
The Same Drugs
By Meghan Murphy

The Same Drugs Apr 16, 2021

Climate change isn't everything
Mike Hulme is a Professor of Human Geography and head of the Department of Geography at the University of Cambridge. His research focuses on representations of climate change in history, culture, and media, and the ways in which climate change is deployed in public and political discourse. Mike's 2009 book, Why We Disagree About Climate Change, was chosen as one of The Economist's books of the year, and looks at how the idea of climate change has taken such a dominant position in modern politics. His most-recent book, Climate Change Isn’t Everything: Liberating Climate Politics from Alarmism, addresses what he calls "climatism" — climate reductionism as ideology.
In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Mike about wildfires, "global warming," climate change activism, policy, hysteria, and more.
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Philip Slayton on antisemitism, Jewishness, and free speech in Canada
Philip Slayton is a Canadian lawyer, author, and past president of PEN Canada, a branch of an international non-profit defending free expression. His most recent book is Antisemitism: An Ancient Hatred in the Age of Identity Politics.
In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Philip about free speech in Canada, where antisemitism comes from, what it means to be a Jew, and whether or not a line needs to be drawn around so-called "hate speech."
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'This is punishment for dissent' — C.J. Hopkins: tried for satire in Germany
C.J. Hopkins is a Berlin-based playwright, novelist, and satirist. His most-recent essay collection is The Rise of the New Normal Reich: Consent Factory Essays, Vol. III.
In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with him about being charged by a German court for a satirical tweet, his thoughts on the Gaza/Israel conflict, the fight against online censorship, what the new totalitarianism looks like, and how he plans to fight back.
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Joe Allen: Don't turn your humanity over to the machine
Our world and day to day lives have changed drastically in a very short period of time. Technology has gone from an addition to our lives to our way of life — most of us can't operate without it. And most of us have gone along willingly — enthusiastically even — with this technocultural revolution. But what are the consequences of melding man with machine? What have we handed over in trusting our devices with our lives? Can we get it back?
In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Joe Allen, author of Dark Aeon: Transhumanism and the War Against Humanity, about transhumanism, AI, and why we should reject technoculture in exchange for touching grass.
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'These are not morally equivalent things' — Batya Ungar-Sargon on the Oct 7 attacks and the Israel/Palestine conflict
Batya Ungar-Sargon is the opinion editor at Newsweek, author of Bad News: How Woke Media Is Undermining Democracy, and a columnist at Compact.
In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Batya about the horrific attacks Hamas perpetrated against Israel this month, the response, what “Free Palestine” really means, why Israel has been labelled a “colonizer,” and whether there is any possibility of resolution between Palestine and Israel.
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Gurwinder Bhogal on the gamification of society and the dark places tech is taking us
Why do young men find extremism? Why do liberal women suffer from more mental health problems than conservative women? Why do Westerners imagine problems that aren't there? How has tech incentivized us into unhappiness?
Gurwinder Bhogal left his career in tech to become an "amateur psychologist," studying extremism, how tech is changing society, why smart people believe stupid things, and our modern mental health crisis.
In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Gurwinder about the ways in which tech has gamified humanity, how Luton became UK's jihadi hub, and the dark places tech will take us if we aren't careful.
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Bethany Mandel on parenting in the age of Covid, smartphones, and queer ideology
Bethany Mandel is a political commentator, homeschooling mom of six, co-founder of Right Books 4 Kids, and co-author of "Stolen Youth: How Radicals Are Erasing Innocence and Indoctrinating a Generation."
In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with her about what kids and parents are facing today in the era of mask mandates, Covid lockdowns, gender identity ideology in schools, and smartphones.
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Michael Malice on Canadian TV, Canadian accents, and Canadian authoritarianism
In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Michael Malice, a Ukrainian-American anarchist, the host of "YOUR WELCOME," and the author of numerous books, including The New Right and The Anarchist Handbook. His most recent book is The White Pill: A Tale of Good and Evil, which follows the bloody Russian Revolution from start to finish. Meghan speaks with him about communism, authoritarianism, why people became evil during Covid, and whether there is hope for Canada.
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Tucker Carlson is not who the left says he is
Chadwick Moore is a journalist, a contributing editor at The Spectator, and the author of Tucker, a recently released biography of Tucker Carlson.
In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Moore about who Tucker really is, beyond the vitriol we hear so often from progressives.
Addendum: Unfortunately the mic quality is low in this interview, on account of a tech mishap.
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April Hutchinson is a Canadian powerlifter who won't lose her sport to men
April Hutchinson is a Canadian powerlifter who has overcome child sexual trauma, alcoholism, and is now fighting to save her sport from men. Hutchinson, a member of the Canadian powerlifting team, spoke out after discovering a 6'2" male going by the name Anne Andres was competing as a woman. Andres claimed the gold medal at the Canadian Powerlifting Union's women's regional championship in August, lifting 1,327lbs (calculated from the combined weight of three lifts: squat, bench, and deadlift), beating out the closest competition by 470lbs, setting multiple National and and Unofficial World Records for "women."
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Siddharth Kara on sex trafficking and the horrors of modern slavery in cobalt mines
Siddharth Kara is an author, researcher, and activist. He has been documenting the realities of modern slavery around the world, and pushing for accountability. Siddharth is the author of a number of books, including "Cobalt Red: How the Blood of the Congo Powers Our Lives," and "Sex Trafficking: Inside the Business of Modern Slavery.” In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with him about the realities of sex trafficking around the world and the horrors of the cobalt mines, which feed the West's endless hunger for new technologies, particularly in the form of "green" electric vehicles.
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Blindsight is 2020: Gabrielle Bauer on the Covid dissenters
Who challenged the Covid narrative early on and how were they punished? Author and health journalist Gabrielle Bauer has published a book detailing key dissenters and what they suffered as a result of their heresy. Blindsight is 2020: Reflections on Covid Policies from Dissident Scientists, Philosophers, Artists, and More was published earlier this year and showcases 46 thinkers who bravely pushed back, despite social and professional punishment.
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Mike Nayna on bullshit PhDs, viral racism, and The Reformers
Mike Nayna is an Australian filmmaker. His 2016 short, Digilante, caught viral cancel culture and race politics at a defining moment that challenged his assumptions as well as the narrative chosen by the media. Another event at Evergreen College — wherein then-professors Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying were subjected to a student-led witch hunt after objecting to a day without white people at the school — led him to James Lindsay, Peter Boghossian, and Helen Pluckrose. Mike's most-recent project is a series of films called The Reformers, which follows the “grievance studies” hoax.
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An ex-john opens up about buying sex and why he became an advocate against the sex trade
In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Gene McConnell, an ex-porn user and sex buyer whose work today focuses on helping men build healthier relationships with themselves and with women. Gene is the founder of Authentic Relationships International and was featured in a recent documentary about men who pay for sex, called Buying Her.
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Shannon Hayes on choosing happiness over 'success'
Do you want to be the best and have the most? Or do you want to enjoy the journey? How much does "success" really matter and how can we choose a good, fulfilling, happy life over wealth while still making things work? Meghan Murphy speaks with Shannon Hayes, "The Radical Homemaker" and the author of The Grassfed Gourmet, Radical Homemakers, and Redefining Rich. Shannon grew up on a farm in the Catskills, which she continues to run today with her family, along with the Sap Bush Hollow Farm Store & Cafe.
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Can mental health issues be cured with a pill?
Dr. Roger McFillin is a Clinical Psychologist, writer, speaker, and the host of the Radically Genuine podcast. Earlier this month, Roger’s YouTube channel mysteriously disappeared after he posted a video challenging the prescribing of antidepressants to youth. After some high profile Twitter users spoke out about the apparent censorship, YouTube restored the channel, but why was it removed in the first place? On the podcast, Meghan Murphy speaks with Roger about the efficacy of drugs claiming to treat depression and ADHD, the truth about these diagnoses, what some better ways might be to improve your mental health, and why so many are inclined to shut down these conversations.
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Lee Fang on Big Pharma, Jordan Neely, 'disinformation,' and going independent
In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Lee Fang, an American journalist who worked as an investigative reporter at The Intercept (as well as for outlets such as The Nation and Vice) before going independent on Substack. He has been reporting on Big Pharma, Big Media, crime in San Francisco, politicized racial narratives, how the DHS and the FBI colluded with Big Tech to police "disinformation," and more. Lee recently broke a story revealing that Pfizer quietly funded community groups like the Chicago Urban League to promote the vaccine mandates.
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Conservative Party of BC candidate Karin Litzcke is an ex-leftist fighting bad leftist policy and ideology
In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Karin Litzcke, an ex-NDP supporter and Vancouverite now running as an MLA candidate for the Conservative Party of BC. I interviewed Karin in 2021 when she was running for the People's Party of Canada and was one of the only candidates pushing back against the Covid lockdowns and mandates as well as openly challenging gender identity ideology. Now, she's running in the BC provincial by-elections for the Mount Pleasant riding and is fighting to save women's sports, fighting gender identity ideology in schools, as well as fighting for better policy addressing the addiction and homelessness crisis in Vancouver.
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Porn is hijacking your sexuality
Pornography is now fully mainstream, accepted as a harmless, normal, expected part of men's lives. Social media, the internet, dating apps and sites like OnlyFans have incorporated porn into our lives such that it is unavoidable. Kids are exposed to porn as early as nine years old. Those who are critical of the porn industry are labelled as "sex-negative," old-fashioned, censorial, shaming, or prudish. That said, things seem to be changing as more and more men are waking up to the impact of porn on their mental health, relationships, sexualities, and lives. Men are talking to other men (and boys) about the harms of porn, opening up a new and necessary conversation.
In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Daniel Principe, Collective Shout’s youth advocate and educator, about his experience growing up with porn, why he stopped consuming it, and what the impact of porn has been on young people today.
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Robin Dunbar on friends—the real secret to a long and happy life
Friends are fun, but they bring much more to our lives than just company. In his book, Friends: Understanding the Power of our Most Important Relationships, Robin Dunbar explains why, beyond mental health benefits, friends offer longer, healthier lives. (And no, online friends don't count.)
Robin is an anthropologist, evolutionary psychologist, and head of the Social and Evolutionary Neuroscience Research Group at the University of Oxford. Meghan Murphy speaks with him about why we need friends, how to make them, what the magic number of friends is, and why human touch is the real truth-teller.
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San Francisco sucks: Leighton Woodhouse on addiction, crime, and the Twitter files
Leighton Woodhouse is a journalist and documentary filmmaker. He also co-founded Public on Substack with Michael Shellenberger, where the two of them have been doing some excellent reporting on addiction, homelessness, prostitution, crime, and policing in San Francisco. They also, of course and famously, reported on the Twitter files. In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Leighton about the situation in San Francisco and how it got so bad, the Twitter files, and his political trajectory, which went from very left to questioning the ideologies and political views he'd long been advocating.
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Almost two hours of girlhood, with Jonathan Kay
Jonathan Kay is a Canadian journalist, author, and editor of Quillette. He hosts the Quillette podcast and was a long time columnist and editor at the National Post. In this episode, Meghan speaks with Jon about trans-identified males in women's disc golf, Dylan Mulvaney's girlhood, Jon's fast food and related exercise addiction, the end of Twitter's misgendering ban, Adrienne Smith's indoctrination workshop, feminism, and more.
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Why is the Canadian government trying to regulate what you see online?
Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party is trying to push through a bill that would give the government the power to filter what Canadians see in their news feeds, on YouTube, and on social media. In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with journalist Rupa Subramanya about Bill C-11 and its consequences, should the bill become legislation. Read her article, "Trudeau’s Battle Against a Free Internet," at The Free Press.
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Matt Thornton on martial arts, self-defense, building a healthier relationship to violence
Matt Thornton received his blue belt from the legendary Rickson Gracie in 1993 and was the first person in the state of Oregon to receive a black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. He also gave John Kavanagh, father of MMA in Ireland and trainer to UFC legend Conor McGregor, his black belt. Matt’s school, Straight Blast Gym (SBG), became Oregon’s first MMA-style gym. His book, "The Gift of Violence: Practical Knowledge for Surviving and Thriving in a Dangerous World," comes out on April 11th, 2023.
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Mary Harrington thinks feminism needs to go back — way back
Has feminism gone too far? UK writer and author of Feminism Against Progress, Mary Harrington, thinks so. In fact, she thinks we need to go back — way back. Modern technologies, cosmetic surgeries that chase youth eternally, and interventions like the pill have not offered women freedom or empowerment, leading us to wonder if things should have stopped with the first wave. Certainly, Mary believes we should be moving in an entirely different direction. In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Mary about her anti-futuristic vision of the future.
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Michael Shellenberger on how the left got climate change, addiction, and prostitution wrong
Michael Shellenberger is a leading energy expert, founder and president of Environmental Progress, cofounder of the California Peace Coalition, and the best-selling author of San Fransicko: Why Progressives Ruin Cities and Apocalypse Never: Why Environmental Alarmism Hurts Us All. He recently co-founded Public, an investigative and exploratory journalism platform, on Substack, with journalist Leighton Woodhouse. Michael lives in Berkeley, California.
I spoke with him about the ways progressives are getting everything from climate change, the addiction crisis, and prostitution legislation wrong, advocating for solutions that do more harm than good.
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Stephanie Winn on therapy, narcissism, and why kids think 'gender identity' is the problem
Stephanie Winn is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, host of the You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist podcast, and Associate Producer of a new documentary called Affirmation Generation: The Lies of Transgender Medicine, which talks to detransitioners, therapists, doctors, and other experts about the "trans youth" trend and its impact on young people.
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Jamie Kilstein on being #metood, quitting porn, and becoming a better man
Jamie Kilstein is a comedian who was a woke, cancel culture-devotee, before being cancelled himself. In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with him about being cancelled, quitting porn, jiu jitsu, masculinity, and more. Follow Jamie on Twitter @jamiekilstein and on Instagram @thejamiekilstein.
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Jared Klickstein on our misguided approach to homelessness and addiction
Jared Klickstein was an addict for many years, ending up on Skid Row, in and out of jail and the hospital before finally getting clean. He recently wrote an article for Public about the real cause of homelessness and how to better address the growing problem of addiction, crime, and homelessness. In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Jared about his life and experiences, as well as his views on harm reduction and addiction.
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Peter Boghossian on how to have tough conversations and change minds in a world that avoids both
Peter Boghossian had been a professor of Philosophy at Portland State University for a decade when he famously resigned in September 2021, on account of harassment and an increasingly illiberal atmosphere, limiting free thought, free speech, and critical discourse. He is now engaged in a "Street Epistomology" project, wherein he engages the public in conversations about controversial topics, encouraging them to question their beliefs and maybe even change their minds. In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with him about the project, how to disagree with friends, and why he loves My 600-lb Life.
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Benjamin Dichter on how truckers ended the pandemic
Benjamin Dichter was one of the key organizers behind the Freedom Convoy that brought Canadians together last year to demand an end to lockdowns and mandates. He recently published a book about what happened behind the scenes, how the media acted as a tool of big government, and how the truckers saved Canada. Almost a year after the truckers saved Canada from authoritarianism, Meghan Murphy speaks with him about what happened behind the scenes and the political changes he sees on the horizon.
Find Honking for Freedom: The Trucker Convoy that gave us hope online.
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Shannon Thrace was married to a man who decided he wanted to be a woman
Shannon Thrace was happily partnered with Jamie for 14 years when he decided he wanted to transition. Shannon's memoir, 18 Months, describes her confusion and heartbreak at watching the man she loved become an entirely different person — narcissistic, moody, selfish, dramatic, and depressed. The physical changes didn't help either. 18 Months tells a compelling story about the trans trend and its impact on men, women, and relationships.
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Tristan Hopper on everything wrong with Canada in 2022
Tristan Hopper is a Canadian journalist writing for the National Post. In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with him about all the bad policy 2022 brought Canadians — from MAID to gun law — as well as the great policy on Costco hotdogs.
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Jennifer Sey left a corporate career she loved to tell the truth
Jennifer Sey rose through the ranks over almost 23 years at Levi Strauss & Co, and was on track to become the first female CEO of the company when she resigned. After speaking out against school closures during the Covid lockdowns, Jennifer was told to stop talking. She refused.
Jennifer is the author of Chalked Up, an autobiography of her time as an elite gymnast, and a producer of Athlete A, a documentary about sexual assault in gymnastics. Her new book is called Levi's Unbuttoned.
In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Jennifer last week about her career, her experiences in gymnastics, and why she spoke up about the Covid response.
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How to outrage everyone: Jimbob's Savage Memes refuse to pick sides
Jimbob is on his fifth Instagram account — banned repeatedly for his comics and memes that use satire to point to hypocrisy on the left, right, and centre. This puts him at odds with all sorts of people, but it also keeps his satire free from the kind of political biases that can end up feeling heavy-handed and obvious. In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Jimbob about his politics, his art, and the trajectory of our technocratic society. Jimbob has a new book out, "SAVAGE MEMES VOL. 4," available for purchase on his website.
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Genevieve Gluck on the truth behind the trans trend
The truth few are willing to acknowledge about the men who transition to become "women" is the sexual aspect. There is a dark underbelly to what has been framed as a movement for "trans rights," erased by progressives and trans activists. Genevieve Gluck, co-founder of Reduxx and host of the Women's Voices podcast, has delved deeper than most. I spoke with her about what drives men's desire to transition, and how things like pornography, autogynephilia, even drag queen story hour all play a part.
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Pamela Garfield-Jaegar is bringing truth to therapy
Pamela Garfield-Jaegar calls herself "The Truthful Therapist." She has spent over 20 years as a social worker and therapist, and is now working to help parents and youth navigate an evermore politicized therapy industry, where more and more kids are being medicalized unnecessarily, and where parents and therapists alike are pressure to prioritize ideology over truth. In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with her about over-diagnosing mental illness and over-prescribing pharmaceuticals, as well as the problems with narratives surrounding "trans kids."
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David "El Necio" Diaz on bare knuckle boxing and changing your life
In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with David "El Necio" Diaz, an up and coming champion in the bare knuckle boxing world with an incredibly inspiring story to tell. Meghan spoke with Necio from LA, where he recently attended the premiere of a new documentary series being produced about his life and fight, as he was in his final week of prepping for his fight in Orlando on November 5.
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'Vancouver is Dying' — Aaron Gunn on Vancouver's growing drug and crime problem
Vancouver's Downtown Eastside has long been notorious for open drug use, homelessness, and crime, but in recent years things have gotten noticeably worse. What was once relegated to a relatively small area of the city has spilled out into many other neighbourhoods, with stranger attacks now happening daily and overdose deaths through the roof. What happened? And how do we fix it? Aaron Gunn is an independent journalist and host of Politics Explained, a series exploring politics in Canada and the issues facing Canadians today. In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Aaron about his documentary, "Vancouver is Dying."
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Americans are being misled about meat — finding ethical meat is hard, but Ben Spell wants to help
It's 2022, do you know where your meat comes from? Probably not. Dishonest labeling, loopholes, and misleading claims about sustainability and health sell people lies about the meat they buy. We are sold meat claiming to be all-American and antibiotic-free that is anything but. Moreover, we are told meat is unhealthy and bad for the environment, in an attempt to sell processed "plant-based" or lab-grown "meat" products that are neither healthy nor ethical. Benjamin Spell is the Founder and CEO of Good Ranchers, a company that delivers high quality meat, sourced ethically from American farmers, that is actually antibiotic and hormone-free, to Americans. In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with him about what the meat industry isn't telling you, where your "American" meat actually comes from, the harms of fake meat, and how you can choose ethical meat and support American farmers.
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Erin Friday on why we need to stop transitioning kids now
Meghan Murphy speaks with Erin Friday, a San Francisco attorney and a member of Our Duty, an international group that opposes transgender ideology. She is also the mother of a formerly trans-identified child.
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"I've never experienced this level of division in Canada before" — Tara Henley on leaving the CBC
Tara Henley is a writer and podcaster based in Toronto, and the author of, "Lean Out: A Meditation on the Madness of Modern Life." She worked for the CBC for the better part of a decade before resigning in January, penning an open letter saying the broadcaster "went from being a trusted source of news to churning out clickbait that reads like a parody of the student press" and that, "To work at the CBC in the current climate is to embrace cognitive dissonance and to abandon journalistic integrity."
In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Tara about the problems with Canada's national broadcaster, the CBC, the state of free speech in Canada, Justin Trudeau's impact on the country, what she learned from doing hip hop journalism, and how Canadian media as gone wrong.
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PayPal is banning people for political reasons — how can we fight back?
On September 15, PayPal froze the accounts of The Daily Sceptic and the Free Speech Union, both founded by Toby Young. While some progressives and liberals argue that tech companies like PayPal are private companies, and therefore have the right to deny services to whomever they like, the ramifications of this trend should deeply concern us all. PayPal restored Toby's accounts this week, but the fight isn't over!
I spoke to Toby live on YouTube on Thursday, September 29th at 4PM CT/5PMET.
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Greg Lukianoff is making free speech great again
Greg Lukianoff is co-author of The Coddling of the American Mind and CEO of FIRE, recently rebranded as the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (previously, the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education). Before becoming FIRE’s President in 2006, he worked with the ACLU, which has famously adopted an ideological and activist approach to issues of speech, censorship, and open debate of late, in contrast with their past work defending free speech for all, even the Nazis.
In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Greg about why younger generations no longer value free speech, what cancel culture accomplishes, and how to remind the world why freedom of speech matters.
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West is Best: Konstantin Kisin reminds us not to take the West for granted, despite elite cynicism
Konstantin Kisin is a Russian-British comedian, co-host of Triggernometry, and the author of, "An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West." In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with him about the realities of life under communism, political correctness, feminism, the conflict in the Ukraine, Sam Harris, Matt Walsh, his new book, and more!
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Canada's road to Beijing — John Carpay on the Trudeau government's move towards a digital ID
John Carpay is the founder and president of the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms (JCCF). Meghan Murphy speaks with him about the ongoing enforcement of the ArriveCan app on those entering Canada, the Trudeau government's plan to introduce a "digital ID," and the potential for this to lead to a China-style social credit system.
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Kevin Bardosh on the consequences of Covid policy in Canada
Kevin Bardosh is a social scientist, affiliate assistant professor at the University of Washington’s School of Public Health, and lead author of a paper published in February, called, “The Unintended Consequences of COVID-19 Vaccine Policy: Why mandates, passports, and segregated lockdowns may cause more harm than good.” The paper looks at unintended consequences of COVID policy in the areas of behavioural psychology, political and legal effects, socioeconomics, and the integrity of science and public health.
Meghan Murphy speaks with him about what he found in his research and how COVID vaccine policies and lockdown measures, framed as efforts to protect people from serious illness and death, may have been counterproductive and damaging to public health.
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Terry Glavin on fake mass graves and Trudeau's woke lies
In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Terry Glavin, a Canadian journalist, author, and columnist at the Ottawa Citizen and the National Post. After publishing a piece outlining the journalistic failures leading to national headlines falsely claiming the discovery of "mass unmarked graves of Indigenous children" at the sites of former Residential Schools in Canada, Terry was slandered across social media and the Canadian literary landscape as "a residential school denialist” and "racist," despite his long history of work with Indigenous peoples and that he was correct: no "mass graves" were ever discovered, as reported. Meghan speaks with him about his reporting, the real story, and about the problems with journalism in Canada.
Terry is the author of numerous books, including "The Last Great Sea: A Voyage Through the Human and Natural History of the North Pacific Ocean." His work has covered regional and global politics, natural history, and anthropology. He has published numerous books and articles about Indigenous peoples, cultures, histories, politics, and issues, including, "Nemiah: The Unconquered Country" and "A Death Feast in Dimlahamid." Glavin was awarded the Lieutenant Governor's Award for Literary Excellence in 2009. Find Terry on Substack at The Real Story.
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Ok cultist? James Lindsay on drag queen story hour, neo-Marxism, and his Twitter ban
James Lindsay, the man who dared insist 2+2 never equals 5, has been permanently suspended from Twitter. Meghan Murphy spoke with him live on Sunday, August 7th about kids and gender, drag queen story hour, queer politics, and what he means by “groomer.” James is a mathematician, author, and cultural critic. His podcast, New Discourses, is on YouTube.
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Batya Ungar-Sargon on how journalism went woke
How did media and journalism become the domain of the elite? Why does liberal media only represent the ideologies, politics, and narratives of a tiny fraction of the population? What happened to reporting for the masses?
In this episode, Meghan Murphy speaks with Batya Ungar-Sargon — deputy opinion editor at Newsweek and author of the book you all must read immediately, "Bad News: How Woke Media Is Undermining Democracy" — about these issues and more.
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