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Tender Buttons Jun 28, 2021

031 Eliza Clark: Violence and Transgression
In this episode, we speak to novelist and short story writer Eliza Clark about her novel, Penance. We discuss violence and transgression within fiction, and what this can reveal about wider society. We chat about the satirisation of the true crime genre, and the socio-political context which surrounds violent acts. We examine the role of the internet in writing, publishing and how it effects our experiences of our bodies and desires. We discuss the influence of both mainstream and social media in shaping narratives about people and places, as well as aspects of social class and regional inequality between the north-east and London. We chat about what it means to write difficult female characters and the difference between writing first and second novels.
Eliza Clark is from Newcastle. In 2018, she received a grant from New Writing North's 'Young Writers Talent Fund'. Her debut novel, Boy Parts, was published by Influx Press in July 2020 and was Blackwell's Fiction Book of the Year. In 2022, Eliza was chosen as a finalist for the Women's Prize Futures Award for writers under thirty-five, and she was selected as one of Granta's Best of Young British Novelists in 2023. Penance was published by Faber in 2023.
References
Boy Parts by Eliza Clark
Penance by Eliza Clark
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030 Octavia Bright: Writing from Life
In this special live episode, we speak to writer and broadcaster Octavia Bright about her memoir, This Ragged Grace. We discuss the ways in which Octavia's roles as an interviewer, carer and linguist informed her process as an active listener and developed her writing voice. We explore the distinction between the pornographic and the erotic in relation to memoir writing, and discuss the process of revealing and concealment when writing from lived experience. We chat about the importance of images and symbols in articulating trauma, with reference to Louise Bourgeois' 'Spiral Woman' as a symbol which holds contradictions within recovery. We speak about the interweaving of presence, loss, memory and history within writing and discuss the influence of artists and writers such as Louise Bourgeois, Deborah Levy and Marlene Dumas on Octavia's work.
Octavia Bright is a writer and broadcaster. She co-hosts Literary Friction, the literary podcast and NTS Radio show, with Carrie Plitt. Recommended by The New York Times, Guardian, BBC Culture, Electric Literature, The Sunday Times and others, it has run for ten years and has listeners worldwide. She also presents programmes for BBC R4 including Open Book, and hosts literary events for bookshops, publishers, and festivals – such as Cheltenham Literature Festival and events for The Southbank Centre. Her writing has been published in a number of magazines including the White Review, Harper’s Bazaar, ELLE, Wasafiri, Somesuch Stories, and The Sunday Times, amongst others. She has a PhD from UCL where she wrote about hysteria and desire in Spanish cinema.
References
This Ragged Grace by Octavia Bright
Living Autobiography series by Deborah Levy
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029 Isabel Waidner: Liberating the Canon
In this episode, we chat to Isabel Waidner about their new novel, Corey Fah Does Social Mobility. We discuss the notion of 'liberating the canon' and the role of formal innovation in representing marginalised perspectives across gender, sexuality, social class and race. We explore the queering of the Bambi figure in Corey Fah Does Social Mobility, the radical importance of acknowledging references and transdisciplinary approaches to art-making. We discuss the role of football and music as traditional ways for working-class people to access 'social mobility' and consider how literature might fit within this. We explore the queering of time and history within the novel and highlight the necessity of balancing a critique of society with the liberatory potential of queer imaginaries. We dicuss the gatekeeping of the literary establishment, the false promises of meritocracy in awards culture and the commodification of art, exploring the limitations of neoliberalism.
Isabel Waidner is a writer based in London. They are the author of Corey Fah Does Social Mobility, Sterling Karat Gold, We Are Made of Diamond Stuff and Gaudy Bauble. They won the Goldsmiths Prize 2021 and were shortlisted for the Goldsmiths Prize in 2019, the Orwell Prize for Political Fiction in 2022 and the Republic of Consciousness Prize in 2018, 2020 and 2022. They are a co-founder of the event series Queers Read This at the Institute of Contemporary Arts and they are an academic in the School of English and Drama at Queen Mary University of London.
References
Liberating the Canon: An Anthology of Innovative Literature by Isabel Waidner
We Are Made of Diamond Stuff by Isabel Waidner
Sterling Carat Gold by Isabel Waidner
Corey Fah Does Social Mobility by Isabael Waidner
An Alternative Art History of the 1990s by Isabel Waidner (Frieze)
All Us Girls Have Been Dead for So Long by Linda Stupart and Carl Gent
Nicole Eisenman, Bambi Gregor, India ink on paper, 1993
John Lahr, Prick Up Your Ears, 1978
Loot by Joe Orton
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028 Siân Norris: Bodies Under Siege
In this episode, we speak to investigative journalist Siân Norris about her new book, Bodies Under Siege. We discuss the rise of far-right ideology across the world, and the ways in which fascism and the struggle for reproductive rights are inextricably linked. We consider the ways in which global anti-abortion networks are connected to movements which are underpinned by white supremacy and hostile to LGBTQIA+ rights. We think about the influence of these movements across the world, including their access to funding, their co-opting of feminist language and tactics used by the far-right to secure the support of women in their world as mothers, such as tradwifes and gender critical feminists. We discuss the possibilties of reproductive justice for women across the world, and consider the ways in which we might build a better world through the international reproductive justice movements, centered on resistance and solidarity.
Siân Norris is a writer and investigative journalist who has covered far-right movements and their relocation to the mainstream for a range of publications, including the UK's Byline Times and openDemocracy. Norris is a leading voice in the UK feminist movement and her writing on issues ranging from men's violence against women, to migrant rights, and poverty and inequality, has been published in the Guardian, New Statesman, the i, and many more publications. In 2012 she set up the Bristol Women's Literature Festival, which she ran for eight years
References
Bodies Under Siege: How the Far-Right Attack on Reproductive Rights Went Global by Siân Norris
Experiments in Imagining Otherwise by Lola Olufemi
Racism, Birth Control and Reproductive Rights by Angela Davis
Voyage in the Dark by Jean Rhys
Happening by Annie Ernaux
As always, visit Storysmith for 10% discount on Siân's work.

027 Preti Taneja: On Radical Doubt and Radical Hope
In this episode, we speak to Preti Taneja about her brilliant book, Aftermath. We discuss the ways in which individual actions are mapped onto societal, national and global histories and inequalities. We consider the paradoxical limits of language and writing to articulate grief, as well as a return to other radical writers and thinkers. We discuss the oppression of the prison industrial complex system and its relationship to racism within the UK education system. We speak about the use of shame to denigrate marginalised people and the erasure of colonial and imperial history within schools. We discuss the role of fictions, both within literature and within society, and the ways in which particular narratives have the potential to imprison or empancipate people. We consider the gatekeeping within contemporary literary culture and wonder what literature could look like in a more equitable world.
Preti Taneja is a writer and activist. Her debut novel We That Are Young (Galley Beggar Press, 2017) won the Desmond Elliott Prize for the finest literary debut novel of the year and was listed for awards including the Folio Prize, the Shakti Bhatt First Book Prize and the Prix Jan Michalski, Europe's premier award for a work of world literature. Her second book, Aftermath (And Other Stories, 2021) won the Gordon Burn Prize in 2022 and was a New Yorker notable book, a New Yorker best book of the year, a White Review book of the year, New Statesman book of the year in 2021 and in 2022, and shortlisted for British Book of the Year - Discover. Her writing has been published in The White Review, the Guardian, Vogue India, the New Statesman, Granta, INQUE and in anthologies of short stories, essays, literary criticism and prose poetry. She has taught writing in prisons, worked with arts practitioners around the world mediating their own conflict and post conflict zones, and with young people across deprived parts of the UK who want to get published. She is Professor of World Literature and Creative Writing at Newcastle University, and Director of the Newcastle Centre for the Literary Arts (NCLA). In 2022 Preti was named winner of the prestigious Philip Leverhulme Prize in Languages and Literatures 'for her work on combining ethics, politics and aesthetics; developing pioneering hybrid creative forms, including via literary prose to advocate for minority rights.' She is a Contributing Editor for The White Review magazine, and for the multi-award winning independent press And Other Stories, for which she accepts submissions of full manuscripts.
References
We That Are Young by Preti Taneja
Aftermath by Preti Taneja
Axiomatic by Maria Tumarkin
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026 Bhanu Kapil: On Monsters and Cyborgs
In this episode, we have the privilege of speaking to the very brilliant Bhanu Kapil about the UK publication of her collection Incubation: a space for monsters. We discuss what it means to return to earlier work in new contexts, and why the figure of the monster or cyborg is so crucial to her work, in relation to migration and border politics. We chat about the role of the body within her work, and the language of flesh and bones. We discuss the relationship between performance, writing and memory and what it means to make work which refuses categorisation.
Bhanu Kapil is the author of six full-length poetry collections and a recipient of a Windham- Campbell Prize and a Cholmondeley Award. Her most recent book, How To Wash A Heart, won the T.S. Eliot Prize and was a Poetry Book Society Choice. For twenty years, she taught creative writing, performance art and contemplative practice at Naropa University in Boulder, Colorado. She is currently based in Cambridge as a Fellow of Churchill College. She also teaches for the University of Vermont’s Rubenstein School of Environment and Natural Resources, as part of a practice- based Ph.D. in Transdisciplinary Leadership and Creativity for Sustainability.
References
Incubation: a space for monsters by Bhanu Kapil
Humanimal: A Project for Future Children by Bhanu Kapil
entre-Ban by Bhanu Kapil
The Vertical Interrogation of Strangers by Bhanu Kapil
Schizophrene by Bhanu Kapil
Ban en Banlieue by Bhanu Kapil
How to Wash a Heart by Bhanu Kapil
Plot by Claudia Rankine
Jack Kerouac School of Disembodied Poetics
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025 Polly Barton: Porn: An Oral History
In this week's episode, we chat to writer and Japanese translator Polly Barton about her new book Porn: An Oral History. We discuss the necessity of sitting with discomfort and ambivalence and the role of unknowingness within a divided contemporary society. We speak about he nature of oral histories and the links between translation and transcription. We consider the importance of intergenerational conversation, as well as the role of nuance, contradiction and sensitivity within non-fiction. We consider what it means to leave space for desire and pleasure within discourse on sex and gender and think about Pamela Paul's notion of the pornification of society under capitalism.
Polly Barton is a writer and Japanese translator based in Bristol. In 2019, she won the Fitzcarraldo Editions Essay Prize and her debut book, Fifty Sounds, a personal dictionary of the Japanese language, was published in the UK by Fitzcarraldo Editions in 2021. In 2022, Fifty Sounds was shortlisted for the 2022 Stanford Dolman Travel Book of the Year. Her translations have featured in Granta, Catapult, The White Review and Words Without Borders and her full length translations include Spring Garden by Tomoka Shibasaki (Pushkin Press), Where the Wild Ladies Are by Aoko Matsuda (Tilted Axis Press/Soft Skull), which was shortlisted for the Ray Bradbury Prize, and There’s No Such Thing as an Easy Job by Kikuko Tsumura (Bloomsbury). Her new book, Porn: An Oral History, was published by Fitzcarraldo Editions (UK) in March 2023 and is forthcoming from La Nave di Teseo in Italy.
References
Porn: An Oral History by Polly Barton
Fifty Sounds by Polly Barton
Uses of the Erotic by Audre Lorde
Pornified: How Pornography is Transforming Our Lives, Our Relationships and Our Families by Pamela Paul

024 Ellena Savage: Anti-Memoir
In this episode, we speak to author and essayist Ellena Savage. We discuss hierarchies of power within the arts and the precarity of writing for a living, as well as what it means to work both within and in opposition to literary and academic institutions. We address ideas of consumption and capitalism, as well as the dream of a classless society which makes space for beauty and pleasure. We explore the experimental essay form as a means of capturing the fractured nature of memory and time, and the subversion of catalogues and archives as a feminist tool. We discuss what it means to write 'memoir' or 'anti-memoir' and the intersection of these ideas with gender and social class. We also chat about complex notions of home and belonging, amidst gentification and colonial histories.
Ellena Savage's debut essay collection, Blueberries, was published by Text Publishing and Scribe UK in 2020. It was shortlisted for the 2021 VPLA and long-listed for the Stella Prize. She has written essays, stories and poems for Sydney Review of Books, Paris Review Daily, Literary Hub, Meanjin, Overland, Cordite, Mirror Lamp Press, Kill Your Darlings,The Big Issue Fiction Edition and The Lifted Brow (where she was an editor). She has also written for periodicals such asThe Age, Guardian Weekend and Eureka Street, where she wrote a monthly cultural politics column between 2011-2016, and in the anthologies Open Secrets (2021), The Cambridge History of the American Essay (forthcoming), Choice Words (2019), The Best of the Lifted Brow: Volume Two (2017), Poetic Justice (2014), and The Emerging Writer (2013). She has written for gallery and performance contexts via Darebin City Council, Melbourne Chamber Orchestra, and ArtsHouse. She also published a chapbook, Yellow City with The Atlas Review in 2019.
References
Blueberries by Ellena Savage
Little Throbs (newsletter) by Ellena Savage
Memnoir by Joan Retellack (Chain #7: Memoir/Anti-Memoir edited by Jena Osman and Juliana Spahr)
Crabcakes: A Memoir by James Alan McPherson
Poetry is not a Luxury by Audre Lorde
As always, visit Storysmith for 10% discount on Ellena's work.

023 Nuar Alsadir: Living Hotter
In this episode, we speak to Nuar Alsadir about her essay, Animal Joy. We discuss the radical possibilities of laughter, the connections between writing and psychoanalysis and the psychoanalytic notion of our 'true' and 'false' selves. We chat about living 'hotter' and being 'more' in the face of a society which often asks us to diminish ourselves in order to conform to social scripts. We talk about the role of the clown within this society and the disruptive nature of poetry. We think about what it means to put unconscious and bodily experiences into writing, through the lens of Nuar's second poetry collection, Fourth Person Singular.
Nuar Alsadir writes poetry and nonfiction. She is the author of the nonfiction book, Animal Joy: A Book of Laughter and Resuscitation, and two poetry collections, most recently Fourth Person Singular, a finalist for the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry and the Forward Prize for Best Collection. She lives in New York where she works as a psychoanalyst in private practice.
References
Fourth Person Singular by Nuar Alsadir
More Shadow than Bird by Nuar Alsadir
Winnicott's theory of true and false selves
L'École Internationale de Théâtre Jacques Lecoq
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022 Joelle Taylor: Social Surrealism
In this episode, we chat to author, performer and poet Joelle Taylor. We speak about the process of translating page to stage and the juxtaposition of social realism with surreal imagery in the articulation of complex tensions around class, gender and sexuality. We discuss the rebel butch dyke community of the 80s and 90s, the queer club as a place of resistance and the destruction of these spaces by gentrification. We talk about poetry as grieving ritual and the necessity of reclaiming allyship and communality within the LGBTQIA+ community (and beyond) in an age of division and toxic internet culture. We speak about the body as a site of metamorphosis and the relationship between language and flesh.
Joelle Taylor is an award-winning poet and author who prior to the pandemic completed a world tour with her collection Songs My Enemy Taught Me. She founded SLAMbassadors, the UK national youth poetry slam championships, as well as the international spoken-word project Borderlines. She is widely anthologised, the author of 4 collections of poetry and is currently completing her debut collection of inter-connecting short stories The Night Alphabet. Her new poetry collection C+NTO & Othered Poems was published in June 2021 and is the subject of the Radio 4 arts documentary Butch. C+nto won the T.S Eliot Prize in 2021, The Polari Prize in 2022 and was named by The Telegraph, the New Statesman, The White Review & Times Literary Supplement as one of the best poetry books of 2021, as well as DIVA magazine’s Book of the Month, and awarded 5 stars by the Morning Star. She has received a Changemaker Award from the Southbank Centre, a Fellowship of the RSA, and her poem Valentine was Highly Commended in the Forward Prize. She is a co-curator and host of Out- Spoken Live, the UK’s premier poetry and music club currently resident at the Southbank Centre. She is the commissioning editor at Out-Spoken Press 2020-2022.
References:
The Night Alphabet (forthcoming from Riverrun Books) by Joelle Taylor
C+nto and Othered Poems (2021) by Joelle Taylor
Songs My Enemy Taught me (2017) by Joelle Taylor
The Woman Who Was Not There (2014) by Joelle Taylor
Ska Tissue (2014) by Joelle Taylor

021 Rebecca May Johnson: Pleasure as Power
In this episode, we chat to author and essayist Rebecca May Johnson about what it means to bring critical ideas into the everyday. We discuss the radical potential of the recipe as a tool for performance and intergenerational exchange. We speak about the abjection of bodies by capitalist society and reclaiming pleasure as a means of feminist praxis. We discuss the isolation rendered by the privatisation of public spaces and the necessity for communal ways to gather and eat together. We chat about the ways in which theory can neglect visceral experience and the recipe as a living text which anchors us to our bodies and the world.
Rebecca May Johnson has published essays, reviews and nonfiction with Granta, Times Literary Supplement, Daunt Books Publishing and Vittles, among others. She was a creative writing fellow at the British School at Rome in 2021. She earned a PhD in Contemporary German Literature from UCL in 2016.She also uses online publishing to conduct stylistic experiments: her essay ‘I Dream of Canteens’ was published via TinyLetter and gained widespread acclaim, winning ‘The Browser’ prize for the best piece on the internet in April 2019. Her anonymous waitressing series was voted in the Observer Food Monthly ‘Top 50’ of 2018. She was finalist in the ‘Young British Foodies’ writing prize judged by Marina O’Loughlin and Yotam Ottolenghi. She publishes a newsletter called dinner document where she shares recipes and thoughts about food every week. Small Fires is her first book.
References
Small Fires by Rebecca May Johnson
I dream of Canteens by Rebecca May Johnson
Dinner Document by Rebecca May Johnson
Vittles newsletter
Abolish the Family by Sophie Lewis
Zami: A New Spelling of my Name by Audre Lorde
The Odyssey translated by Emily Wilson

020 Travis Alabanza: Beyond the Gender Binary
In this episode, we chat to the award-winning writer, performer and theatre-maker Travis Alabanza about their non-fiction book on trans and non-binary identity, None of the Above. We discuss what it means to write anti-memoir, in relation to making work from a working-class, gender non-conforming perspective. We chat about what it means to claim your own narrative and how to write a theoretical text that is accessible outside of academia, as well as the necessity of artists' engagement with the communites around them. We talk about the process of moving from stage to page and the radical power of performance to create a temporary space where rules are suspended, giving us a glimmer of freedom.
References
Burgerz by Travis Alabanza
None of the Above by Travis Alabanza
The Transgender Issue by Shon Faye
As always, visit Storysmith for 10% discount on Travis' work.

019 Jessica Andrews: Milk Teeth Live Special @ Storysmith Books
In this special episode of Tender Buttons — the last of Season 2 — we share a live conversation between Jessica Andrews and Samantha Walton, recorded at the launch of Jessica's new novel Milk Teeth at Storysmith Books in Bristol.
Milk Teeth follows the story of a girl grows up in the north-east of England amid scarcity, precarity and a toxic culture of bodily shame, certain that she must make herself ever smaller to be loved.
Years later, living in tiny rented rooms and working in noisy bars across London and Paris, she fights to create her own life. She meets someone who cracks her open and offers her a new way to experience the world. But when he invites her to join him in Barcelona, the promise of pleasure and care makes her uneasy. In the shimmering heat of the Mediterranean, she faces the possibility of a different existence, and must choose what to hold on to from her past.
How do we learn to take up space? Why might we deny ourselves good things? Milk Teeth is a story of desire and the body, shame and joy.
'Milk Teeth spills over with care, truth and desire. Andrews makes the case for a life lived abundantly and ardently, full of sensation and pleasure, risk and safety' Yara Rodrigues Fowler'
Milk Teeth by Jessica Andrews (Sceptre: 2022)
Saltwater by Jessica Andrews (Sceptre 2019)
Melissa Febos, Body Work (Manchester University Press: 2022)- and you can listen to our recent episode with Melissa here
Samantha Walton Everybody Needs Beauty (Bloomsbury: 2021)- check out our previous episode with Samantha here
Helene Cixous, The Laugh of the Medusa
Eimear McBride, The Lesser Bohemians (Faber: 2016)
Andrea Ashworth, Once in a House on Fire (Picador: 2014)
Kim Ji-young, Born 1982 (Scribner: 2020)

018 Melissa Febos: Writing the Body
In this episode, we discuss what it means to write through the body with memoirist Melissa Febos. We speak about the power of articulation as a radical tool for feminist and queer liberation and the need to break away from the narratives we are handed by patriarchal society in an attempt to forge our own maps. We talk about the practicalities of writing memoir as a public archive of the self and the existence of multiple truths and perspectives within a narrative. We address the process of writing trauma and the political and personal implications of writing from lived experience.
References
Whip Smart by Melissa Febos
Abandon Me by Melissa Febos
Girlhood by Melissa Febos
Body Work by Melissa Febos
Uses of the Erotic by Audre Lorde
Listen for a 10% discount code on Melissa's work at Storysmith books.

017 Moses McKenzie: On Morality, Religion and Finding Space
In this episode, we discuss morality, religion and how to find space between conflicting social codes. We discuss the relationship between possibility, choice and criminality and the intersection of class and race in contemporary Bristol. We chat about what it means to write about a place that is not widely represented in fiction and developing a literary voice through hip-hop, grime and the Bible. We explore the potential of the novel to spark political change and the role of artistic responsibility.
References
An Olive Grove in Ends by Moses McKenzie
Bristol Cable interview with Moses McKenzie

016 Yara Rodrigues Fowler: The Revolutionary Novel
In this episode, we chat to Yara Rodrigues Fowler about the possibilites of the revolutionary novel. We speak about the potential of art as a driving force for change in the world, providing a space to desire beyond the borders of neoliberalism, imperialism and patriarchy. We talk about the ways in which novels can hold multiple dimensions of time and space and the role of formal experimentation and translation. We also discuss queer families and sisterhood and the ways in which these relationships might act as a 'little communism' of love, hinting at the possibilities of a world which is more free. We talk about the experience of writing and releasing a second novel and how to move through the publishing world while staying true to your own ideals. Yara's new novel, There Are More Things is published on 28th April.
References
There Are More Things by Yara Rodrigues Fowler
Stubborn Archivist by Yara Rodrigues Fowler
Listen for a 10% discount code on Yara's books at Storysmith books.

015 Lola Olufemi: The Radical Power of Imagination
In this episode, we chat to Lola Olufemi about the radical potential of imagination. We speak about the relationship between theory and lived experience and how to deconstruct linear narratives of history and time. We talk about the possibilites language and art can bring to political movements and revolutionary ideas, as well as their limitations. We discuss how to move beyond the trappings of crisis and the importance of re-discovering play, both in writing and in our communities. We explore the role of collaboration within art and the reconfiguration of history as a kind of process which is constantly being re-made, through ancestral connection and the reanimation of archives.
References:
A FLY Girls' Guide to University by Lola Olufemi, Odelia Younge, Waithera Sebatindira, Suhaiymah Manzoor-Khan
Feminism Interrupted by Lola Olufemi
Experiments in Imagining Otherwise by Lola Olufemi
Poetics of Relation by Edouard Glissant
Dialogic Imagination by Mikhail Bakhtin
As a Tender Buttons listener you can get 10% discount on Lola's work at Storysmith Books. Listen to the episode for more details and then head to our page on the Storysmith website: storysmithbooks.com/tenderbuttons

014 Max Porter: Hybrid Forms
In our first episode of Season Two, we chat to the inimitable Max Porter about pushing the limits of language, the role of art in ritual and collective experience and a search for joy within the mundane. We discuss the relationship between novel and stage, as well as the dichotomies of guilt and shame, care and kindness and humour as a form of resilience in a changing world. We talk about Max's desire to 'capture the pulse of feeling' in his book The Death of Francis Bacon and explore how to reinstate ritual in the ways we relate to landscape and the nonhuman world. We talk about writing as a mode of time travel and mourning as a kind of love.
As a Tender Buttons listener you can get 10% discount on Max's work at Storysmith Books. Listen to the episode for more details and then head to our page on the Storysmith website: storysmithbooks.com/tenderbuttons
REFERENCES:
Time Lived Without its Flow by Denise Riley
Grief is the Thing with Feathers by Max Porter
The Death of Francis Bacon by Max Porter

013 Samantha Walton: On Land Justice, Collective Wellbeing and Nature for Everyone
In this final episode of 2021 and our first season we chat to poet and academic Samantha Walton about democratising nature and landscape writing; green deprivation and the policing of green spaces and the dangers of individualised neoliberal 'nature cures', as discussed in her recent book Everybody Needs Beauty: In Search of the Nature Cure (Bloomsbury: 2021). We speak about the need to carve out space for grief amongst the climate crisis, how to emasculate mountain literature via Nan Shepherd and the space that poetry allows for articulating ambiguity and discomfort, as found in Samantha's hallucinatory poetic sequence Bad Moon (SPAM Press: 2020).
As a Tender Buttons listener you can get 10% discount on Samantha's book at Storysmith Books, listen in for more details and then head to our page on the Storysmith website: storysmithbooks.com/tenderbuttons
References:
Everybody Needs Beauty: In Search of the Nature Cure (Bloomsbury:2021)
Bad Moon (SPAM Press: 2020)
Self-Heal (Boiler-House Press: 2018)
The Living Mountain by Nan Shepherd (Canongate)
Samantha is also co-editor of Bristol-based small press SAD Press, whose work you can check out here.

012 Jo Hamya: Myths of Meritocracy
In this episode, we chat to author Jo Hamya about her brilliant novel, Three Rooms. We discuss her subversion of the bildungsroman narrative in order to interrogate the myth of linear progress and what it means to grow up in the wake of Blairism and the 2007-8 financial crash. We speak about the ways in which people might live in proximity to the upper echelons of society and yet never truly enter privileged spaces as a consequence of class, gender, race and politics. Through the lens of Brexit, Trump, Grenfell and the housing crisis, amidst soaring wealth inequality, Jo addresses the myth of meritocracy in contemporary Britain and interrogates the effects of social media upon our psyches. We chat about the notion of patriotism, the commodification of protest, the struggle to take up space in the modern metropolis and what it really means to inhabit a room of one's own in contemporary Britain.
References:
Outline trilogy by Rachel Cusk
As a Tender Buttons listener you can get 10% discount on Jo's book at Storysmith Books, listen in for more details and then head to our page on the Storysmith website: storysmithbooks.com/tenderbuttons
Our theme music is a sample from Flotation by Ben Vince from his album The Purge.

011 Caleb Parkin: On Queer Ecologies
In this episode, we talk to Bristol City Poet Caleb Parkin about taxonomies, ecophrastic poems and the historical exclusion of LGBTQIA+ people from environmental movements and access to nature. We chat about the way our sense of 'nature' is always mediated through culture and the need for irreverence and irony to offset the self-righteousness that can be associated with climate activism. We discuss how queer perspectives can alter the conversation around climate justice and the need for us to sit with uncertainty and unknowingness.
Caleb's dazzling, slippery poetry collection - This Fruiting Body - is out now from Nine Arches Press.
As a Tender Buttons listener you can get 10% discount on Caleb's book at Storysmith Books, listen in for more details and then head to our page on the Storysmith website: storysmithbooks.com/tenderbuttons
References
This Fruiting Body by Caleb Parkin
Wasted Rainbow by Caleb Parkin
Emergent Strategy by adrienne maree brown
Hiddenness, Uncertainty, Surprise by Jane Hirshfield
Our theme music is a sample from Flotation by Ben Vince from his album The Purge.

010 Nikesh Shukla: Joy as an Act of Resistance
In today's episode we chat to the brilliant Nikesh Shukla about his recent fatherhood memoir Brown Baby. We talk about how to navigate racism and sexism while raising children, the ways in which grief distorts time, subverting the traditional memoir form, representation within publishing, the radical history of Bristol, finding joy and hope in a difficult world and how to contribute to political change in our everyday lives.
REFERENCES
Brown Baby by Nikesh Shukla
Run, Riot by Nikesh Shukla
Coconut Unlimited by Nikesh Shukla
The One Who Wrote Destiny by Nikesh Shukla
The Boxer by Nikesh Shukla
The Good Immigrant edited by Nikesh Shukla
Rife: Twenty-One Stories from Britain's Youth edited by Nikesh Shukla
What is Race? Who Are Racists? And Why Does Skin Colour Matter? by Nikesh Shukla and Clare Heuchan
Nikesh's Writing Tips Newsletter
As a Tender Buttons listener you can get 10% discount on Nikesh's books at Storysmith Books, listen in for more details and then head to our page on the Storysmith website: storysmithbooks.com/tenderbuttons

009 Jenn Ashworth: Presence, Absence and Finding the Right Form
In this episode, we chat to novelist, memoirist and academic Jenn Ashworth, about her new novel Ghosted (Sceptre: 2021), a brilliant, unconventional blend of crime fiction and horror to find a form that can hold grief, loss and the myriad of ways in which people can go missing. We speak about the complexity and multi-layered dimensions of working class identities, from work to family to notions of belonging, as well as the challenges of writing trauma in both fiction and non-fiction.
As a Tender Buttons listener you can get 10% discount on Jenn's books at Storysmith Books, listen in for more details and then head to our page on the Storysmith website: storysmithbooks.com/tenderbuttons
Ghosted by Jenn Ashworth (Sceptre: 2021)
Notes Made While Falling by Jenn Ashworth (Goldsmiths: 2019)

008 Zakiya Mckenzie: Collective Memory, Decolonising the Archives and Wandering the Woods
In this episode we chat to Bristol-based writer and researcher Zakiya Mckenzie about decolonising the archives, collective memory and the histories of plants and their relationship to the histories of people. We discuss the inextricable links between land in England and Jamaica and the need for more radical and decolonial ways of mapping stories, land and time than the models left to us by the horrors of empire, as explored in Zakiya's recent pamphlet Testimonies on the History of Jamaica, Vol. 1 (out now with Rough Trade Books).
You can buy a selection of Zakiya’s work from Storysmith with a 10% discount, tune in to the episode to find out more.
Testimonies on the History of Jamaica, Vol 1 by Zakiya Mckenzie (Rough Trade Pamphlets: 2021)
A collection of Zakiya's writing as Writer-in-Residence with the Forestry Commission can be found here.
A Chapter in Women on Nature, ed. Katharine Norbury (Unbound: 2021)
A Chapter in The Wild Isles Anthology, ed. Patrick Barkham (Head of Zeus: 2021)
Her BBC4 Production on the Forest of Dean, can be found here.
Dennis Potter: The Art of the Invective, Selected Non-Fiction 1953-1994 (Bloomsbury: 2015) & his classic TV Series 'Singing Detective' and 'Pennies from Heaven'

007 Rebecca Tamás: Poetry as Magic, Witches and the Non-Human
In this episode, we chat to poet and essayist Rebecca Tamás about the figure of the witch, the power of language to manifest change in the world and poetry as a way to speak with not for voices that have been silenced throughout history. We talk about the role of awe and emotion in forging a deeper relationship with the non-human world, climate grief, the loss of language and the impact of late capitalism on our psyches, bodies and planet.
You can buy Rebecca's books from Storysmith with a 10% discount, check out the episode to find out more.
References
Witch by Rebecca Tamás (Penned in the Margins: 2019)
Strangers by Rebecca Tamás (Makina Books: 2020)
Spells: 21st Century Occult Poetry Ed. Rebecca Tamás, So Mayer and Sarah Shin (Ignota Books: 2018)
Other References
Timothy Morton: Being Ecological (MIT Press: 2019)
Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer (Milkweed Editions: 2013)
Illuminations by Walter Benjamin

006 Ren Aldridge of Petrol Girls: Cut, Stitch, Make, Do
In this episode we talk to Ren Aldridge, artist, writer and singer in feminist post-hardcore band Petrol Girls about the intersection of her art and politics. We chat about the DIY punk practice of passing the mic, learning by doing, zine culture, the power and limitations of anger & more.
If you would like to donate to the Solidarity not Silence campaign, to help raise funds for women facing a defamation claim from a man in the music industry for statements they made concerning his treatment of women, you can do so here or buy the Petrol Girls track, I Believe Them, here. Solidarity not Silence are also dropping a new single on 4th May via Alcopop Records - This Is Sisterhood. For updates on this follow the Solidarity not Silence Twitter here.
References
- Petrol Girls bandcamp
- Solidarity not Silence
- Ren's Website
- Cut and Stitch by Ren Aldridge
- MWMW#2 by Ren Aldridge
- Nasty Women Anthology
- Rebecca Solnit
- Sara Ahmed
- When Species Meet by Donna Haraway
- Poly Styrene: I am a Cliche documentary
- So, Which Band is Your Boyfriend In? documentary by Suzy Harrison
- Riot Grrrl: The Punk Singer documentary by Sini Anderson
- Writers, Protect Your Inner Life by Lan Samantha Chang
Songs featured in episode:
- Sister. Future is Dark EP
- Big Mouth. Cut & Stitch
- Strike. Future is Dark EP
- Touch Me Again. Live recording, L'Olympic Café, Paris, 2018.

005 Kerri ní Dochartaigh: Thin Places
In this episode we chat to writer Kerri ní Dochartaigh about her new book Thin Places (Canongate) and its powerful weaving of memoir, history, Irish folklore, language and nature writing. We discuss her childhood growing up in Derry amidst the Troubles, the necessity of expanding our kinship with the non-human world and the ways in which a new generation of writers of landscape are blazing open the field.
You can find Kerri's book at storysmithbooks.com/tenderbuttons.
As a Tender Buttons listener you can also get 10% discount, listen in for more details on this...
Episode References
- Manchán Mangan, Thirty-Two Worlds for Field: Lost Words of the Irish Landscape (Gill:2020)
- The Willowherb Review, edited by Jessica J. Lee (whose most recent book, 'Two Trees Make a Forest' is here)
- Robin Wall Kimmerer, Braiding Sweetgrass (Penguin, 2020)
- Kerri's Pocket Guide to Nature Writing with Spread the Word
- Lauret Savoy, Trace: History, Race and the American Landscape (Catapult: 2015)
- Nina Mingya Powles, Small Bodies of Water is forthcoming August 2021 (Canongate)
- Rebecca Tamás, Strangers: Essays on the Human and Non-Human (Makina Books: 2020)
- BBC documentary ‘Tidal Sense’ with Signe Lidén

004 Joff Winterhart: The Poetry of the Mundane
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In the first of our Bristol-based episodes, we speak to graphic novelist, musician, educator and all-round local legend Joff Winterhart about the poetry of the mundane, the hinterlands of suburbs and industrial estates, crises in contemporary masculinity and Joff's use of the graphic form.
Joff's graphic novels are Days of the Bagnold Summer (2012) and Driving Short Distances ( 2017). You can find both of Joff's books at storysmithbooks.com/tenderbuttons. As a Tender Buttons listener you can purchase Joff's books with 10% discount, have a listen for more details on this...
Joff's band Bucky can be found here: https://buckytheband.bandcamp.com/
Other References:
Lynda Barry's comics are One! Hundred! Demons! (2002), What It Is (2008) and Cruddy (1999) (amongst many others)

003 Huw Lemmey: Flesh, Meat and Fighting the Guerrilla Culture War
We chat to writer Huw Lemmey about queer desire, shame, a politics of bodily love and ways to fight the British culture war.
References:
You can subscribe to Huw’s weekly essays on his ‘Utopian Drivel’ substack here: huw.substack.com
His two novels are Chubz: The Demonization of My Working Arse (Montrez Press: 2014) and Red Tory: My Corbyn Chemsex Hell (Montrez: 2019)
His Bad Gays Podcast, with co-host Ben Miller: badgayspod.podbean.com
Other References: Richard Scott Soho (Faber: 2018) Jean Genet Thief’s Journal (1949)

002 Catherine Madden: Slippery Desires
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We chat to Catherine Madden about form, sexuality and childhood.
You can follow Catherine on twitter @CatherineEMIMad and her website:catherinemadden.org/

001 Jessica Andrews: It Begins With Our Bodies
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We speak to co-host Jessica Andrews about her debut novel, Saltwater.
References: Saltwater by Jessica Andrews (Sceptre: 2019)