
The Focus
By Team Novavi

The FocusAug 28, 2022

The Focus Episode 32: Erich Bühler Interview
In which we interview Erich Bühler
We discuss:
- Leading Exponential Change
- The impact of the neurochemistry of cortisol
- Kelly McGonigal's TED talk on How to make stress your friend
- Detecting organisational stress
- Techniques for reducing stress, like breath-work, physical workouts, cold and heat exposure
- Susan David's Emotional Agility
- Celebrating when we notice holding inaccurate ideas
- The trials and tribulations of interactions with people that have psychopathic habits
- The Huberman Lab podcast
- The Enterprise Agility World Conference - enjoy the discount code THEFOCUS for your registration
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The Focus Episode 31: Linda Rising Interview
In which we interview Linda Rising
We discuss:
- Effective ways of introducing new ideas, discovered through much struggle
- Fearless Change
- More Fearless Change
- Telling stories that involve people emotionally
- Attempting big change is usually unsustainable. Instead, growing ideas and approaches together organically works much better.
- We cannot take everyone with us. For any new idea, there will be champions and early adopters, but there will be laggards as well.
- What genuine diversity is about
- Braver Angels
- Daniel Kahneman's Thinking Fast and Slow
- Jonathan Haidt's Happiness Hypothesis
- Menlo Innovations
- Building trust by sharing food together
- The ease with which we get divided into groups, and yet we all overestimate the number of nickels in a jar
- The miracle of agape
- Embracing both the early adopters and the laggards
- Choosing worthy targets
- Dealing with ego
- The magic of hope
- Suzanne Simard's Finding the Mother Tree
- Peter Wohlleben's The Hidden Life of Trees
- Linda's intentions as a Mother Tree for us
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The Focus Episode 30: Tony Ponton Interview
In which we interview Tony Ponton
We discuss:
- The three-speed economy
- Transformation or transition?
- How do we fund agility?
- Understanding organisations and "Undercover Boss"
- Recreating watercoolers online for their social benefits
- Measuring for outcomes rather than outputs
- The Remote:af agility framework
- Setting up home offices for healthy remote working
- Crafting teams as if for planning a heist
- Virtual Obeya rooms
- The Responsibility Process by Christopher Avery
- Finding the right person to get help from, in a distributed and dispersed environment
- Rewarding courage
- Genuine collaboration in leadership teams
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The Focus Episode 29: Renata Barcelos Interview
In which we interview Renata Barcelos
We discuss:
- Learning every day
- The dynamics of family businesses in Brazil and dealing with succession
- Pragmatic approaches to innovation
- The need for ambidexterity in modern business
- Leading from the future
- Being wary of people that are 100% certain
- How competence builds confidence
- Sense making and OKR networks
- The 4 stages of psychological safety
- The OODA loop, double-loop learning and changing goals
- Leadership is language
- Studying culture and embracing vulnerability
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The Focus Episode 28: Angus Muir Interview
In which we interview Angus Muir
We discuss:
- Going from "this is crazy" to "wow, this works"
- Being wary of Value Stream diagrams that are too pretty
- Overcoming "not my problem"-syndrome and learned helplessness
- Patterns of lean-agile leadership
- The lessons of the marshmallow tower TED talk, and developing the "assassination skills" to stop throwing good money after bad and pivot initiatives.
- Overcoming arrogance by creating clear accountability to our ultimate customers
- Noticing and adjusting for bias
- "Building bridges is a messy business; sometimes you have to deal with the mud"
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The Focus Episode 27: Clarke Ching
In which we interview Clarke Ching
We discuss:
- The Theory of Constraints
- Dollarising the prize
- Pre-crastination and procrastination
- The Ikea effect
- Test-first thinking
- The curse of excellence
- Being busy mistaken for productivity
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The Focus Episode 26: Shane Gibson Interview
In which we interview Shane Gibson
We discuss:
- Making good decisions and sequencing work
- Data quality
- Frameworks and paywalls
- The necessity of context sensitivity - adapting practice guides to the local situation, iterate and experiment
- Using words that make more sense
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The Focus Episode 25: Ziaan Hattingh Interview
In which we interview Ziaan Hattingh
We discuss:
- Creative tension
- Tailoring rewards
- Strong teams
- Abstraction and frameworks
- Toxic cultures
- David Marquet's Intent-Based Leadership
- Stanley McChrystal's Team of Teams
- Seth Godin's The Practice
- Hiring for capability
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The Focus Episode 24: Andreas Drechsler Interview
In which we interview Andreas Drechsler
We discuss:
- Organising for fluidity and change
- Hype and management fashions
- How languages shape how we see the world
- The nature of value
- Architectural thinking - a holistic view across the organisation and its partners
- Sensing at speed
- Ambidextrous organisations - explore and exploit in balanced measure
- Struggles with value streams and value networks
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The Focus Episode 23: Samuel Crescêncio Interview
In which we interview Samuel Crescêncio
We discuss:
- Structure & flow, organically evolving structures
- Creating virtual gembas (the actual places of work)
- Tips and tricks for visual management in remote working
- Building trust, leading by example
- Inner pressure from a common purpose
- Gratitude and changes of perspective
- The Obstacle is The Way
- Practicing curiosity
- Mary & Tom Poppendieck
- Opening spaces for change, and The Art of Holding Space
- The Lean Pyramid
- Sooner Safer Happier
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The Focus Episode 22: Johan Steyn Interview
In which we interview Johan Steyn
We discuss:
- Why do so many incompetent men become leaders (and how to fix it)
- K-waves or economic super-cycles
- Sapiens, the "useless class", and dystopia, utopia or something else?
- The hypothesis that "all sentiences are created equal"
- Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey
- How civilisation is quite thin, and we're only a few missed meals away from a riot. Hunger and privation are powerful motivators
- The Truman Show and how people accept the realities they are presented with
- The Theories of Everything podcast
- The original meaning of "blessed are the meek" Matthew 5:5
- How we are excellent procrastinators
- The New Human Movement
- Corporate Rebels
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The Focus Episode 21: Scott Ambler Interview
In which we interview Scott Ambler
We discuss:
- Agile modelling and agile data
- Short-termism
- Non-invasive data governance
- Truthfulness in work and data
- The Disciplined Agile governance process blade
- From PMO to VMO
- Multi-disciplinary governance tribes
- Value streams begin and continue through to the customer
- Rapid adaptation including customer feedback and the example of Zara
- Building relationships and automation of governance with a human touch (see also autonomation or jidoka)
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The Focus Episode 20: Shane Hastie Interview
In which we interview Shane Hastie
We discuss:
- Skills and titles
- Agile People
- #noprojects - A Culture of Continuous Value
- From Project to Product
- The code of ethical conduct for agile coaching
- Frederic Laloux's concept of teal organisations
- The Social Dilemma
- The Art of Holding Space
- Shane's upcoming book, The Rock Crusher - about a model for populating and managing product backlogs
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The Focus Episode 19: Alan Hesketh Interview
In which we interview Alan Hesketh
We discuss:
- How when we work better we enjoy life much better
- Alan's upcoming book "Start Fast. Achieving rapid impact from digital transformation"
- How the lessons of endurance swimming apply to leadership
- Making Work Visible
- The "Lemons and Roses award" idea
- John Boyd's OODA loop
- Paul O'Neill's keystone habits put into practice at Alcoa
- Beyond Budgeting
- Willful Blindness
- The Obstacle is the Way
- Management 3.0
- The Bureau of Sabotage and Jorj X. McKie
- Leadership is Language
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The Focus Episode 15: Joanne Stone Interview
In which we interview Joanne Stone
We discuss:
- What Wick'd Agile is about
- How getting fired as an Agile Coach triggers deep insight and professional growth
- How people experienced in practicing an agile mindset may band together and help in more communities - with an invitation to join us in the World Café Event on September 10th.
- The Agility Impact Community
- Unintended consequences, and the story of the Cats in Borneo
- Leadership agility
- The inspirational example of José Andrés and the World Central Kitchen
- Going from bickering to feeling like we belong
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The Focus Episode 18: Carlos Andrade Interview
In which we interview Carlos Andrade
We discuss:
- The value-add of effective leadership
- The necessity of disciplined training to develop effective skills
- How great leaders create great professionals in their organisations
- Vicious and virtuous cycles
- Daniel Kahneman's Thinking Fast and Slow
- The Inside the mind of a master procrastinator TED talk
- David Marquet's Intent-Based Leadership
- Jocko Willink's Extreme Ownership
- Corporate Rebels
- Humanocracy
- Steven Pinker
- Simon Sinek's Start with Why and Adam Grant's Think Again
- Stephen Covey's 7 Habits of Highly Effective People
- Hoshin Kanri or strategy deployment
- The role of the court jester
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The Focus Episode 17: Janet Gregory Interview
In which we interview Janet Gregory
We discuss:
- Changing the perception of quality
- The role of the tester into the future
- Overcoming stigma
- How we might get emotions to help us make better decisions
- Seeing our teams as extended families
- Beyond zero sum
- Doing the work to get the benefits
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The Focus Episode 16: Al Shalloway Interview
In which we interview Al Shalloway
We discuss:
- How logic isn't enough to achieve impact. An engaging conversation is essential.
- Cultivating empathy
- Echo chambers and how we might break out of them.
- Ways of dealing with complexity
- Systems Thinking and Russ Ackoff's "TED talk"
- How amazing instructors seem to be reading our minds
- Steve Tendon and The Book of TameFlow
- What makes a professional coach?
- Dealing with toxic cultures
- Stoicism and Ryan Holiday's work
- Trim tabs
- The Amplio community of practice
- Success Engineering
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The Focus Episode 14: Dr. Isabella Allan interview
In which we interview Dr. Isabella Allan and we discuss:
- Reading clues and cues
- Confirmation bias
- Network science and the need for social nodes
- Overcoming marginalisation
- Getting into flow together through song and rhythm
- Maintaining a shared context and discipline in group conversations
- Habit stacking
- Disruptors, dissenters and outliers
- The value of simulation and training for contingencies
- Thriving in an enduring crisis
Turn Talk Into Action: Harness the power of dialogue and collective decision-making
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The Focus Episode 13: Kiron Bondale interview
In which we interview Kiron Bondale
We discuss:
- Risk management
- Cognitive overload
- Reframing combatants into partners - beyond us and them
- Turning lessons into gold
- Seeing learning as another type of work
- The Peter Principle
- Noticing erosion and skills to stop wasteful initiatives
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The Focus Episode 12: Daniel Gagnon interview
In which we interview Daniel Gagnon and we discuss:
- Ego struggles
- People impervious to argument
- When do we get to toxicity?
- Left-shifting oversight
- The four stages of psychological safety
- Agency and organisational agility
- Rasputin coaching
- Anti-fragility
- Escaping zero-sum thinking - there's nothing that has more room than a full heart
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The Focus Episode 11: Dawie Olivier interview
In which we interview Dawie Olivier, and we discuss:
- Classic governance as a process of progressive disappointment
- How the underlying foundations of governance and control are flawed
- How we may learn to embrace auditors and devise competence-based controls
- Hubris and fear
- How we may energise change agents by setting them gently asmoulder
- The vital importance of belief in the possibility of becoming better
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The Focus Episode 10: Safety & Courage
In which Aldo and Horia explain what we found as we navigated the tension between safety and courage.
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The Focus Episode #9: Competence & Innovation - Part 3
In which Aldo and Horia explain:
- What we found as we navigated the tension between following the new rules and changing the rules - from the combined perspectives of both oversight and initiative professionals
- How this contributes to balancing the maintenance of competent capability with exploration and innovation
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The Focus Episode #8: Competence & Innovation - Part 2
In which Aldo and Horia explain:
- What we found as we navigated the tension between keeping things steady and inviting exploration - primarily form the perspective of the people involved in the work that creates value
- How this contributes to balancing the maintenance of competent capability with exploration and innovation
We are:
- Aldo Rall https://www.linkedin.com/in/aldorall/
- Horia Slușanschi https://www.linkedin.com/in/slusanschi/
- Gareth Holebrook https://www.linkedin.com/in/garethholebrook/
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The Focus Episode #7: Competence & Innovation - Part 1
In which Aldo and Horia explain:
- What we found as we navigated the tension between preserving the status quo and creating a better way of working - primarily form the perspective of the people involved in oversight activities
- How this contributes to balancing the maintenance of competent capability with exploration and innovation
We are:
- Aldo Rall https://www.linkedin.com/in/aldorall/
- Horia Slușanschi https://www.linkedin.com/in/slusanschi/
- Gareth Holebrook https://www.linkedin.com/in/garethholebrook/
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The Focus Episode #6: Optimise Utilisation & Optimise Flow
In which Aldo and Horia explain:
- What we found as we navigated the tension between optimising utilisation and optimising flow in an attempt to sustain a dynamic balance
We are:
- Aldo Rall https://www.linkedin.com/in/aldorall/
- Horia Slușanschi https://www.linkedin.com/in/slusanschi/
- Gareth Holebrook https://www.linkedin.com/in/garethholebrook/
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The Focus Podcast #5: Personal Interest & Organisational Purpose
In which Aldo and Horia explain:
- What we found as we navigated the tension between personal interest and organisational purpose in an attempt to sustain a dynamic balance
We are:
- Aldo Rall https://www.linkedin.com/in/aldorall/
- Horia Slușanschi https://www.linkedin.com/in/slusanschi/
- Gareth Holebrook https://www.linkedin.com/in/garethholebrook/
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The Focus Podcast #4: Iron & Agile Triangles
In which Aldo and Horia explain:
- What is the Iron Triangle
- What is the Agile Triangle
- What we found as we navigated the tension between the two triangles in an attempt to sustain a dynamic balance
We are:
Aldo Rall Horia Slușanschi Gareth Holebrook
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The Focus Podcast #3: Control & Trust
In which Aldo and Horia explain:
- What we discovered as we navigated the tension between Control and Trust in an attempt to sustain a dynamic balance
We are:
Aldo Rall Horia Slușanschi Gareth Holebrook
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The Focus Podcast #2: Overview of Adaptive Oversight
In which Aldo and Horia explain:
- What we mean by Adaptive Oversight
- How we navigate tension between polarities in order to sustain a dynamic balance
- The six main polarities that we use to make sense of Adaptive Oversight
We are:
Aldo Rall Horia Slușanschi Gareth Holebrook
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The Focus Podcast #1: Our intention with The Focus
In which Aldo and Horia explain:
- Why we're creating The Focus and why we named it this way;
- A bit about Adaptive Oversight and what to expect from this podcast;
- Our fundamental values and principles, and some expectations about how we will interact with our guests and audience.
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