
The Cyber Security Transformation Podcast
By Corix Partners

The Cyber Security Transformation PodcastSep 28, 2023

Series 4 - "The Relationship between the CISO and the Board: What's Really Going On?" - Episode 20
In this episode, JC Gaillard starts to explore the nature and the mechanics of the relationship between the CISO and the Board, in the light of two recent surveys and their conflicting headlines; References: The ComputerWeekly article mentioned in the episode can be found here; The InfoSecurityMag article can be found here; and the Proofpoint report "Cybersecurity: The 2023 Board Perspective" here

Series 4 - "The Cybersecurity Spiral of Failure" - Episode 19
In this episode, JC Gaillard looks back at what has been happening in some large organisations around cybersecurity across the last two decades, and at the dynamics of what he has been calling the "cybersecurity spiral of failure"; read his original article on the theme here

Series 4 - "A Recruitment Perspective on the Role of the CISO" - with guest Owanate Bestman - Episode 18
In this episode, JC Gaillard looks back at the role of the CISO in the light of discussions on the theme in the last few episodes, and takes a recruitment perspective on the role, its history and its evolution with guest and recruitmemnt specialist Owanate Bestman; some of JC's views on the topic can be found here; Owanate's profile can be found here

Series 4 - "Why are we still talking about the reporting line of the CISO?" - with guest Mark Segelov - Episode 17
In this episode, JC Gaillard and guest Mark Segelov look back at the reporting line of the CISO, and why it is still a hot topic of discussion amongst cybersecurity professionals; JC's views on the topic can be found in those 2 pieces from 2017 and 2018, which are revisited in the podcast; Mark's Linkedin profile can be found here

Series 4 - "Is it time to accept that the role of the CISO may be failing? - part 2" - Episode 16
In this episode, JC Gaillard goes back to the content of Episode 14 and explores a number of comments received on Linkedin around the associated article, and in particular, how the role of the CSO needs to be conceived and positioned, and the importance of a structured cybersecurity operating model

Series 4 - "The Key Ingredients of a Successful GRC Programme" - Episode 15
In this episode, JC Gaillard looks back at IT GRC programmes, why they often fail, and why integration of business threats, technology risks, controls and protective measures is key to success; read his original article on the theme here.

Series 4 - "Is it time to accept that the role of the CISO may be failing?" - Episode 14
In this episode, JC Gaillard revisits earlier discussions around the role of the CISO, highlighting issues with the historical construction of the role and why a CSO role may be the way forward in some firms; read his original article on the theme here

Series 4 - "From Vendor Risk to Supply Chain Risk - Part 2" - with guest Richard Preece - Episode 13
In this episode, JC Gaillard and Richard Preece continue their exchanges initiated in Episode 6 of this series around supply chain risk and comment on the outcome of the Security Transformation Research Foundation meeting in late June

Series 4 - "The Cybersecurity Numbers Game is a Dangerous One for CISOs" - Episode 12
In this episode, JC Gaillard revisits two apparently conflicting vendor surveys and explores how playing the cybersecurity numbers game can leave CISOs weakened and exposed; read his original article on the theme here

Series 4 - "A Reality Check Around Cybersecurity Benchmarking" - Episode 11
In this episode, JC Gaillard looks at the challenges involved with cybersecurity benchmarking, and why the CISOs need to be careful when answering what could be a politically loaded question

Series 4 - "The Momentum Building Behind the Role of the CSO" - Episode 10
In this episode, JC Gaillard explores the momentum behind the role of the Chief Security Officer and why it starts to make sense in many firms to evolve the role of the CISO and return it to its native technical content

Series 4 - "Creating Transformational Dynamics around Cybersecurity" - Episode 9

Series 4 - "The CISO and the Board" - Episode 8
In this episode, JC Gaillard looks back at a recent survey from IANS Research and questions whether you should really expect your current CISO to sit on the Board; read his original article on the theme here

Series 4 - "Dispelling Some Myths around Cybersecurity for Small Businesses" - Episode 7
In this episode, JC Gaillard addresses the challenges of cybersecurity for small and mid-size businesses and in particular how a number of misconceptions still lead to the adverse prioritisation of security matters and protective measures; read his original article on the theme here

Series 4 - "From Vendor Risk to Supply Chain Risk" - with guest Richard Preece - Episode 6
In this episode, JC Gaillard and guest Richard Preece start exploring the various dimensions involved in managing supply chain risk, what it means for businesses, and how it differs from traditional vendor risk.

Series 4 - "There Are Just Too Many Security Tools and Products" - Episode 5
In this episode, JC Gaillard looks back at the state of the cybersecurity industry and analyzes possible reasons behind the proliferation of security tools and services, and the problems it creates for large organizations; read his original article on the theme here

Series 4 - "The When-Not-If Paradigm: Blessing or Curse for the CISO?" - Episode 4
In this episode, JC Gaillard goes back to the "when-not-if" paradigm around cyber attacks, which he mentioned in previous episodes, and explores its impact for the CISO; read his original article on the theme here

Series 4 - "What's going on with CISOs and their budgets?" - Episode 3
In this third episode of our fourth series, JC Gaillard looks back at cybersecurity budgets and analyzes the reasons behind the considerable underspent highlighted by a recent survey; read his original article on the theme here

Series 4 - "Zero-Trust is not about Zero; it's about Trust" - Episode 2
JC Gaillard looks back at a number of aspects involving zero-trust technology and why putting technology first is probably the biggest mistake you can make in that space; read his original article on the theme here

Series 4 - "Time to Go Back to Basics with Cyber Security" - Episode 1
Welcome to the 1st episode of our 4th Series - JC Gaillard starts to look back at the various topics that have been catching his eye since the end of the previous series: In this episode, why it is key to look beyond the hype on a number of tech matters and refocus our approach to cyber security on key concepts; read his original article on the theme here

Series 3 - "Process and People first, then Technology" - Episode 24
JC Gaillard reaches the final episode in this third series of the Corix Partners Cyber Security Transformation Podcast, and revisits a few key aspects highlighted throughout the series, in particular the importance of the "Process and People first, then Technology" principle

Series 3 - Looking back at "The First 100 Days of the New CISO" - Episode 23
JC Gaillard continues to analyze the way the various aspects highlighted in earlier episodes of the Series are interlinked; in this episode, he goes back to the "when-not-if" paradigm around cyber attacks and why tactical and strategic execution is paramount for the new CISO

Series 3 - Looking back at "The First 100 Days of the New CISO" - Episode 22
JC Gaillard reaches the final episodes in this Series and starts to look at how the various aspects highlighted in earlier episodes are interlinked; in this episode, the key traits senior execs and Board members need to focus on when hiring a new CISO

Series 3 - Looking back at "The First 100 Days of the New CISO" - Episode 21
JC Gaillard looks at the way the cyber security agenda needs to be framed at Board level, to enable the best positioning of the role and profile of the new CISO ahead of the "First 100 Days"

Series 3 - Looking back at "The First 100 Days of the New CISO" - Episode 20
JC Gaillard digs into the concept and definition of a Security Operating Model, why it needs to underpin the "First 100 Days of the New CISO", and why "Process and People first, then Technology" has to be the main guiding principle here

Series 3 - Looking back at "The First 100 Days of the New CISO" - Episode 19
JC Gaillard continues exploring a few specific topics surrounding the "First 100 Days of the New CISO"; in this episode, the reporting line of the CISO, why it matters and how to determine which would work best

Series 3 - Looking back at "The First 100 Days of the New CISO" - Episode 18
As part of his continuing exploration of the "First 100 Days of the New CISO", JC Gaillard looks into the profile of the CISO and why management experience is of paramount importance, over and above technical knowledge.

Series 3 - Looking back at "The First 100 Days of the New CISO" - Episode 17
JC Gaillard continues exploring the topics surrounding the "First 100 Days of the New CISO"; in this episode, he dives into the aspects surrounding the tenure of the CISO and why it is key to driving security transformation

Series 3 - Looking back at "The First 100 Days of the New CISO" - Episode 16 - with guest Neil Cordell
JC Gaillard is joined by Head of Cyber and Information Security at Swansea University Neil Cordell, to discuss his real-life experience of taking up a new CISO position in the midst of the Covid pandemic, and the lessons that can be learnt about bringing all stakeholders on board the cyber security transformation journey
Neil's details can be found here on Linkedin >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilcordell/

Series 3 - Looking back at "The First 100 Days of the New CISO" - Episode 15
JC Gaillard reaches the end of his exploration of the "First 100 Days of the New CISO" and before moving on to a number of episodes with guests on the theme, he digs into "expectations vs. reality" and explores the root causes of the disconnect which may exist between what the CISO finds on arrival and what they were sold at interview time

Series 3 - Looking back at "The First 100 Days of the New CISO" - Episode 14
JC Gaillard continues its exploration of the "First 100 Days of the New CISO" with an analysis on how tactical firefighting and the unavoidable handling of cybersecurity incidents must not be seen just as a "curse" throughout the first 100 days, but can be used to build up trust with stakeholders

Series 3 - Looking back at "The First 100 Days of the New CISO" - Episode 13
JC Gaillard reaches the end of the "6 days-6 weeks-6 months" cycle he explored around "The First 100 Days of the New CISO", and looks at what happens next, and how CISOs can continue to drive change

Series 3 - Looking back at "The First 100 Days of the New CISO" - Episode 12
JC Gaillard reaches the "6 months" part of his journey throughout the "First 100 Days of the New CISO"; in this episode, how to build an execution framework to support the strategic vision defined earlier, and why governance is key at this stage to support lasting change

Series 3 - Looking back at "The First 100 Days of the New CISO" - Episode 11
JC Gaillard continues developing his "6 days - 6 weeks - 6 months" model, framing the first 100 days of the new CISO; in this episode, the six weeks horizon, and how to continue building a strategic framework addressing the key challenges of the new CISO role

Series 3 - Looking back at "The First 100 Days of the New CISO" - Episode 10
JC Gaillard continues to look back at his 2017-2018 series of articles about "The First 100 Days of the New CISO"; in this episode, he looks into the challenges of the first week, and why it is key to understand the firm, its people and its culture from the start

Series 3 - Looking back at "The First 100 Days of the New CISO" - Episode 9
We enter the second part of our third series and JC Gaillard starts exploring and revisiting his 2017-2018 series of articles entitled "The First 100 Days of the New CISO"; in this episode, why context is key and how to assess it, looking in turn at the profile of the person, the nature of the role and the maturity of the firm

Series 3 - Looking back at "The CIO Guide to a Successful Cyber Security Practice" - Episode 8
JC Gaillard reaches the final part in the re-examination of his 2015 series titled "The CIO Guide to a Successful Cyber Security Practice"; in this episode, why it is key to think in terms of process first when architecting a cyber security practice, and not in terms of technical tools

Series 3 - Looking back at "The CIO Guide to a Successful Cyber Security Practice" - Episode 7
JC Gaillard reaches the 7th key management pitfall to avoid in his re-assessment of his 2015 series of articles entitled "The CIO Guide to a Successful Cyber Security Practice"; in this episode, why it is key to look at cyber security as a structured practice, and not just a collection of tactical activities and technical projects

Series 3 - Looking back at "The CIO Guide to a Successful Cyber Security Practice" - Episode 6
JC Gaillard reaches a key point in his journey through the 8 key management pitfalls for CIOs and CTOs to avoid when building or rebuilding cyber security practices; in this episode, why it is key to see cyber security not just as a technology discipline, and to build it as a cross-silo practice from the start

Series 3 - Looking back at "The CIO Guide to a Successful Cyber Security Practice - Episode 5
JC Gaillard moves onto his 5th key management pitfall to avoid when building or rebuilding effective and efficient cyber security practices; in this episode, why it is key to think in terms of operating model and work with all stakeholders including HR, in the definition and distribution of cyber security accountabilities and responsibilities

Series 3 - Looking back at "The CIO Guide to a Successful Cyber Security Practice" - Episode 4
JC Gaillard continues his re-examination of his 2015 series of articles titled "The CIO Guide to a Successful Cyber Security Practice"; in this episode, why it is key to look beyond the short term and think in terms of process to drive effective and lasting change

Series 3 - Looking back at "The CIO Guide to a Successful Cyber Security Practice" - Episode 3
JC Gaillard continues exploring and updating his 2015 series on the "CIO Guide to a Successful Cyber Security Practice"; in this episode, why throwing money at the problem is rarely the solution to maturity development around cyber security and why trust is paramount in the relation between the CISO and senior execs

Series 3 - Looking back at "The CIO Guide to a Successful Cyber Security Practice" - Episode 2
JC Gaillard continues to look back at his 2015 articles series "The CIO Giude to a Successful Cyber Security Practice" and highlights why risk management alone can no longer be the beating heart of cyber security practices

Series 3 - Looking back at "The CIO Guide to a Successful Cyber Security Practice" - Episode 1
JC Gaillard looks back at his 2015 series of articles published on the Corix Partners blog under the title of "The CIO Guide to a Successful Cyber Security Practice"; in this episode, he re-examines the first pitfall to avoid for CIOs and why cyber security cannot just be seen as an "enabler"
Series 2 - Episode 15 - A Look Back at the log4j Incident - with guest Chris Burtenshaw
JC Gaillard is joined by Chris Burtenshaw from Strata Security to discuss how the log4j incident unfolded and was handled, and the lessons that can be learnt from the pas few months
Series 2 - Episode 14 - Where are we now with GDPR? - with guest Cristina Contero
JC Gaillard is joined by Cristina Contero from Aphaia to follow up on earlier podcasts episodes on GDPR and review what has changed over the past 6 to 8 months since our last podcast on the theme with Bostjan Makarovic
Series 2 - Episode 13 - A Look Back at Cyber Security in 2021 - with guest Steve Lamb
JC Gaillard is joined again by guest Steve Lamb, who animated the launch of the first series of the podcast last year; together they look back at the drivers that have shaped cyber security throughout 2021, and more generally throughout the COVID pandemic
Series 2 - Episode 12 - Cyber Security, Governance & Risk for the Digital Age - with guest Richard Preece
JC Gaillard is joined by Richard Preece, Founder & Director, DA Resilience to discuss how the pandemic has affected cybersecurity governance, controls appetite and risk management from the Board down, and how exponential changes over the next decade are going to impact those trends
Series 2 - Episode 11 - Cyber Security, the CISO and the CIO: Seeing it From Both Sides of the Fence - with guest Natasha McCabe
JC Gaillard is joined by Natasha McCabe to discuss the leadership lessons which can be learned from having held both CISO and CIO roles, and having seen cyber security from the two sides of the fence
Series 2 - Episode 10 - Oscar O'Connor and JC Gaillard on Security Transformation, Covid-19, People and Trust
JC Gaillard is joined by Oscar O'Connor to discuss "Playing the Triangles", his latest piece on the Corix Partners blog: A reflection on business and security transformation dynamics in the post-covid era