The Pilot Network Podcast
By The Pilot Network
The Pilot Network PodcastNov 15, 2023
Space Lasers, The Experience Evacuation and Inspiring the Next Generation With David Cohen
Cohen traveled globally as an instructor pilot and commissioned officer in the United States Air Force, rising to the rank of colonel. After serving over 26 years in the Air Force, Cohen moved to Florida to inspire the next generation of pilots by teaching the Air Force Junior ROTC in Orange County Public Schools and Aviation in Lake County Schools. Cohen started his experience in higher education by bringing dual-enrollment aviation programs to the Orange and Lake County school districts as an adjunct professor with Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University for six years.
Cohen earned a B.S. in aerospace engineering from Boston University, an M.S. in industrial engineering from New Mexico State University, and an MBA from Washington State University. He was also a National Defense Fellow with the Institute for Defense Analyses in Alexandria, Virginia.
David is a thoughtful, insightful, and inspiring guy who works with young pilots and has a passion for education and improving the lives of pilots everywhere. It was a pleasure to interview him today, and this interview cannot be missed!
Alicia Godfrey: The life of an artist and pilot spouse
We have a phenomenal interview with a vendor, Alicia Godfrey, who runs Azul Timber. If you are looking for an aviation-related gift, her site is the place to go. She has beautiful engravings and aviation related artwork. It’s the kind of artwork any aviator would want in their home or workspace.
We also talk about the life of a spouse of an aviator. So this is a great way to hear some perspective for any married pilots out there.
Adam Answers Your Questions
Adam drops into your feed today to answer some of your questions. If you have a question you would like to ask, you can email email@example.com or post it on Facebook.
Solo show: Adam delves into his personal side...
This is a special episode from Adam personally to you. We are going to get personal. New contracts, what it’s like to work at the airlines right now, and some self-care advice. He also talks about some podcasts and masterclasses he is currently listening to.
Re-Release: Richard McSpadden: AOPA Air Safety Institute Sr. Vice President and former Commander of the USAF Thunderbirds
We are deeply saddened to report that Richard McSpadden died in an aircraft accident outside Lake Placid, New York, on Sunday afternoon. The Cessna 177 Cardinal in which Richard was in the right seat experienced an emergency after takeoff. The airplane attempted to return to the airport but failed to make the runway. Both occupants lost their lives.
Richard was a very accomplished pilot, including serving as commander of the U.S. Air Force Thunderbirds during his military career, and a trusted colleague, friend, son, husband, and father.
Richard is survived by his wife, Judy; his son, Grant; and his daughter, Annabel.
Our thoughts are with Richard’s family at this time.
The Pilot Network wants to echo the AOPA with our sincerest and heartfelt thoughts to Richard's family. He led through selfless action and was a pilot's pilot. Thank you for making us all a little better at flying airplanes; your legacy will live on through aviators everywhere. Tailwinds Rich...
John McFarlin is saving USAF pilot recruiting all by himself!
Today on the show we are joined by John McFarlin, also known as SLAP. For those of you looking for that coveted guard or reserve gig, and need some help figuring out the next step, this episode is for you. He also talks about a new service he is offering to help people streamline their applications for the airlines.
Shane Platt - Airline Apps
Today we are joined by Shane Platt, COO of Airline Apps. Many of us want to peak behind the curtain of Airline Apps to see what happened to the mountain of resumes and applications for the various airlines. Shane is a former Marine pilot who now works for a major airline, and on the show today, we sit down to answer all your unanswered questions about the world of Airline Apps.
Adam and Anthony (our amazing correspondent!) debate sleep protocols
This episode features one of the TPN Pro correspondents, Anthony Felix. Anthony is a cargo pilot for a major cargo airline. We debate sleep protocols and come to an understanding of being on international routes going in opposite directions around the world. We hope you enjoy this conversation and take something of value away. If you enjoyed this conversation, you can look into joining TPN Pro to read some of his articles.
Back again! Tait Duryea brings the knowledge about markets, money, and management
You may know Tait from The Passive Income Pilot Podcast, TPNx, or TPN in general. He is all things real estate, financial guru, and airline pilot extraordinaire. He is on the show today to give us some updates on the market, what he is doing with his company, and what’s going on in the world of real estate. Neither of us are professional financial consultant, so use this episode as a starting point to making your financial decisions.
In This Episode
- 4:15 - 2023 update on Tait’s business, Turbine Capital
- 6:40 - What is real estate syndication?
- 13:27 - Making your own luck in the world of investments
- 26:07 - Why waiting for the crash to buy is a terrible idea (and what you should do instead)
- 29:21 - An overview of the current real estate market
- 37:00 - The current state of small business and retail
- 41:50 - Real estate vs. passive income investments
Mental Health with Keith Roxo of Wingman Med
Today’s guest is once again Dr. Keith Roxo of Wingman Med. He has been on the show before, but today we are talking specifically about pilot mental health. We discuss how the FAA views mental health and some of the pitfalls related to insurance and unraveling childhood diagnoses and PTSD.
This episode is for informational purposes only. It is not intended to be used as legal or medical advice.
In This Episode:
- 2:45 - The FAA's view of mental health in pilots
- 7:23 - The mental health readiness checklist for pilots
- 8:42 - What makes a mental health appointment reportable
- 15:30 - Finding the right mental health professional
- 18:02 - Why you should get yourself a direct primary care physician
- 26:12 - What you need to know about a PTSD diagnosis as a pilot
- 31:48 - How to handle a childhood diagnosis
- 40:40 - When a mental health struggle can be considered a disorder
TPNx Live 3: Pilots, Piedmont, and All-Americans featuring Grace Wilson
Grace Wilson is a pilot recruiter from Piedmont Airlines, and they joined us live at TPNx in April. The cadet programs are often overlooked by pilots who are retiring from the military. But the program at Piedmont Airlines is certainly worth checking out, especially if you want to get your foot in the door of commercial aviation. So Grace shares more about the cadet program at Piedmont and some of her career in aviation.
TPNx Live 2: James Szydlowski…That Coffee Dude
James Szydlowski joins us live from TPNx to talk about a coffee company he started recently. James has managed to combine his two passions of coffee and aviation by creating coffee for pilots. Coffee is an essential part of any pilot’s daily life, so please enjoy Adam and James talking about coffee. James also shares some details on his aviation career and what he’s doing at TPNx.
3:01 - How James got into the coffee business
3:55 - The details of how they source their beans and make the coffee
4:57 - About James’s aviation career and what brought him to TPNx
7:49 - The most underrated and overrated layover cities in the world
James’ coffee company - https://aeronauticalcoffee.com/
TPNx Live 1: DALPA’s Mike Bell’s Union 101
In the next three weeks we are releasing interviews recorded during TPNx back in April.
In this episode, we are featuring a live convo with Mike Bell, a pilot with Delta. Mike has all of the critical info that pilots need to know about unions. A lot of pilots don’t understand what their union can do for them, so this interview will set you up with a basic understanding and more.
Pilots can benefit a lot from getting involved in their unions and other networks that are there to support them. Make sure you take advantage of the people who are here to support your career from the unions to TPNx.
Cory Glenn - Director of Pilot Recruiting and Development at American Airlines Lays it Down!
This is the last episode of the TPNx prep series, and it is with Cory Glenn, the director of recruitment and pilot development at American Airlines. They are going to be giving out CJOs to anyone who earns them. He joins us today to talk about what American is looking for in resumes and interviews today.
Cory has been an instructor in the military, and he is going to be celebrating his 9th anniversary with American Airlines this Saturday during TPNx. You are not going to miss this episode, because Cory will be sharing what you need to know if you want to be on the fast track to a multi-million dollar career with American.
4:56 - Corey’s background and how he got into aviation
9:12 - How American has handled the last couple of years
15:46 - The typical hiring timeline for American Airlines
23:25 - How to make sure your application stands out with American
38:43 - How to use TPNx to your advantage if you want to join the American Airlines crew
52:55 - Cory’s biggest advice for pilots going through the hiring process with the airlines
United Airlines - Captain KP Kirpatrick
Captain KP Kirpatrick has served at United Airlines in several different capacities. Before joining United, he served active duty in the airforce. KP gives us the goods on the current state of the industry and how to ready yourself for the meets and greets with the airlines.
Listen to this to prepare yourself for TPNx this week in Orlando!
- 3:55 - KP’s background and career
- 6:10 - Inside the Aviate Academy and the Aviate program
- 10:45 - The current state of the aviation industry and predictions for the future
- 16:12 - United’s typical hiring timeline
- 22:34 - Interview prep that United wants to see
For information about all United pilot pathways: United.com/pilots
More about Aviate program: Unitedaviate.com
For those ready to apply today, they can find the application at pilothiring.united.com
Delta Air Lines with Captain Ashish Naran
Delta Air Lines will be at TPNx on April 21 and 22nd, so on the episode today, captain Ashish Naran is joining us for a TPNx preview. Ashish is a pilot recruiter with Delta, and he has held a few different positions with the company. Listen to this episode if you are interested in catching up with Delta at TPNx. We will be sharing everything you need to know about Delta Air Lines, its hiring process, and how you can prepare yourself to stand out.
- 2:45 - The current and future state of Delta Air Lines
- 6:46 - Hiring plans that Delta has for the rest of the year
- 7:41 - What to expect when you sign up for a timeslot with Delta
- 10:40 - Inside Delta’s unique hiring process
- 12:11 - How to prepare for an interview with Delta
- 15:23 - A typical hiring timeline with Delta
- 18:21 - Minimum requirements to become a Delta pilot and how to stand out
For information about pilot careers at Delta Air Lines: https://www.delta.com/us/en/careers/pilots/overview
Ready to apply to Delta today, visit Airline apps to start your application https://www.airlineapps.com/jobs/details.aspx?emp=Delta-Air-Lines&job=First-Officer
Avelo Air - Scott Hall
Scott is the VP of flight ops for Avelo Air. They are a small startup airline, and they have a lot to offer pilots as employees and crew members. You will be able to catch up with Scott and Avelo at TPNx this year.
This episode is for anyone who wants to prep for an interview with Avelo Air. Make sure you listen all the way to the end of the episode for some solid tips on getting into the airline industry.
2:34 - Scott’s background and how he became a founder of an airline
5:46 - How to start an airline in a nutshell
8:44 - Some of the stats and info on Avelo Air
16:58 - Avelo’s timeline from a qualifying application to a training date (it’s pretty fast)
19:15 - What Avelo likes to see in their applicants
30:17 - Minimum qualifications to be considered by Avelo
VA Disability, Your FAA Medical, and Managing Health Concerns with Dr. Keith Roxo
Dr. Keith Roxo is the commercial Operations Director with Wingman Med. If you hold or hope to hold an FAA Medical, they are here to help you. Keith was on the show just about a year ago, so go back and check out that episode if you haven’t heard it before.
In the show today, Keith and Joe talk about navigating the VA disability process and accessing your true VA disability benefits without putting your FAA Medical at risk. We also do some scenario training to equip pilots to seek their needed medical attention and maintain their FAA Medical.
Nothing discussed today is legal or medical advice, this is for informational purposes only.
5:47 - How your VA disability claim could compromise your FAA Medical
9:00 - How to navigate the VA disability and the FAA Medical to maximize both
14:52 - Common missteps in VA disability claims
25:35 - Being proactive with your medical care without compromising your FAA Medical
35:05 - Bridging the gap between your primary medical provider and your FAA doctor
40:00 - Hashing out potential scenarios
Raven Career Development - James O'nieal
James O’Neal is the founder of Raven Careers and a good friend of TPN. He founded Raven Careers in 2010 to provide aviation professionals with the resources to successfully develop their careers. He is an ATP-certified pilot with type ratings in King Air 300, Citation Sovereign, and Embraer 170/190 aircraft. He understands pilots and the challenges they face during their careers.
TPNx is just around the corner, and the airlines are currently going through a hiring boom. So in this episode, James shares some valuable tips for job interviews, job fairs, and fielding job offers.
8:43 - Navigating the problem of multiple job offers
11:30 - Staying true to what career path serves you best
18:03 Is there another furlow in the future?
21:58 - Advice for anyone going to TPNX
30:58 - Mindset tips for job hunting and interviews
Connect with James: https://ravencareers.com/
There has been a lot going on in aviation recently, and a lot is happening in the TPN universe. The subject of today’s episode is more important than any hiring event, meetup, or conference.
In this mini episode, Adam shares his thoughts on some of the recent safety concerns in the media and he shares how we can all improve as an aviation community.
TPNx 2023: The Best Job Fair Out There for Pilots
Matt and Adam are back on the pod together. Things have been busy with both work and personal, but today there is a big announcement to share with the TPN community. TPNx is fast approaching, and it will be here before we know it. So on the show today, we will also discuss how TPNx is different from any other job fair you can attend.
In This Episode
- 2:57 - The difference between TNPx and other job fairs
- 5:07 - The number one thing you need to know about TPN events
- 7:01 - Why you should bring your spouse to a career fair
- 8:53 - How TPNx manages to eliminate lines
- 11:22 - The details for the next TPNx event
- 17:25 - Why the vendor are at TPNx
- 21:11 - Fun stuff to look forward to at the next TPNx
Get your ticket for TPNx 2023: thepilotnetwork.com/tpnx
Myth Busting and Mathematics with Dr. Catherine Cavagnaro
Cavagnaro graduated from Santa Clara University in 1987 and completed her Ph.D. at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign in 1995. Her doctoral dissertation, A Homotopy Reciprocity Law for Ribbon Disc Complements, concerned homotopy in low-dimensional topology, and was supervised by Robert F. Craggs. In it, she credits Paul Halmos for, as she puts it, ordering her to go to graduate school.
Meanwhile, she joined the mathematics faculty of Sewanee: The University of the South in 1993. She has served as chair of the mathematics department at Sewanee and introduced mathematics courses relating to her aviation interests, on topics including aerodynamics and the use of differential equations to model physical phenomena.
In 2001, Cavagnaro and William T. Haight II co-edited the Dictionary of Classical and Theoretical Mathematics, published by the CRC Press as the third volume of their Comprehensive Dictionary of Mathematics book series.
One of Catherine’s specialties is dispelling common aviation myths. In today’s episode, we dig into a number of things including her time at the University of Tennessee Space Institute and some commonly held aviation myths.
In This Episode
- 3:51 - What is longitudinal stability?
- 13:39 - Why icing conditions deserve our respect and how to handle them
- 15:30 - Catherine’s career in mathematics
- 24:55 - Equal transit theory myths and facts
- 36:14 - Busting common myths about takeoff
- 40:01 - Catherine’s experience with the upset training
- 53:32 - Current projects Catherine is working on
Intercepted by the Soviets, Thoughts for Young Pilots, and VA Benefit Challenges with Prof Tom Peterson
Tom Peterson is an aviation professor at Minnesota State University, Airforce Academy Graduate, and flew for the airforce in multiple variants of the 135 Platform during the cold war. He has some interesting encounters with Russians that we get into during the episode. He also has some experience with models that many of you may not have heard of.
He has some great advice for young pilots, those getting from student to professional, and people who want to use VA benefits to pay for flight training. And his career spans some really fascinating history, so get ready for a fascinating conversation.
In This Episode
9:55 - Stories from Tom’s time in the military during the cold war
14:03 - A civilian flight that was mistakenly shot down and why that happened
15:11 - Tom’s career timeline and how he became a pilot
27:48 - Tips for success in flight training
55:38 - Navigating bureaucracy in the airforce and important lessons learned
1:00:39 - Getting academic people to accept coursework in aviation in universities
1:11:15 - Supporting students when they are struggling
1:20:16 - Cultivating professionalism as a young pilot
Will Raising the Retirement Age Solve Staff Shortages?
With all the staffing shortages in the airline industry, the mandatory retirement age for airline pilots has been raised from age 65 to 67. Joe and Adam discuss that today and the parallel it has with the switch from 62 to 65 in the past.
All of the other pilot shortages in the past pales in comparison with what we are experiencing now. There are a lot of problems that could arise from this raising of the retirement age, so Adam and Joe discuss the pitfalls and the ethics we will all be facing.
In This Episode
7:00 - The politics behind the raising of the retirement age
9:48 - Is the raising of the retirement age going to help with staffing shortages?
16:08 - The difference between bringing back a retired pilot and a new hire
24:30 - How staffing shortages shows up differently in the airline industry vs other industries
36:05 - Why the recession is not going to decrease the amount of demand for air travel
New Hires Going Straight to Captain Positions?
It has been a little bit, but we are back. Adam is back after a lot of family time, work time, and recovery time. Matt has also been extremely busy. But we have still taken the time to think about what we see for TPN in the future and our first new correspondent.
Adam shares some of those plans and the upcoming episode topics today. He also talks about new hires going directly to the left seat at some major airlines.
If you are interested in being a correspondent or doing anything else with the podcast, then you can contact us: firstname.lastname@example.org
Let's talk age 67... (and Joe hosts his first show!)
Joe’s newest podcast correspondent joins Adam to chat about some current industry news. Today’s top story is the age 67 rule. With all of the events going on in the world today, we are possibly raising the mandatory retirement age from 65 to 67. Adam and Joe offer their takes on the new retirement age and talk about some of the other top stories in the airline industry.
In This Episode
- 7:03 - About some of the legislation that is being pushed related to the new retirement age
- 9:53 - Are people actually going to keep flying after age 65?
- 16:07 - Why bringing people back from retirement is not that different from a new hire
- 27:00 - The reality of the staffing shortage and why flights are really getting canceled
- 36:11 - Revenge travel is coming!
We are looking for correspondents! If you are interested, then email us at email@example.com
New Voices of TPN - Introducing Joe Sacco
Today we are introducing Joe Sacco. Those of you who went to TPNX might have met him. He’s one of the gems of the TPN community, and he is going to be one of the new podcast correspondents!
On the podcast today, we get to know Joe, his interests, and what he plans to bring to the TPN community as its newest correspondent. Joe and Adam bond over their common interest in Jiu Jitsu, keeping perspective as a seasoned pilot and helping those who are hoping to make it.
If you are interested in being a correspondent, send an email to firstname.lastname@example.org!
Major General Craig Wills - 19th Air Force Commander
Here at TPN, we explore issues and ideas that explore the entire arch of a pilot’s career. We talk about technology, entrepreneurship, and more from the lens of aviation. Today’s episode features the 19th Airforce Commander, Major General Craig Wills talking about changes in how the air force trains and invests in their pilots.
In This Episode
- 2:15 - Major General Craig Wills’ journey into aviation
- 8:08 - The current state and mission of air force pilot training
- 23:25 - Non-aviation skills required to train as a pilot
- 29:22 - Is the pilot shortage real? Will that shortage last?
- 32:04 - How modern technology has improved pilot training
- 40:05 - What you need to know about the pilot shortage
- 45:03 - Find more info on pilot training 2.0
Turbine Capital's Tait Duryea: Passive income is more than a possibility!
Tait Duryea from Turbine Capital is an airman, CEO, real estate investment guru, and all-around good dude. He will be at TPNX to share his knowledge, and he is gracing us with his presence on the podcast this week. You are guaranteed to have a good time listening to Tait talk and you will also learn some valuable lessons.
Tait wants to teach you everything you need to know about setting yourself and your family up for financial wellbeing. So Adam and Tait are sitting down to talk all things real estate investment for pilots.
In This Episode
- 9:48 - Discovering passion and purpose in real estate as a pilot
- 19:26 - The basics of real estate investing through money partners
- 32:41 - The current state of the real estate market and what you need to know if you are looking to invest
- 45:31 - What you need to know about small rentals and rehabbing properties
- 56:29 - Best place to start for anyone interested in getting into real estate investing
Email Tait - email@example.com
Keith Roxo - Wingman Med
Medical issues are a constant threat to a pilot’s profession. So today we have Keith Roxo from Wingmen Med on the show. Keith is a board-certified aerospace medicine physician who started his career in the military as a pilot. Wingmen Med’s goal is to keep you flying whenever possible. They are pilots helping pilots from a place of understanding and experience. This episode is all of the things you need to know about your medicals as you transition from the military to the commercial airlines.
4:33 - things to consider when transitioning from military-medical to commercial medical
7:50 - how does VA disability affect your FAA Medical?
10:54 - how to handle if you discover you have made a mistake on your FAA Medical?
12:15 - three possible outcomes from your AME
19:24 - the difference between a military flight surgeon and an FAA doctor
26:44 - finding an AME who can help with drugs/alcohol or mental health complications
31:33 - doctor-patient confidentiality with Wingmen Med
35:55 - how to handle minor injuries or illnesses that go away quickly
38:39 - FAA Medical concerns for pilots over the age of 40
Cockpit2Cockpit eLearning Course
Transitioning from the military to the airlines is much more than just changing your uniform one day.
If you are making a transition from the military to the airlines, then this is going to be a useful episode for you. Marc Himelhoch wrote a best-selling book, Cockpit2Cockpit that illustrates a 30,000-foot view of what to expect during your transition from military to airline.
They have turned the best-selling book into an e-learning course to continue to serve pilots who are joining the rapidly-changing airline industry.
Dan McCalister worked as an airforce pilot for many years and struggled to make his transition to the airlines. When he did land that airline job, he started working as an interview coach for other pilots. He realized that military aviators need a resource that maps out that roadmap towards the next phase of their career.
In this episode, we talk about the new course, what you can expect to learn from it, and who will benefit most from it. We also share some tips for pilots looking to get their first position at an airline.
In This Episode
6:19 - A preview and breakdown of the new course
11:37 - At what point in your military career should you take the course
15:05 - How to prepare for a job fair
21:36 - Social media tips for the job hunt
Airline 101 Lecture 3
This part of the series is about everything that happens once you get into the swing of your schedule. You will start to hit a few forks in the road during your early airline career. The first fork in the road will be whether or not to upgrade.
So in this lecture, we are diving into the reasons why you may or may not choose to climb the seniority ladder at your new airline job.
Airline 101 Lecture 2
This is part two of our Airline 101 series where we talk about what happens after you get that airline job. We will go over what to expect and how to progress your aviation career from this point.
This episode is about the actual grind once your initial training process is complete. How do you get your flying schedule sorted out? We go through all the basics of bidding in this episode. It gets quite complicated, so this is just an overview. Consider this a starting point to getting this down to a science.
Airline 101 Lecture 1
Many of you are making transitions in your career, and might benefit from an Airline 101 series.
Also the TPNX is coming up shortly for those of you who are looking to make some changes in your career.
In this episode, we are talking about the first phase after the interview process. How will your career be starting off once you land that job at an airline? This is a point where things start to go quickly. There’s going to be a lot of information coming at you, so in this short episode we will cover some of the biggest points that you need to make sure gets covered during this phase of the process.
Adam Waxes Poetic
This will be a quick down and dirty to just say hello and share some updates on what is up and coming with the podcast.
TPNX is coming up, and there are a few major airlines that will be showing up. Go to the TPN pro app to get early access to the tickets and deep discounts.
We are working with our correspondents on the podcast to bring some fantastic new content to the show.
Adam shares some updates on his personal life and some of the things he has been doing outside of his work. Sometimes the grind of being a pilot can wear you down if you don’t have something else to be an outlet on the side.
FLYING MAGAZINE - Craig Fuller
Craig Fuller is the founder and CEO of Freight Waves and recently became the new owner and CEO of Flying Magazine. We are so excited to have him on the show because Adam and Matt have been huge fans of the publication. On the show today, we dive into Craig's journey in aviation, and what he sees in the future for the industry. We also talk about some of the plans Craig has for Flying Magazine under his leadership.
3:35 - Craig Fuller’s journey in aviation and founding his company
10:53 - What’s next for Flying Magazine under Graig’s leadership
13:44 - The aviation renaissance and the future of aviation
16:55 - How COVID has changed the direction of aviation
24:26 - Leveraging digital articles on Flying Magazine to report on fast-paced stories in aviation
36:35 - What Craig does when he’s not running his two companies
Mark your calendars for the TPNX Conference in 2022
Contact Us - firstname.lastname@example.org
All Call: Podcast Correspondants
We’ve had a lot of success with corespondants in our written content, so we would like to extend that practice to the podcast. We are looking for TPN members who are interested in dabbling in the podcast space and doing interviews about aviation. No prior experience is required, you just have to be motivated!
If you are interested, please email us at email@example.com.
Bill Sims - From fighter pilot to entrepreneur to airline captain
Bill Sims is the co-founder of Spitfire Elite, an interview prep company that can help you to take your career in the direction of your dreams. We have a great conversation today about the aviation field, entrepreneurship, and so much more. This episode is great for those of you who happen to find your career in transition at the moment.
8:35 - How Spitfire is helping pilots through transitions in their careers
14:00 - “Interviewing is a competitive sport.” - Bill Sims
19:08 - What you absolutely have to study before a job interview
25:26 - What young pilots need to know about the hiring process
So frustrating! A tiny look at why TONS of flights cancel...
This is a quick PSA and some thoughts on what happened to Southwest over the weekend. It was not the best look for the company, and media has really taken over the story. I see this as a learning opportunity and a chance for us to talk about what happens behind closed doors in our industry.
Can I get a letter? How not to suck at asking for letters of recommendation
The hiring wave is back! There is a shortage of pilots as the airlines are a year behind in hiring, so we want to talk about letters of recommendation in this episode. We personally get asked for a lot of letters of recommendation, and TPN originally started because of our own struggle asking for recommendations.
5:30 - Our personal experiences and approach asking for letters of recommendation
14:46 - The one critical thing to say to someone when asking for a letter of recommendation
17:16 - How many letters of recommendation should you get for your airline application?
20:16 - What the airlines really care about in your letters of recommendation
26:11 - The best piece of advice we can give on letters of recommendation
Charlie Venema and Adam talking apps... delicious, delicious apps
Charlie Venema is the founder of CheckedAndSet, a great resource for any pilots who are currently applying for jobs. In the episode we talk about letters of recommendation, references, and how to make sure you application is air tight before hitting that final submit button.
We thought this episode would be relevant because 18 months into the pandemic, every airline is hiring like gangbusters, so there is a lot of opportunity for any pilots who are looking to begin their career or shift into the commercial airline space. So if you are caught off guard with this hiring wave and you don’t have everything to go yet to apply for your dream job, then this episode will be a great listen for you as you are checking all the boxes on your applications.
8:05 - The ins and outs of references and recommendations on airline applications
17:08 - Who should you ask when looking for professional recommendations?
21:23 - Can someone be a reference and a recommendation?
27:51 - How to get an advantage before your application is even published
29:30 - What happens after you submit your application to an airline? (hint, you’re not finished yet!)
Connect with us
Jason Depew and Nick Narbutovskih - Authors, Pilots, Storytellers!
In this episode, we are talking about how you can become an author, so you can tell your aviation stories. This can help us all become better pilots and preserve the fascinating history of aviation. After everything that has happened over the last year, many of us have stories to share. Listen to this episode to learn how you can carry on the history of aviation and make a few bucks while doing so.
6:03 - What inspired Nick to write a book about aviation
12:07 - The process that Nick followed to write his book
18:08 - Reasons why you might share your story through writing a book
23:32 - Ways to get your book published
27:43 - Finding the time to write an entire book while balancing a full-time job and life
38:19 - Can you get rich from being an author?
45:52 - The stories we all hope to hear from the Pilot Network
59:51 - Why professional flying is for everybody
Thoughts on Afghanistan
Emotions are running high as we continue to move through some crazy times. This is your reminder that TPN has your back no matter what you may be going through.
Evey Cormican CEO and Founder of VTR (Visionary Training Resources)
Evey Cormican from VTR is here with us today. This is going to be a fun podcast episode because we will be talking about tech and entrepreneurship through the lens of aviation. Evey is a Boeing 767 Captain with a major US based airline, is a B757/767 instructor, and has served as the Vice Chairman of her pilot union training committee. After going back to school for her MBA, she founded VTR: A company which uses virtual reality to train airline pilots. We talk with Evey about how VR significantly improves the quality of training for airline pilots, the gear needed for someone to get started using VR training, and opportunities to get involved with her project. Listen to learn about the future of training for commercial pilots.
4:25 - How VR can significantly improve airline pilot training
5:18 - “Today’s pilots deserve today’s technology.” - Evey Cormican
9:11 - The gear that is required to create a high-quality VR experience
13:53 - Potential challenges to implementing VR training into airline pilot training
18:30 - How VR will take traditional flight simulators to the next level
24:30 - Who is the target customer for this software? Where can you expect to find this in training programs?
27:10 - How you can get involved with a market research opportunity
Evey’s email address: firstname.lastname@example.org
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#75 - Adam and Matt - 10 Things to Do Today To Start Your Airline Career
Matt and Adam are both here, and we have something to get off our chests. It has been a rough 16 months and we are currently in an intense recovery in the airline industry. Some of you may be looking to get into the airline industry at this time, so this episode is about 10 things to work on if you want to fly for the airlines, regardless of what stage you are in your career.
- Read Cockpit2Cockpit: This is a great read that gives you the high-level view of things you need to know coming out of pilot training (3:38)
- Get your logbook together: We recommend using MilKEEP. They have the easiest system for transcribing military records. (4:43)
- Get your ATP and CTP: Once you have this stuff, you are done, because you might be in a situation in the future where you will need it. (7:41)
- Official copies of high school and college transcripts: This is often put to the last second and they can take forever. (11:53)
- Applications and resumes: Use Checked And Set to review your application materials. They are the people who are going to help you get your stuff into perfect order when you are applying for airline jobs. (14:36)
- Get your letters of recommendation: Start very early with this, give them ammunition on what to write, and send a thank you after they write the letter. (20:13)
- Get your FCC Radio Operator’s License: If you have never flown outside the military, you may have never heard of this, but it’s really easy to get and you will need it. (23:55)
- Get your driving record: There is the National Driving Record, but it might be different based on your location. If you have a ticket, be prepared to explain why. (25:08)
- Form 8 History: Look all the way back to pilot training and make review any less than 100 percent you have and be prepared to reflect on it. (27:44)
- Interview prep: There are a lot of resources out there. It’s really important to become a good communicator for the interview and to enhance your career in general. (30:29)
#74 - Jeff Nielsen - The Airline Pilot Guy
We are with Jeff Nielsen from the Airline Pilot Guy Podcast. Jeff was interested in being a pilot from a really young age, and he realized that the people that got hired in large airlines usually came from the military. He didn’t want to do that, so he studied engineering and business at Georgia Tech (and that didn’t work out). He studied Aviation Management at Auburn and ended up joining the military. He currently flies at a large airline where he has been employed for 32 years.
In this episode, we talk about Jeff's perspective on the events of 2020 after a long career of witnessing the ups and downs of the aviation industry, career advice for aspiring pilots, and how he built his side hustle through the Airline Pilot Guy.
12:34 - Jeff’s perspective on how the last year in aviation compares to past events
22:07 - Why you should consider flying for the military if you need a job right now
25:07 - Tips for the kind of education and experience to seek out if you want to be a pilot
28:03 - How Jeff created his side hustle with Airline Pilot Guy
37:26 - Jeff’s plans for the future and what he is going to do in his retirement
#73 - Dave Jesurun - High Country Air Service and Skillbridge
Dave Jesurun is an entrepreneur, former air force, and owner of High Country Air Service, an aviation services form. They are like a "turnkey flight department" for people who own airplanes (or who would like to) but are not qualified to operate them. They have the plans to also add a charter service to the business.
Private aviation is outside the normal career path for our average listener, so if you are about to exit the military or you are considering a career change, you might find this episode interesting. We talk about the Skillbridge Internship, which is a 6 month program that helps active military members gain some experience flying private airplanes.
- 5:36 - The difference between part 121, 91, and 135
- 9:51 - The Skillbridge Internship and how they help military members transition into the next stage of their careers
- 14:16 - How military experience sets you up for success in the private aviation field
- 17:33 - The airplanes Dave works with at High Country Air Service
- 19:37 - What are the advantages of the internship and who is eligible? We also share directions on how to apply.
Contact us for more information on the SkillBridge program:
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#72 Pete Larrabee - DoD Skillbridge Program
Pete Larabee is joining us today. to talk about the DoD Skillbridge Program. On TPN, we like to talk about programs that are lesser known that can help pilots with their careers. Pete was in the program when he was transitioning from active duty to the next part of his pilot career, so he is on the show to share his experience.
The Skillbridge Program allows you to do an internship in the last 6 months of your military career in any field you want to help with your transition into your career after the military.
5:47 - The process of signing up for the Skillbridge Program
6:04 - Caveats that you need to know before signing up for the Skillbridge Program
8:20 - Keeping your benefits as you do the Skillbridge Program
12:00 - The upcoming hiring wave that pilots can look forward to in the future
Contact Pete on Facebook or TPN
#71 - The Dangers of Automation with Jack J. Hersch
Jack Hersch, author of Dangers of Automation in Airlines: Accidents Will Happen. Jack is not an airline pilot, but he is a student of automation and the science of human factors. Jack started as a writer with his book Death March Escape, sharing his father's story of escaping the concentration camps. He is a self-proclaimed airplane nut, so when the MAX crashes happened, he took it upon himself to investigate and report what really happened to those planes. It turns out it was an issue with automation.
- 2:25 - "On the wrong day with the wrong bit of automation going bad, could run into a problem."
- 3:21 - Conclusions Jack came to while writing his book - issues he found with automation in commercial airlines
- 9:40 - What is automation culture and how does company culture or world culture influence some of the accidents investigated in the book?
- 15:54 - "At the end of the day, the question isn't is automation bettor or is hand-flying better. It's about having situational awareness."
- 18:28 - How automation would apply to single-pilot or no-pilot operations in commercial or cargo aircraft
- 31:12 - "I wrote the book not to be a guidepost but to show what could happen in various scenarios."
Email Jack - email@example.com
BONUS: Pat And Adam Are Scared!
My guest from the last episode, Pat, he and I had an emergency together. He and I had very different perspectives, and we break it down in this episode. If you liked this episode or if you have any thoughts, let us know! Email us at firstname.lastname@example.org
“If you are flying airplanes, there are people who have had something happen to them and people who will have something happen.” - Pat