her content.
She got on stage at that event and started presenting and I just couldn't help but think "Dang... she's so cool."
She summed up effective Account Management and dropped absolute GOLD for about 45 minutes.
I reached out to her right away to try and get her on the podcast.
In this episode, she provides more detail on some of the points in that presentation, teaches me how to properly recruit for another Account Manager, and explains why sometimes client gifts are good... and sometimes they're bad!
I really enjoyed this conversation and hope you do too!

The MSP Marketing Budget Conversation
We need to have a marketing budget intervention.
If you don't have a solid process in place to expand your marketing budget as it creates a return, you probably won't hit the goals you're striving for.
Unfortunately, it's the classic chicken and egg dilemma. You can't get a return without an investment, and you don't want to invest without a return.
In this episode, we discuss expectations of marketing, ROI, and a process to reasonably expand your marketing budget as your return from marketing grows.
Every listeners that is currently investing in marketing or planning to should listen to this episode.

Get the Flywheel Started at your MSP
I was introduced to the Flywheel concept in undergrad. The President of the tiny association I was part of spoke about it like it was a law, an undeniable truth.
I witnessed the flywheel for the first time in that tiny association that went from a few people to one of the largest associations at that school.
Understanding this concept and embracing it will set you up for success on your marketing and sales journey. Trust me.

Expanding "Word of Mouth" for your MSP
Referrals are incredible. They are the warmest leads and oftentimes ideal clients.
However, all referrals are not the same.
Client referrals can rarely be attributed to marketing. You're keeping your clients happy and they are rewarding you.
Referrals from friends, partners, and others in the community can almost be solely attributed to marketing....
That might sound crazy, but tune in and we'll share exactly why that's the case!
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Local SEO for MSPs
You have to be found when someone is searching for what you do. Sounds obvious but most MSPs do not put enough effort here.
In this episode, we break down some actionable advice to be found in your area and surrounding areas.
"All roads lead to the website" has been my go to for many years. It looks great, it converts well, it tags them so we can remarket to them... Good things happen when we get more buyers to our website.
THAT is why this episode is so important.
At this point, a lot of listeners are locked out of our Ranger/Leader memberships. We launched Scout Plus specifically for people locked out that still want excellent content. Check it out at: msp-camp.com
Also, tools discussed in this episode:
1. Rankmath (one of our favorite on page SEO tools)
2. SEMRUSH - This tool is awesome and helps us identify what keywords we should be going after

MSP Account Management Discussion with Brian Doyle at VCIO Toolbox
Your current client base is your hottest market. Account Management is one of the most important marketing and sales tools you have at your disposal.
With the right process, technology, and people, Account Management will help you retain customers, make them happy to buy more services from you, and send you more business through referrals.
If you haven't heard our original Account Management episode with the Account Manager at Alltek Services, please check that out as well!

FTC Safeguards Marketing Opportunity for MSPs
Hugo Cabello is a partner of Alltek Services and a good friend. His deep understanding of the FTC Safeguards paired with his marketing and sales background made him a perfect fit for this conversation.
The FTC Safeguards are a good marketing opportunity. Sure, it has some HIPAA vibes, but we're already seeing dealerships and Financial firms caring about this legislation and investing accordingly.
If you need help with this, feel free to reach out to Hugo directly at: hugo@easeguard.com

Learning to Love Stock Photos
We have a love hate relationship with stock photos. In this episode, Steven discussed why stock photos are usually a hinderance and how you can make them awesome again!

Protect Your Time If You Want To Grow Your MSP
A simple but true episode today. We'll discuss the importance of delegation and time management. As well as provide actionable examples of how this has changed our business and career!

Ensuring Success with a Marketing Coordinator at your MSP
In this episode, we review what to look for in a marketing coordinator, KPIs, and how to set them up for success at your MSP!
If you're going through the process of hiring a marketing coordinator, check out our free guide on hiring a marketing coordinator at: https://msp-camp.com/free-guides/

A Conversation with Two MSP Sales Guys
There was a great discussion on the MSP Camp Facebook page about hiring the right sales person and ensuring their success.
It's not an easy thing to do. That's a fact.
It's hard finding someone that will actually be successful in the role. On this episode, we review our early failures and what we believed help us find success in this space!
Curtis and I have been friends since day one in our new roles. Without his assistance over the years, I don't think I would have succeeded.

It's a Marathon not a Sprint with George from BVOIP
George has a big personality. He also is a self taught marketer that has grown his companies significantly.
In this episode, he sheds light into how we got started with MSP, some of his unusual but effective marketing strategies, and some great tips to help MSPs get more out of their marketing.
I hope you enjoy this conversation and I hope it helps in your own journey to grow your business!

MSP Camp Update for 2023
We can't thank you enough for listening to the podcast!
I hope you would give us a few minutes to review what we've accomplished so far at MSP Camp and our roadmap for the rest of the year :)
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Growth Mindset - Be Obsessed With Growing Your MSP
There's a lot to learn when it comes to marketing your MSP. It can seem overwhelming. Every MSP wants to grow. How am I different?
That all comes down to your mindset. A growth mindset turns threats into opportunities and gives you the extra motivation to get things done that you know will help your MSP grow overtime.
Save time by using our campaigns to grow your MSP with the right mindset: https://msp-camp.com/pricing/

MSP Website Best Practices - Part 2
Steven's first solo podcast!
In this episode, Steve outlines additional recommendations to transform your website from a boring set of static pages, to a lead machine.
Check it out and give Steven some love if you liked it :)

Server 2012 EOL Episode
In this episode, we discuss upcoming Server 2012 End-of-Life with a returning guest, Jeanne DeWitt and her partner David Hood. They are both really good friends of mine and a wealth of knowledge.
This deadline is coming up quickly and is a great opportunity to get our clients in a much better spot, as well as increase our MRR as MSPs.
We discuss preparation, communication to clients and prospects, and strategies to make this transition easier. Check it out!
In addition, Cloud Services for MSPs just posted their Server 2012 EOL campaign on their site for free. Go sign up for their free academy and use this content to sell more: https://www.cloudservicesformsps.com/

Value Based Pricing for MSPs with Ben Smith
Ben Smith is the founder of ClubIT which is an Australia based MSP. He's had some tremendous results from his value based pricing approach with his clients.
This phrase is spoke about a lot in our industry so it's great to hear from an MSP that successfully implemented this approach.
He provides specific examples and the process he took to increased his revenue significantly within his current client base.
Really enjoyed this conversation with Ben! I hope you find it helpful too.

MSP Sales Process with Brian at Feel Good MSP
There's a lot of bad advice when it comes to selling in the MSP industry. I've never done the hard sale or scare tactics BS that are often recommended by sales vendors in the MSP space and we've scaled very fast without it.
I've been on the search for a Sales equivalent to my marketing style and I think Brian is that guy.
His approach to sales lines up very well with how I conduct my own sales process and he provides solid advice throughout the podcast.
If you want to feel good about your sales process and close more of the deals that you do get as you start marketing more, give this episode a listen!
If you want to learn more about MSP Camp and how we provide the campaigns and content MSPs need to scale, visit: msp-camp.com

MSP Mergers and Acquisitions with Hartland Ross from The Host Broker
The M&A market for MSPs is hot. Whether you're looking to buy or sell, there is ample opportunity. However, it can be a very confusing proposition.
Hartland really knows his stuff on this topic. I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation and learned a lot.
If this is something you have been thinking about, give this episode a listen. It'll be worth your time!
If you want to learn more about MSP Camp and how we provide the campaigns and content MSPs need to scale, visit: msp-camp.com

Social Media Marketing for MSPs
Every MSP seems do to social media. They're posting often, they're staying consistent, they're trying to build their audience..... but their content sucks!
Social media is not a place to sell your services. It's a place to engage clients, the community, and your prospects. You don't do that with a bunch of boring stock photos or blogs to other websites, yet that's how the VAST majority of most MSPs social media strategy.
In this episode, Maddie and Taher take a deep dive into all things social media marketing.
You don't want to miss this one!
If you want to learn more about MSP Camp and how we provide the campaigns and content MSPs need to scale, visit: msp-camp.com

Packaging and Pricing MSP Services with Nigel Moore
If you've never heard of Nigel Moore or The Tech Tribe, you're missing out. Nigel grew an MSP before successfully exiting and starting The Tech Tribe. The Tech Tribe now has 4,000+ active members and is an incredible resource for MSPs around the globe.
I've always looked up to Nigel and what he's built and many key pieces of MSP Camp were built with influence from The Tech Tribe.
Nigel wrote the book on packaging and pricing MSP services. It's an incredible and short read that provides a comprehensive answer to the questions I get often around packaging and pricing.
In this episode, we dive deep into topics such as structured packages, termed agreements, gross margins, and recommendations for MSPs at multiple maturity levels.
He also shares some incredible marketing feedback on the last portion of the show, so stick around!
If you want to learn more about MSP Camp and how we provide the campaigns and content MSPs need to scale, visit: msp-camp.com

Marketing and Managing Co-Managed IT with Bob Coppedge
Bob started his MSP journey with a Co-Managed client. This experience helped him refine his Co-Managed offering and he was gracious enough to share some key considerations when marketing to Co-Managed prospects. He also shares insight into ongoing management of these accounts.
I hope you find this as helpful as I did. Thanks for jumping on Bob!
If you want to learn more about MSP Camp and how we provide the campaigns and content MSPs need to scale, visit: msp-camp.com

What to do when your MSP prospect ghosts you
This happens to all of us and we'll happen even more as you start getting additional leads outside of referrals.
In this episode, we lay out how to reengage MSP prospects that went dark on you...
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Building Referral Partners for your MSP
I have personally failed at this for YEARS, but have found recent success and wanted to share what we're doing differently to cultivate strong referral partners!
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Vertical Specific Marketing for MSPs with Dan De Steno
Whether you focus on one vertical, a few verticals, or all verticals, this episode will provide insight into the power of niches and how a successful MSP owner uses this to his advantage.
Dan is a long time friend and was gracious enough to jump on the podcast to explain how and why he focuses completely on a single vertical.
Thanks again for listening and supporting this podcast. We do not take it for granted!
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Bonus- Random Marketing Idea
Bonus- Random Marketing Idea
I used to do this a lot when I first started. It's not a "silver bullet" but did help us get a great Co-Managed client that added $6k MRR.
It's worth checking out and potentially adding it to your marketing activities.
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Offer to Be a Presenter For Your Clients
Short and sweet this week!
Tom Lawrence used to present "protecting digital you" to local banks for their clients. This was an end user facing presentation that did not get in the weeds of the technicals.
We have been leaning more into this strategy of targeting clients that have an audience of potential clients.
In this episode, we break down the obvious idea and some ways to capitalize on it!
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Managing Marketing Vendors for your MSP
You never want to just outsource your marketing. The MSPs that own their marketing are the ones that consistently grow.
That being said, the chances of you doing everything in-house is very low.
You may have website developers, videographers, graphic designers, advertising specialist, etc that you hire to assist in executing on your plan.
Managing marketing vendors is a skill, like everything else.
Being the "general contractor" means you need to have a good understanding of how the pieces fit together, have clear communication, and expectations.
In this episode, we outline tips and advice to make sure you're getting the most out of your marketing vendors!
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Using ChatGPT 4 in your MSP Marketing
I know we're late to the party, but better late than never I suppose!
In this episode, Maurice and Steven lay out some recommendations on getting the most out of ChatGPT 4 for your marketing.
Any other tips you might have? Let us know!

Account Management for MSPs
Adding new business is absolutely critical to growing your MSP. Marketing will communicate your value and grow your revenue, but don't leave your current clients out of your campaigns!
We consistently adding thousands in MRR every quarter form our existing client base, and they're happy to pay.
In this episode, Collin (Alltek Services Account Manager) and I discuss our approach to client satisfaction, ongoing reviews, and upsell opportunities.
We share actionable tips to help you improve the Account Management process at your MSP!
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Sending a monthly newsletter to your MSP Clients
Not the sexiest topic in the world, but an important piece of your marketing that's easy to do.
Are you going to get tons of leads from an email or printed newsletter? Nope.
But it does build your authority and client engagement.
In this episode, we discuss what content to include and how newsletters have a positive impact at our MSP.
Needs awesome content to engage your clients and prospects? Join MSP Camp if your area is open :)
Join the discussion in our open Facebook group: MSP Marketing and Sales group

What you should include in your MSP Sales Presentation
Yes, you should have a sales presentation. Don't just show up empty handed or with a sad looking sales document.
In this episode we cover qualifying and questions prior to the meeting, building your sales folder and supporting documents, presenting effectively in the meeting, and a quick tip on follow up.
Make sure to check out MSP Camp to jump start your marketing!
Join the discussion in our open Facebook group: MSP Marketing and Sales group

Marketing an MSP in a Recession
Everyone is screaming potential recession, but all is green for go in the MSP space and many other sectors.
However, it's inevitable that a recession will occur... at some point.
In this episode, Taher breaks down challenges and opportunities from a marketing perspective for your MSP.
This is a combination of input from the owner of Alltek, Taher, MSP Camp members, and members of our peer group, so I'm not going to pretend it's all me on this one!
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Mental Health Tips for MSPs
Going a little off topic from marketing on this one, but it's important.
This can be a stressful industry. Whether you're small or large, each come with their own set of challenges.
Focusing on your mental health is critical to sustainable success.
In this episode, we go over some tips to help you focus on something even more important than marketing - your mental health.

MSP Website Best Practices
In this episode, we start off with some technical aspects of website management. This part can be a little dense, but it is important to know many of these whether you're doing your own website or not.
Next up, we dive into some specific recommendations based on what has worked at our MSP and what could have the highest impact on your website.
It's a long one, but worth it if you're looking to improve your website and actually start getting leads through your site!
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How To Get More Referrals From Your MSP Clients
There is no silver bullet in marketing or getting more referrals. In this episode we cover how we stimulate referrals within our client base. Nothign fancy, just some ideas that can help you get more referrals to grow your MSP!
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Interview with a Cold Caller - James with QuickPass
It's nice to hear how businesses are using Telemarketing to grow their business, but it's also beneficial to hear from those actually doing the work!
James cold called me a few months ago and his pitch was great.
James shares some excellent advice from the perspective of the caller!
Check out our new telemarketing management guide on the guide section from our partners at Contact Science

Telemarketing for MSPs with Special Guest Bob Howard (Founder of Contact Science)
Due to popular demand, we brought on the founder of Contact Science to discuss Telemarketing/Cold Calling for MSPs. He's been doing this for 20 years and shares excellent advice to all MSPs that currently have a caller and those looking to add one to their marketing strategy!
We also discuss our official partnership with Contact Science. MSP Camp provides the scripts we use at our MSP, but Contact Science are true experts in this realm so we recommend our members and listeners reach out to them for additional guidance on the topic. They have been instrumental to our success using telemarketing!

Should You Be Advertising Your MSP
There are two primary activities MSPs think they should do when they start marketing their business. They believe they should be cold calling and advertising right away.
While this may pay off in the short run, it is a detriment to your long term growth. You need to learn to think like a marketer and growing organically before you spend money on either of these.
In this episode we cover whether you should be advertising, when you should start advertising, and mistakes to avoid when you do!
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How to hire a marketing intern or coordinator for your MSP
If you've listened to more than a few episodes, you already know we're HUGE advocates of having a dedicated marketing person at your MSP. In this episode we outline HOW to go about doing this.
We also interview Steven and Maddie who started as interns here to get their insight into what they were looking for in a position and expectations. I really lucked out with these two! Not only are they awesome, they're actually great at being on a podcast!
Check out our Free Guide on msp-camp.com for a concise overview of how and why to hire a marketing intern.
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Marketing and Sales Lessons with Rob Rae
Rob Rae may be one of the most famous individuals in the channel. Despite that, he is exceedingly humble and down to Earth.
I met Rob the first few months working at Alltek Services, when I was as green as it gets. Seeing what this dude did made me want to think bigger and aim higher!
I caught Rob during his hiatus so I took full advantage. We had a wonderful conversation around finding a differentiator, marketing, and sales that should be applicable to anyone listening.
I hope you enjoy the conversation and we appreciate you listening to the podcast!

My brother and the Legend Adam Hamid
Adam is an entrepreneur and marketing expert. He's never studied either in any formal way, he just gets it. In this episode, we go over the history of his businesses, his successes, failures, and what makes him stand out from the dozens of other gyms near him. He is almost always at full capacity at his gyms. That's hard to do when you're charging a premium rate in a crowded space!
While he may not run or market an MSP, the lessons in this episode can teach us all a thing or two about the psychology of growing your business and thinking outside the box!
This one starts a little slow but the conversation really picks up about 1/3 the way in so make sure you stick around!
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Finding a True Differentiator for your MSP
I tell this story a lot because it taught me a lot
Creating true differentiators is difficult but absolutely required. In this podcast, I go over our exact differentiators and ideas for additional differentiators to give you some ideas on how to develop your own!
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Blackpoint and the importance of marketing and selling MDR
Special Guest Blackpoint
In this episode we speak with Justin at Blackpoint. We currently use Blackpoint at Alltek Services. This podcast isn't designed to sell you on Blackpoint, it's to communicate WHY every MSP should have an Managed Detection and Response offering and how to market and sell it to your clients and prospects.
While discussing cybersecurity can be a challenge at times, MDR seems to hit home with prospects. Positioning it correctly is a must!
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A Case For Break Fix
Full disclaimer, we no longer do monitoring agreements. However, we did for years and they worked great! You get your foot in the door, your backup and security products in place, but support is hourly. Make sure you get a block of time at an increased hourly over your managed clients and it's a great partnerships.
In this episode, we go over how to do this properly, red flags form prospects, and how you can market this as a differentiator.
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The MSP that gave away a Telsa
I saw a post recently about an MSP that gave away a Tesla... Needless to say I was immediately intrigued.
Ironically, most of the comments were fairly negative and the community thought it was a bad idea.
Well, I commented how much I loved the idea, and the guy that came up with the idea responded.
In this podcast, I interview Hunter with ComTech to go over how he came up with the idea, executing on it, and of course, the results!
A quick note, I love how many MSPs are open and willing to be on the podcast. They don't care about "competition" they're just willing to help. I hope you find value in this conversation. I know it got me motivated to think even bigger!
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