
Take On The South
By Institute for Southern Studies, University of South Carolina

Take On The SouthNov 02, 2022

S2E20--Latin America, Caribbean, and the South as a Global Phenomenon
Mark Smith is joined by Matt Childs, professor of history at the University of South Carolina, to discuss the longstanding connections between the South, Latin America, and the Caribbean. They discuss shared cultural practices, economic realities, and histories and the idea that, in some ways, the South has always been akin to the more southerly parts of the Americas than the US North. Childs argues that, in order to understand the South as more than simply "the place that is not the North," we need to place the region into hemispheric and global contexts, looking for places of interconnection that transcend national borders.
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[VIDEO] Student Spotlight: Southern Living Recipes and Evolving Southern Identity
Mark Smith talks to Southern Studies alumna Emily Ames (University of South Carolina class of '23) about her senior thesis: an examination of nearly 50 years of recipes in Southern Living magazine. How do these recipes, and their evolution over time, speak to how the South's ideas of itself and the region's place in America?

Student Spotlight: Southern Living Recipes and Evolving Southern Identity
Mark Smith talks to Southern Studies alumna Emily Ames (University of South Carolina class of '23) about her senior thesis: an examination of nearly 50 years of recipes in Southern Living magazine. How do these recipes, and their evolution over time, speak to how the South's ideas of itself and the region's place in America?
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S2E19--Contemporary Southern Poetry and the Multitudes of Souths
Jennifer Gunter spoke with the poet, Christian J. Collier. He is a Black, Southern writer, arts organizer, and teaching artist who resides in Chattanooga, Tennessee. His works have appeared in several journals and poetry reviews. A 2015 Loft Spoken Word Immersion Fellow, he is also the winner of the 2020 ProForma Contest and the 2019-2020 Seven Hills Review Poetry Contest. His most recent work The Gleaming of the Blade, was named the 2021 Frost Place Competition Editors’ Selection.
They discussed the parameters of spoken word and the power of language. Collier also talked about ways he uses race as a way at getting at a number of other issues such as intimacy and vulnerability. His take on the South is that we exist in a multitude of Souths, some not necessarily evident to all residents.

Kids on the South--An interview with Rose Smith
What does a South Carolina-born child understand about the South and Southern identity? Mark Smith is joined by his eight year old daughter, Rose, for an intriguing (and adorable) short interview that reveals much about how ideas such as "South" are put into larger social, pop cultural, and familial contexts as children begin the process of understanding their place in the world.

S2E18--Horse Racing in the South
We're back with another conversation!
Just in time for the Kentucky Derby, Mark Smith is joined by Dr. Gabi Kuenzli of the USC history department for a discussion of the role of horse racing in the South. What's the historical background of the sport in the region? How does horse racing point to the ways in which the South has long been a global phenomenon, particularly in its connections with Latin America?
Video version of this conversation:
https://youtu.be/CFMYmk1u_Gk
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Southern Almanac: B is for Bourbon
Our eclectic, alphabetic tour of the South continues with a look at the South's iconic spirit: bourbon. Matt Simmons discusses the origins and name of the drink, the relationships between the South and the West, bourbon as place-in-a-glass, the differences between Tennessee and Kentucky whiskeys, how Jack Daniel got his start, a whiskey-related museum curated by teetotalers, Walker Percy's mint julep recipe, and more.
Mentioned in this episode:
The Kentucky Encyclopedia, edited by John E. Kleber, et al., University Press of Kentucky, 1992.
The Lost Story of Nearest Green, the Slave Who Taught Jack Daniel How to Make Whiskey
Granville Whiskey Decanter Museum
Walker Percy's essay "Bourbon" is most easily found in the posthumous essay collection Signposts in a Strange Land
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Southern Almanac: A is for Azaleas
In the first of a new series we're trying out, Matt Simmons introduces "The Southern Almanac." We begin with azaleas, and take a tour around the South, checking in with how this beloved bush connects mountains and the coast, golf and gardening, New England Southophiles and Lowcountry abolitionists, and round it off with a poem by Sidney Lanier.
Mentioned in the episode:
Elizabeth Lawrence's A Southern Garden
Constance Fenimore Woolson's Rodman the Keeper
The New Georgia Encyclopedia on the Masters Tournament
Sidney Lanier's "The Bee"
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S2E17--A Conversation with Lou Kennedy
Dr. Mark Smith of the Institute for Southern Studies is joined by the 2023 McNair Conversation in Southern Studies Honoree, Lou Kennedy. Ms. Kennedy is an alumna of the University of South Carolina and the CEO of Nephron Pharmaceuticals. This discussion touches on economic development, the doors a Southern accent opens, and the challenges faced by women in business.
The McNair Conversation is an annual event in which thinkers, leaders, and just plain interested people from the South are interviewed about their lives and how they understand the region. It is funded in part by a generous grant from the estate of the late Robert McNair, governor of South Carolina from 1965-1971.

S2E16--Latinos and Southern Agriculture
Mark Smith is joined by Dr. Amy Snipes of Penn State to discuss the state of Latino farm labor in the South. What policies--both formal and informal--created the current reality of the South's agricultural sector being dominated by Latino labor? How does this echo previous eras of agricultural labor in the South? What current challenges are faced by Latino farm laborers? How do Southern cultural norms create a space in which Latinos feel comfortable doing seasonal farm labor in the South?

S2E15--Jesse Jackson: Southerner
Professor Kent Germany of USC's History department steps in as a guest host to interview David Masciotra, author of I Am Somebody: Why Jesse Jackson Matters, about the life of the civil rights leader and Democratic party stalwart, and how Jackson's Southerness informed his work.

S2E14--Black Art in the South

S2E13--Travel and Segregation
Mark Smith is joined by UPenn history professor Mia Bay, author of the recent book Traveling Black, to discuss the history of travel segregation. The conversation discusses familiar challenges in the Jim Crow South, but also points to the development of travel segregation in the Northern United States.
Check out our YouTube channel for video recordings of interviews! New videos are posted on the Monday after the audio podcast.

S2E12--The Battle of Hayes Pond
In January 1958, the Ku Klux Klan decided to hold a rally outside of the small town of Maxton, North Carolina. The goal was to intimidate local Native American groups and inscribe their place within the Jim Crow hierarchy--but when large numbers of armed Indians showed up, the plan backfired spectacularly.
Matt Simmons is joined by Judge James Lockemy, the recently-retired chief judge of the South Carolina Court of Appeals, to discuss the background, events, and aftermath of what is now remembered as the Battle of Hayes Pond, as well as the place of Native Americans, and particularly the Lumbee Indians of North Carolina, in the story of the South.

S2E11--The Origins of Southern College Football
We're in the midst of bowl season, and we figure some of y'all are itching for even more football content--we're here for you! On today's episode, Mark Smith is joined by Andy Doyle, Associate Professor of history at Winthrop University to discuss the origins of college football in the South. How did this thoroughly industrialized, northeastern game associated with New England gentry and the Ivy League--which was originally rejected by Southerners as a "Yankee game"--come to dominate the region? It's a fascinating story full of colorful characters that you'll want to share with all of your football-loving friends and family.
This will be our last episode of 2022. We'll see y'all in the new year!

S2E10--Civil Asset Forfeiture in South Carolina
Mark Smith is joined by Ted Mauro, Chair of the South Carolina Advisory Committee to the US Commission on Civil Rights, to discuss the history and consequences of civil asset forfeiture in South Carolina.

S2E9--A Conversation with Jason Mott
Two sons of Columbus County, North Carolina walk into a podcast studio...
We were honored to have Jason Mott, the National Book Award winning author of Hell of a Book, join us in this episode. Matt Simmons interviews Mott about their mutual home county, place, the stories we can tell and not tell, myth, and the very nature of home itself, all through the lens of this fantastic novel. Join us for this great conversation!

S2E8--The South on Screen
From D.W. Griffith's The Birth of a Nation through this past summer's smash hit, Where the Crawdads Sing, the South has always been a key locale of Hollywood's vision of America. How does the region feature in America's cinematic imagination? How does Hollywood use the South, and how has the South on screen evolved over time? Matt Simmons is joined by a panel of guests today to discuss. You'll leave with a list of movies to watch!

S2E7--Unlearning the South
An Englishman, a New Englander, and a Southerner walk into a podcast studio and have...a simply incredible conversation about the South, what ideas we bring to the region, and what we have to unlearn about it to make sense of it and ourselves within it.
Matt Simmons is joined by Mark Smith and Andrew Berns, professor of history at the University of South Carolina, for an electric conversation. We could have gone on for three times as long!

S2E6--Research, Funding Streams, and the Future of a Southern University
Mark Smith is joined by Dr. Julius Fridriksson, the Vice President for Research at the University of South Carolina, to discuss the challenges and opportunities a major Southern university faces--and those it can help solve through research. Join us for this wide-ranging conversation about funding streams, the interactions of state and federal government agencies, modeling civil debate and engagement, science and the productivity of disagreement, and how the University of South Carolina's forthcoming new health sciences campus will position UofSC to be a national leader for years to come.

S2E5--Gin, Jesus, and Jim Crow
How do Prohibition, religious revivalism, and Jim Crow intersect in the late 19th century? How does a proper understanding of these intersections shape how we make sense of the post-Reconstruction South, including how we conceive of notions of "liberal" and "conservative" and our idea of capital-P Progress?
Matt Simmons is joined by Brendan J.J. Payne, author of Gin, Jesus, and Jim Crow, in a wide-ranging conversation to discuss these ideas.
Gin, Jesus, and Jim Crow at LSU Press.

S2E4--The South Carolina State Constabulary
It's a story of moonshine, politics, Reconstruction, reform, populism, labor unrest, and rioting as we explore the history of the South Carolina State Constabulary and the development of state-level law enforcement in SC. Matt Simmons is joined by Mark Huguley, the mayor of Arcadia Lakes, SC, a retired SC law enforcement officer, and amateur historian for a fascinating and colorful conversation.

S2E3--The Frankie San Story
Why does a Japanese man work his way across the entire United States to study Christianity in Columbia, South Carolina? Once in Columbia, how does he become an influential reformer of one of the most notorious prisons in American history? This is the story of Frankie San: soldier in the Japanese Imperial Army, friend to a cowboy, Lutheran pastor, educator, librarian, and minister to those on death row. Matt Simmons is joined by Shannon Smith and Scott Reeves of the James R. Crumley, Jr. Archives to discuss this fascinating story of humility, faith, social justice, and belonging.

S2E2--Spirit the Tattoo Artist
When an Englishman enters a Columbia, SC tattoo parlor, he finds himself participating in an unearthing the serendipitous connections of Southern history, fathers and son, and art as an access point to history. Join Mark Smith as he and Columbia, SC-based tattoo artist "Spirit" share their incredible story, discuss the development of tattooing in the South, and think through how art works to reinforce history.
Mark and Spirit discuss Eldzier Cortor's 1973 painting, Still-Live: Past Revisisted in the course of the conversation.
https://tattoosbyspirit.com/

S2E1--Carolina Crossroads
In the first episode of our new season, we think through how roads help to shape and define the South. In particular, we talk about "Malfunction Junction," South Carolina's most notorious highway interchange, the stretch of highway where I-20 and I-26 come together west of Columbia. What's the history of Malfunction Junction and what does that history tell us about the development of South Carolina over the last several generations? More importantly, what is its future as it transforms into "Carolina Crossroads" over the rest of this decade? Mark Smith is joined by Brian Klauk, project manager of the Carolina Crossroad projects, and Pete Poore, the communications director of the South Carolina Department of Transportation, to discuss.
https://www.scdotcarolinacrossroads.com/

Summer Special--Connie Schulz, the Pinckneys, and Public History
In one of our most instructive episodes yet, Mark Smith is joined by Connie Schulz, Distinguished Professor Emerita of History at the University of South Carolina, for a fascinating conversation about her life and work. Along the way, we learn about the development of public history as an academic discipline, the evolution of how we study the role of women in our national history, and the differences between digital and analog editions of the papers of historical figures. Dr. Schulz also gives us an overview of the Pinckney family, one of the leading political dynasties of the Revolutionary and Early Republic periods, and explains how studying the personal papers of major historical figures also gives us insight into the lives of the otherwise lost-to-history individuals with whom they interacted. Finally, we're given a view into how historians work within and gather archival materials and how the all-important grants process works.
You're certain to learn a thing or two in this episode! Join us.

Summer Special--A College Newspaper and the Evolution of Historical Memory
When Sean Dedmon, a 2022 graduate of the University of South Carolina, was looking for a project for his senior thesis, he decided to look through the archives of The Gamecock, UofSC's student newspaper. There, Sean found a debate about how students understood and memorialize the Civil War spanning five decades. The evolution of this debate parallels changes at the University and the state of South Carolina's place in broader national conversations. In this second of our summer special episodes, Mark Smith interviews Sean about his findings.

Summer Special--The 2022 Southern Primary Season
The political primary season is in full swing in the South, and Joshua Meyer-Gutbrod of UofSC's Political Science department joins Mark Smith to discuss in this first of a series of special summer episodes.

S1E14--A Conversation with Thavolia Glymph (Mark Smith and Thavolia Glymph)
The final podcast of our first season!
In the inaugural event of the Institute for Southern Studies' Conversations on the American South series, Mark Smith is joined by Thavolia Glymph, Peabody Family Distinguished Professor of History at Duke University. In addition to talking about her work--especially her books The Women's Fight: The Civil War's Battles for Home, Freedom, and Nation and Out of the House of Bondage: The Transformation of the Plantation Household--Dr. Glymph talks about how growing up in South Carolina shaped her understanding of her own self, her scholarship, and the South as a place understandable through the multiplicity of its stories. The wonderful conversation is followed up by an equally interesting question and answer period.
Thanks for listening to the first season of Take on the South--see y'all in August with new episodes!

S1E13--Andrew Jackson's Presidency and Papers (Mark Smith and Michael Woods)
Dr. Michael Woods, editor of the Andrew Jackson Papers project and professor of history at the University of Tennessee at Knoxville, joins Mark Smith to talk about the seventh president of the United States. How do lore and historical fact interact as we examine Jackson? What complexities about the man, his political circle, and the first third of the 19th century are revealed in his papers? Dr. Woods also discusses the process of editing this massive collection of papers and the challenges faced by Jackson's biographers.
https://thepapersofandrewjackson.utk.edu/

S1E12--The Baldwin/Buckley Debate from a Southern Perspective (Mark Smith and Nick Buccola)
The Cambridge Union debate between James Baldwin and William F. Buckley, Jr. was a flashpoint in the Civil Rights Movement. Nick Buccola, the author of the award-winning The Fire is Upon Us: James Baldwin, William F. Buckley Jr., and the Debate Over Race in America, joins Mark Smith to discuss how this debate between two New Yorkers, taking place in England, has Southern contexts.

S1E11--Rural Electrification and South Carolina's Electric Co-Ops (Mark Smith and Lacy Ford)
(Mark Smith's microphone was acting up in this episode)
The coming of electricity to rural South Carolina in the 1920s, 30s, and 40s was one of the great societal shifts in the state's history. More than just the story of electricity, it's the story of economic development, public/private partnerships and their associated political complexities, the environment, labor, and changes in how South Carolinians understood themselves and their place in the world. Lacy K. Ford, Jr., former Dean of the College of Arts and Sciences and emeritus professor of History at the University of South Carolina, explores these interconnections in his new book, Empowering Communities: How Electric Cooperatives Transformed Rural South Carolina and joins Mark Smith to discuss the story.

S1E10--Economic Development in the South (Matt Simmons and Jeremy Ward)
The South is home to some of the most economically dynamic cities and metropolitan areas in the country--but also a large number of places left behind by the ending of the previous economic order in the late 20th Century. Why do some Southern communities thrive while others lag? How do history, policy, and geography shape the economic fortunes of the South's small towns? And finally, what practical steps can be taken to help the South's small towns and rural areas thrive once again? Matt Simmons is joined by Jeremy Ward, a 2021 graduate of the University of South Carolina's economics department who is currently doing graduate work at Georgia Tech, to discuss these exact questions.

S1E9--Citizenship on Catfish Row (Geoffrey Galt Harpham and Mark Smith)
What do three seemingly disparate works--the first truly significant American film, The Birth of a Nation, the first American musical, Showboat, and the first American opera, Porgy and Bess--share in common? How do they tell authentically American stories and inescapably Southern stories--and do they call into question the very distinction between American and Southern? Mark Smith interviews Geoffrey Galt Harpham of Duke University about his forthcoming book, Citizenship on Catfish Row, about these very questions.
Citizenship on Catfish Row (forthcoming from UofSC Press)

Episode 8: The Union County Remembrance Project (Jennifer Gunter, Timika Wilson, Kate Schoen)
In this episode, we talk to UCCRP Co-Leads, Timika Wilson and Kate Schoen. They discuss the process they underwent from learning of these atrocities through creating the project and erecting the markers. The project is sponsored by the Equal Justice Initiative (EJI) and they worked closely with them to develop and install two of the makers. The third was erected to honor the lives of twelve men who were lynched in 1871 by local members of the Ku Klux Klan in an event known as the Union Jail Raid and Massacre. It was a collaborative effort with the South Carolina Department of Archives and History’s (SCDAH) State Historical Marker program and was funded by South Carolina Humanities. (Hosted by Jennifer Gunter)
Timika M. Wilson, UCCRP Co-Lead (Union County, SC), Programming Committee Chair, and Fundraising Committee Chair (Interim)
Kate Borchard Schoen, UCCRP Co-Lead (at large) and Equal Justice Initiative Coalition Liaison https://eji.org
Facebook -- https://www.facebook.com/groups/UCCRP
Union County Community Remembrance Project https://www.unioncountycrp.com

Episode 7: Southern Rock (Matt Simmons, Todd Hagstette, Jeff Rogers, and Robert Dean Lurie)
To say "Southern Rock" is a "Southern" musical genre is a truism--but what, exactly, is it? How does the groovy, swaggering Southern Rock of the 1970s connect to the emergence of jangly College Rock in the 1980s and 90s? How does this music tell the story of Southern identity, and how has that music evolved over the last 50 years as Southern identity itself has evolved? And finally, how has the rise of Spotify and other streaming platforms changed the possibilities for creating and engaging the "Southern" in rock music?
Joining Matt Simmons in this lively discussion are Todd Hagstette of the University of South Carolina-Aiken, Jeff Rogers of Gordon State College, and music journalist and critic Robert Dean Lurie, author of the acclaimed Begin the Begin: R.E.M.'s Early Years.

Episode 6: The 1st South Carolina Volunteers (Mark Smith and Valinda Littlefield)
While Hollywood has made the 54th Massachusetts Infantry the best-known African American unit in the Civil War, it was not the first--that distinction goes to the 1st South Carolina Volunteers, a unit based out of the SC Lowcountry, made up of formerly enslaved soldiers from South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida. Theirs is a great Southern story, of freedom, courage, tragedy, and intimate knowledge of place. Why is this unit so little-known in the 21st Century? And what actions are local leaders in Beaufort, SC taking to make theirs a nationally-known story? Mark Smith is joined by Valinda Littlefield, professor of History and African American Studies at the University of South Carolina, to discuss.
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Episode 5: Contemporary Southern Poetry (Matt Simmons and Ray McManus)
Hosted by: Matt Simmons

Ellison Fellowship Special 4: Raven Gadsden on Gullah/Geechee Literatures (Jennifer Gunter and Raven Gadsden)
In this last episode, Gunter interviews Raven Gadsden, a graduate student in UofSC's English Department, whose research examines the literatures of the Gullah/Geechee people.
Hosted by: Jennifer Gunter

Ellison Fellowship Special 3: Jordan Davis on the Archaeology of Black Seminoles (Jennifer Gunter and Jordan Davis)
In this episode, we learn about the research of Jordan Davis, a graduate student in UofSC's Anthropology Department, who examines the archaeological record of the interactions of African Americans and Seminoles in Florida.
Hosted by: Jennifer Gunter

Ellison Fellowship Special 1: Spud McCullough on Gullah/Geechee Tour Guides (Jennifer Gunter and Spud McCullough)
Up first: Spud McCullough, a graduate student in UofSC's Anthropology Department, with a project on Gullah/Geechee Tour Guides in the South Carolina Lowcountry.
Hosted by: Jennifer Gunter

Ellison Fellowship Special 2: Archie Crowley on Linguisitic Practice amongst Transgender Southerners (Jennifer Gunter and Archie Crowley)
In this second episode, Gunter interviews Archie Crowley, a graduate student in UofSC's Linguistics Program, with a project on linguistic practice and activism by transgender individuals in the South.
Hosted by: Jennifer Gunter

Episode 4: Reclaiming Southern Spaces with the Radical Labor of Dance (Jennifer Gunter, Tanya Wideman-Davis, and Thaddeus Davis)
Hosted by: Jennifer Gunter

Minisode: Southern Politics after the Virginia Gubernatorial Election

Episode 3: Wrasslin' and Changing Identity in the Contemporary South (Matt Simmons, Robert Greene, II, Andre Key, Miles Smith, IV)

Episode 2: McAuliffe vs. Youngkin--Virginia's Governor's Race (Mark Smith and Joshua Myer-Gutbrod)
Hosted by: Mark Smith

Episode 1: Southern Studies: Legacies and Futures (Mark Smith and Walter Edgar)
Hosted by: Mark Smith

Episode 0: Origins of the Podcast, "Take on the South" (Matt Simmons and Mark Smith)
Hosted by: Matt Simmons