
The Focus
By Team Novavi
We believe everyone can live their ikigai. We are passionate about renewing ways of work, better leadership and oversight.

The Focus Episode 30: Tony Ponton Interview
The Focus Episode 30: Tony Ponton Interview
The FocusOct 18, 2022
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The Focus Episode 32: Erich Bühler Interview
The Focus Episode 32: Erich Bühler Interview
In which we interview Erich Bühler
We discuss:
Leading Exponential Change
The impact of the neurochemistry of cortisol
Kelly McGonigal's TED talk on How to make stress your friend
Detecting organisational stress
Techniques for reducing stress, like breath-work, physical workouts, cold and heat exposure
Susan David's Emotional Agility
Celebrating when we notice holding inaccurate ideas
The trials and tribulations of interactions with people that have psychopathic habits
The Huberman Lab podcast
The Enterprise Agility World Conference - enjoy the discount code THEFOCUS for your registration
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Oct 20, 202201:18:20

The Focus Episode 31: Linda Rising Interview
The Focus Episode 31: Linda Rising Interview
In which we interview Linda Rising
We discuss:
Effective ways of introducing new ideas, discovered through much struggle
Fearless Change
More Fearless Change
Telling stories that involve people emotionally
Attempting big change is usually unsustainable. Instead, growing ideas and approaches together organically works much better.
We cannot take everyone with us. For any new idea, there will be champions and early adopters, but there will be laggards as well.
What genuine diversity is about
Braver Angels
Daniel Kahneman's Thinking Fast and Slow
Jonathan Haidt's Happiness Hypothesis
Menlo Innovations
Building trust by sharing food together
The ease with which we get divided into groups, and yet we all overestimate the number of nickels in a jar
The miracle of agape
Embracing both the early adopters and the laggards
Choosing worthy targets
Dealing with ego
The magic of hope
Suzanne Simard's Finding the Mother Tree
Peter Wohlleben's The Hidden Life of Trees
Linda's intentions as a Mother Tree for us
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Oct 20, 202201:29:25

The Focus Episode 30: Tony Ponton Interview
The Focus Episode 30: Tony Ponton Interview
In which we interview Tony Ponton
We discuss:
The three-speed economy
Transformation or transition?
How do we fund agility?
Understanding organisations and "Undercover Boss"
Recreating watercoolers online for their social benefits
Measuring for outcomes rather than outputs
The Remote:af agility framework
Setting up home offices for healthy remote working
Crafting teams as if for planning a heist
Virtual Obeya rooms
The Responsibility Process by Christopher Avery
Finding the right person to get help from, in a distributed and dispersed environment
Rewarding courage
Genuine collaboration in leadership teams
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Oct 18, 202201:24:01

The Focus Episode 29: Renata Barcelos Interview
The Focus Episode 29: Renata Barcelos Interview
In which we interview Renata Barcelos
We discuss:
Learning every day
The dynamics of family businesses in Brazil and dealing with succession
Pragmatic approaches to innovation
The need for ambidexterity in modern business
Leading from the future
Being wary of people that are 100% certain
How competence builds confidence
Sense making and OKR networks
The 4 stages of psychological safety
The OODA loop, double-loop learning and changing goals
Leadership is language
Studying culture and embracing vulnerability
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Sep 29, 202201:21:45

The Focus Episode 28: Angus Muir Interview
The Focus Episode 28: Angus Muir Interview
In which we interview Angus Muir
We discuss:
Going from "this is crazy" to "wow, this works"
Being wary of Value Stream diagrams that are too pretty
Overcoming "not my problem"-syndrome and learned helplessness
Patterns of lean-agile leadership
The lessons of the marshmallow tower TED talk, and developing the "assassination skills" to stop throwing good money after bad and pivot initiatives.
Overcoming arrogance by creating clear accountability to our ultimate customers
Noticing and adjusting for bias
"Building bridges is a messy business; sometimes you have to deal with the mud"
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Sep 28, 202201:23:57

The Focus Episode 27: Clarke Ching
The Focus Episode 27: Clarke Ching
In which we interview Clarke Ching
We discuss:
The Theory of Constraints
Dollarising the prize
Pre-crastination and procrastination
The Ikea effect
Test-first thinking
The curse of excellence
Being busy mistaken for productivity
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Sep 23, 202201:21:49

The Focus Episode 26: Shane Gibson Interview
The Focus Episode 26: Shane Gibson Interview
In which we interview Shane Gibson
We discuss:
Making good decisions and sequencing work
Data quality
Frameworks and paywalls
The necessity of context sensitivity - adapting practice guides to the local situation, iterate and experiment
Using words that make more sense
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Sep 15, 202201:23:18

The Focus Episode 25: Ziaan Hattingh Interview
The Focus Episode 25: Ziaan Hattingh Interview
In which we interview Ziaan Hattingh
We discuss:
Creative tension
Tailoring rewards
Strong teams
Abstraction and frameworks
Toxic cultures
David Marquet's Intent-Based Leadership
Stanley McChrystal's Team of Teams
Seth Godin's The Practice
Hiring for capability
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Sep 15, 202201:34:56

The Focus Episode 24: Andreas Drechsler Interview
The Focus Episode 24: Andreas Drechsler Interview
In which we interview Andreas Drechsler
We discuss:
Organising for fluidity and change
Hype and management fashions
How languages shape how we see the world
The nature of value
Architectural thinking - a holistic view across the organisation and its partners
Sensing at speed
Ambidextrous organisations - explore and exploit in balanced measure
Struggles with value streams and value networks
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Sep 14, 202201:31:59

The Focus Episode 23: Samuel Crescêncio Interview
The Focus Episode 23: Samuel Crescêncio Interview
In which we interview Samuel Crescêncio
We discuss:
Structure & flow, organically evolving structures
Creating virtual gembas (the actual places of work)
Tips and tricks for visual management in remote working
Building trust, leading by example
Inner pressure from a common purpose
Gratitude and changes of perspective
The Obstacle is The Way
Practicing curiosity
Mary & Tom Poppendieck
Opening spaces for change, and The Art of Holding Space
The Lean Pyramid
Sooner Safer Happier
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Sep 13, 202201:17:41

The Focus Episode 22: Johan Steyn Interview
The Focus Episode 22: Johan Steyn Interview
In which we interview Johan Steyn
We discuss:
Why do so many incompetent men become leaders (and how to fix it)
K-waves or economic super-cycles
Sapiens, the "useless class", and dystopia, utopia or something else?
The hypothesis that "all sentiences are created equal"
Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey
How civilisation is quite thin, and we're only a few missed meals away from a riot. Hunger and privation are powerful motivators
The Truman Show and how people accept the realities they are presented with
The Theories of Everything podcast
The original meaning of "blessed are the meek" Matthew 5:5
How we are excellent procrastinators
The New Human Movement
Corporate Rebels
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Sep 01, 202201:19:52

The Focus Episode 21: Scott Ambler Interview
The Focus Episode 21: Scott Ambler Interview
In which we interview Scott Ambler
We discuss:
Agile modelling and agile data
Short-termism
Non-invasive data governance
Truthfulness in work and data
The Disciplined Agile governance process blade
From PMO to VMO
Multi-disciplinary governance tribes
Value streams begin and continue through to the customer
Rapid adaptation including customer feedback and the example of Zara
Building relationships and automation of governance with a human touch (see also autonomation or jidoka)
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Sep 01, 202201:27:54

The Focus Episode 20: Shane Hastie Interview
The Focus Episode 20: Shane Hastie Interview
In which we interview Shane Hastie
We discuss:
Skills and titles
Agile People
#noprojects - A Culture of Continuous Value
From Project to Product
The code of ethical conduct for agile coaching
Frederic Laloux's concept of teal organisations
The Social Dilemma
The Art of Holding Space
Shane's upcoming book, The Rock Crusher - about a model for populating and managing product backlogs
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Sep 01, 202201:26:04

The Focus Episode 19: Alan Hesketh Interview
The Focus Episode 19: Alan Hesketh Interview
In which we interview Alan Hesketh
We discuss:
How when we work better we enjoy life much better
Alan's upcoming book "Start Fast. Achieving rapid impact from digital transformation"
How the lessons of endurance swimming apply to leadership
Making Work Visible
The "Lemons and Roses award" idea
John Boyd's OODA loop
Paul O'Neill's keystone habits put into practice at Alcoa
Beyond Budgeting
Willful Blindness
The Obstacle is the Way
Management 3.0
The Bureau of Sabotage and Jorj X. McKie
Leadership is Language
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Aug 31, 202201:24:35

The Focus Episode 15: Joanne Stone Interview
The Focus Episode 15: Joanne Stone Interview
In which we interview Joanne Stone
We discuss:
What Wick'd Agile is about
How getting fired as an Agile Coach triggers deep insight and professional growth
How people experienced in practicing an agile mindset may band together and help in more communities - with an invitation to join us in the World Café Event on September 10th.
The Agility Impact Community
Unintended consequences, and the story of the Cats in Borneo
Leadership agility
The inspirational example of José Andrés and the World Central Kitchen
Going from bickering to feeling like we belong
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Aug 28, 202201:23:20

The Focus Episode 18: Carlos Andrade Interview
The Focus Episode 18: Carlos Andrade Interview
In which we interview Carlos Andrade
We discuss:
The value-add of effective leadership
The necessity of disciplined training to develop effective skills
How great leaders create great professionals in their organisations
Vicious and virtuous cycles
Daniel Kahneman's Thinking Fast and Slow
The Inside the mind of a master procrastinator TED talk
David Marquet's Intent-Based Leadership
Jocko Willink's Extreme Ownership
Corporate Rebels
Humanocracy
Steven Pinker
Simon Sinek's Start with Why and Adam Grant's Think Again
Stephen Covey's 7 Habits of Highly Effective People
Hoshin Kanri or strategy deployment
The role of the court jester
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Aug 28, 202201:28:40

The Focus Episode 17: Janet Gregory Interview
The Focus Episode 17: Janet Gregory Interview
In which we interview Janet Gregory
We discuss:
Changing the perception of quality
The role of the tester into the future
Overcoming stigma
How we might get emotions to help us make better decisions
Seeing our teams as extended families
Beyond zero sum
Doing the work to get the benefits
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Aug 28, 202201:12:03

The Focus Episode 16: Al Shalloway Interview
The Focus Episode 16: Al Shalloway Interview
In which we interview Al Shalloway
We discuss:
How logic isn't enough to achieve impact. An engaging conversation is essential.
Cultivating empathy
Echo chambers and how we might break out of them.
Ways of dealing with complexity
Systems Thinking and Russ Ackoff's "TED talk"
How amazing instructors seem to be reading our minds
Steve Tendon and The Book of TameFlow
What makes a professional coach?
Dealing with toxic cultures
Stoicism and Ryan Holiday's work
Trim tabs
The Amplio community of practice
Success Engineering
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Aug 28, 202201:48:15

The Focus Episode 14: Dr. Isabella Allan interview
The Focus Episode 14: Dr. Isabella Allan interview
In which we interview Dr. Isabella Allan and we discuss:
Reading clues and cues
Confirmation bias
Network science and the need for social nodes
Overcoming marginalisation
Getting into flow together through song and rhythm
Maintaining a shared context and discipline in group conversations
Habit stacking
Disruptors, dissenters and outliers
The value of simulation and training for contingencies
Thriving in an enduring crisis
Turn Talk Into Action: Harness the power of dialogue and collective decision-making
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Jul 16, 202201:20:38

The Focus Episode 13: Kiron Bondale interview
The Focus Episode 13: Kiron Bondale interview
In which we interview Kiron Bondale
We discuss:
Risk management
Cognitive overload
Reframing combatants into partners - beyond us and them
Turning lessons into gold
Seeing learning as another type of work
The Peter Principle
Noticing erosion and skills to stop wasteful initiatives
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Jul 15, 202201:19:32

The Focus Episode 12: Daniel Gagnon interview
The Focus Episode 12: Daniel Gagnon interview
In which we interview Daniel Gagnon and we discuss:
Ego struggles
People impervious to argument
When do we get to toxicity?
Left-shifting oversight
The four stages of psychological safety
Agency and organisational agility
Rasputin coaching
Anti-fragility
Escaping zero-sum thinking - there's nothing that has more room than a full heart
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Jul 15, 202201:23:41

The Focus Episode 11: Dawie Olivier interview
The Focus Episode 11: Dawie Olivier interview
In which we interview Dawie Olivier, and we discuss:
Classic governance as a process of progressive disappointment
How the underlying foundations of governance and control are flawed
How we may learn to embrace auditors and devise competence-based controls
Hubris and fear
How we may energise change agents by setting them gently asmoulder
The vital importance of belief in the possibility of becoming better
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Jul 15, 202201:16:19

The Focus Episode 10: Safety & Courage
The Focus Episode 10: Safety & Courage
In which Aldo and Horia explain what we found as we navigated the tension between safety and courage.
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Jul 01, 202201:29:01

The Focus Episode #9: Competence & Innovation - Part 3
The Focus Episode #9: Competence & Innovation - Part 3
In which Aldo and Horia explain:
What we found as we navigated the tension between following the new rules and changing the rules - from the combined perspectives of both oversight and initiative professionals
How this contributes to balancing the maintenance of competent capability with exploration and innovation
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
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Jun 29, 202259:53

The Focus Episode #8: Competence & Innovation - Part 2
The Focus Episode #8: Competence & Innovation - Part 2
In which Aldo and Horia explain:
What we found as we navigated the tension between keeping things steady and inviting exploration - primarily form the perspective of the people involved in the work that creates value
How this contributes to balancing the maintenance of competent capability with exploration and innovation
We are:
Aldo Rall https://www.linkedin.com/in/aldorall/
Horia Slușanschi https://www.linkedin.com/in/slusanschi/
Gareth Holebrook https://www.linkedin.com/in/garethholebrook/
Find us at https://novavi.co/the-focus-podcast/
Jun 26, 202201:09:16

The Focus Episode #7: Competence & Innovation - Part 1
The Focus Episode #7: Competence & Innovation - Part 1
In which Aldo and Horia explain:
What we found as we navigated the tension between preserving the status quo and creating a better way of working - primarily form the perspective of the people involved in oversight activities
How this contributes to balancing the maintenance of competent capability with exploration and innovation
We are:
Aldo Rall https://www.linkedin.com/in/aldorall/
Horia Slușanschi https://www.linkedin.com/in/slusanschi/
Gareth Holebrook https://www.linkedin.com/in/garethholebrook/
Find us at https://novavi.co
Jun 25, 202259:50

The Focus Episode #6: Optimise Utilisation & Optimise Flow
The Focus Episode #6: Optimise Utilisation & Optimise Flow
In which Aldo and Horia explain:
What we found as we navigated the tension between optimising utilisation and optimising flow in an attempt to sustain a dynamic balance
We are:
Aldo Rall https://www.linkedin.com/in/aldorall/
Horia Slușanschi https://www.linkedin.com/in/slusanschi/
Gareth Holebrook https://www.linkedin.com/in/garethholebrook/
Find us at https://novavi.co
Jun 17, 202201:11:41

The Focus Podcast #5: Personal Interest & Organisational Purpose
The Focus Podcast #5: Personal Interest & Organisational Purpose
In which Aldo and Horia explain:
What we found as we navigated the tension between personal interest and organisational purpose in an attempt to sustain a dynamic balance
We are:
Aldo Rall https://www.linkedin.com/in/aldorall/
Horia Slușanschi https://www.linkedin.com/in/slusanschi/
Gareth Holebrook https://www.linkedin.com/in/garethholebrook/
Find us at https://novavi.co
Jun 15, 202252:19

The Focus Podcast #4: Iron & Agile Triangles
The Focus Podcast #4: Iron & Agile Triangles
In which Aldo and Horia explain:
What is the Iron Triangle
What is the Agile Triangle
What we found as we navigated the tension between the two triangles in an attempt to sustain a dynamic balance
We are:
Aldo Rall Horia Slușanschi Gareth Holebrook
Find us at https://novavi.co
Jun 12, 202201:14:09

The Focus Podcast #3: Control & Trust
The Focus Podcast #3: Control & Trust
In which Aldo and Horia explain:
What we discovered as we navigated the tension between Control and Trust in an attempt to sustain a dynamic balance
We are:
Aldo Rall Horia Slușanschi Gareth Holebrook
Find us at https://novavi.co
Jun 12, 202248:11

The Focus Podcast #2: Overview of Adaptive Oversight
The Focus Podcast #2: Overview of Adaptive Oversight
In which Aldo and Horia explain:
What we mean by Adaptive Oversight
How we navigate tension between polarities in order to sustain a dynamic balance
The six main polarities that we use to make sense of Adaptive Oversight
We are:
Aldo Rall Horia Slușanschi Gareth Holebrook
Find us at https://novavi.co
Jun 12, 202201:05:45

The Focus Podcast #1: Our intention with The Focus
The Focus Podcast #1: Our intention with The Focus
In which Aldo and Horia explain:
Why we're creating The Focus and why we named it this way;
A bit about Adaptive Oversight and what to expect from this podcast;
Our fundamental values and principles, and some expectations about how we will interact with our guests and audience.
We are:
Aldo Rall
Horia Slușanschi
Gareth Holebrook
Find us at https://novavi.co
Jun 03, 202248:21