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Think Inclusive

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Think Inclusive exists to build bridges between families, educators, and disability rights advocates to create a shared understanding of inclusive education and what inclusion looks like in the real world.
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Dr. Temple Grandin | Visual Thinking

Think InclusiveJan 19, 2023

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Dr. Temple Grandin | Visual Thinking

Dr. Temple Grandin | Visual Thinking

For this episode, I speak with Dr. Temple Grandin, professor of animal science at Colorado State University and the author of New York Times bestsellers Animals in Translation, Animals Make Us Human, The Autistic Brain, and Thinking in Pictures which became an HBO movie starring Claire Danes.

Temple and I discuss why she wanted to write Visual Thinking, what educational advocates can learn from how she helped improve the welfare of farm animals, and what educators can do to support visual thinkers.

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Jan 19, 202346:12
Ashley Barlow | Perfectly Imperfect Advocacy

Ashley Barlow | Perfectly Imperfect Advocacy

For this episode, I speak with Ashley Barlow, a special education attorney advocate and host of the podcast Special Education Advocacy with Ashley Barlow. In a former life, she was a German teacher in Jefferson County Public Schools and Cincinnati Public Schools, having taught nearly every grade from K to 12.  Ashley practices statewide in Kentucky and also operates a business to empower and inspire parents and advocates in special education, which can be found at www.ashleybarlowco.com. She is also the Director of Education at the National Down Syndrome Congress.  

We did something a little different for this episode. Ashley and I interviewed each other and are posting the same interview on our respective podcasts. Cool right? We discuss several things related to inclusive education, including … what inclusive ed really means and using Dear Colleague Letters as a strategy in IEP meetings.  

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Jan 12, 202356:05
Jay Ruderman | All About Change

Jay Ruderman | All About Change

For this episode, Tim speaks with Jay Ruderman, the President of the Ruderman Family Foundation, focusing on inclusion, diversity, and social justice. He hosts All About Change, a podcast focused on activism, change, and courage. 

Jay is a social justice activist who has spent his life promoting the inclusion of people with disabilities. Through his foundation, he has been an integral part of holding the entertainment industry accountable for its lack of authentic representation of people with disabilities. 

Just a quick content warning, Jay and I discuss some sensitive topics, such as suicide, school shootings, and gun violence. Our conversation was recorded in May of 2022. 

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Dec 22, 202236:40
TASH | Characteristics of Fully Inclusive Schools

TASH | Characteristics of Fully Inclusive Schools

For this episode, Tim speaks with members of the Inclusive Education Community of Practice from TASH, Debbie Taub, Diane Ryndak, and Mary Fisher, about TASH’s position statement on the characteristics of fully inclusive schools.

So just a point of clarification. We recorded this interview earlier this year before the annual conference in Phoenix, the first weekend of December. Tim will give his full recap and reflection of that TASH conference in his audio newsletter, The Weeklyish. Go to weeklyish.substack.com to subscribe and get it in your inbox when it drops next week.

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Dec 08, 202246:08
Charmaine Thaner | The Art of Advocacy
Nov 10, 202248:12
Kanwal Singh | Inclusive Education in India
Oct 27, 202237:12
Russ Ewell | Inclusive Leadership
Oct 13, 202240:03
Meg Grigal & Cate Weir | Inclusive Higher Education for People with Intellectual Disabilities

Meg Grigal & Cate Weir | Inclusive Higher Education for People with Intellectual Disabilities

For this episode, I speak with Meg Grigal and Cate Weir from Think College about why it is important for individuals with intellectual disabilities to have the option to go to college. We discuss what inclusive post-secondary education programs for students with intellectual and developmental disabilities really look like. And how the data shows that these programs are successful, with learners getting jobs after graduation at three times the rate of the national average. 

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Sep 22, 202239:50
Jani Kozlowski | Early Childhood Inclusive Education

Jani Kozlowski | Early Childhood Inclusive Education

For this episode, I talk with Jani Kozlowski, author of the book, Every Child Can Fly: An Early Childhood Educator’s Guide to Inclusion. We discuss why inclusion matters in early childhood education programs. And how we can prepare educators to create inclusive learning environments for all learners. 

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Resources

Melissa McCullough | What Inclusive Preschool Services Look Like

Every Child Can Fly: An Early Childhood Educator's Guide to Inclusion

ECTA Indicators of High-Quality Inclusion

Early Childhood Inclusion Videos

ECTA video links Early Childhood Recommended Practices Modules STEM Innovations for Inclusion in Early Education (STEMIE) Video Library CONNECT Modules Videos CA Inclusion Video Library  IL Understanding Inclusion Modules

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Sep 08, 202239:30
Dr. Ross Greene | Using Collaborative and Proactive Solutions to Support the Behavior of All Learners

Dr. Ross Greene | Using Collaborative and Proactive Solutions to Support the Behavior of All Learners

For this episode, I talk with Dr. Ross Greene, author of the books Lost at School and Raising Human Beings. We discuss what schools are getting right and wrong about supporting learners with challenging behavior and an alternative lens for educators to view behavior in all learners. 

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Aug 25, 202235:02
Dr. Mona Delahooke | Beyond Behavior Charts and Positive Reinforcement

Dr. Mona Delahooke | Beyond Behavior Charts and Positive Reinforcement

For this episode, I talk with Dr. Mona Delahooke, author of the books, Brain-Body Parenting and Beyond Behaviors. We discuss the neuroscience of behavior, how parents and educators can move beyond behavior charts and positive reinforcement, and a new way to look at using the check-in procedure with learners.

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Aug 11, 202240:56
Mazey Eddings | Neurodiverse Representation in Books

Mazey Eddings | Neurodiverse Representation in Books

For this episode, we talk with Mazey Eddings, the neurodiverse author of A Brush with Love, a romance novel set in dental school. 

We talk about why she wanted to write neurodiverse characters in her books, how she sees herself in the characters of A Brush with Love, and what she hopes her readers take away from the book on how to support people living with anxiety.

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Jul 28, 202236:49
BONUS: Cheryl Green & Thomas Reid | Pod Access Survey
Jul 20, 202203:26
Liz Weintraub & Kenneth Kelty | Using Content Creation for Disability Advocacy

Liz Weintraub & Kenneth Kelty | Using Content Creation for Disability Advocacy

Welcome back to a new season of Think Inclusive!

For the first episode of our tenth season, we speak with Liz Weintraub and Kenneth Kelty, both fantastic content creators and disability advocates.

Liz is the host of Tuesdays with Liz: Disability Policy for All, a YouTube show where she breaks down policy so everyone can understand it.

Kenneth is the host of Exceeding Expectations with Kenneth Kelty, a podcast where he shares the stories of trailblazers and leaders surrounding disability advocacy.

We talk about the motivation behind creating their shows, some of their favorite moments while recording interviews, and what they hope their audience learns.

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Jul 14, 202231:36
Remix: TIES Center | Including Students with Extensive Support Needs in General Education

Remix: TIES Center | Including Students with Extensive Support Needs in General Education

Today on the pod, we are replaying some clips from our 2020 episode about including students with intellectual disabilities in general education (our second most listened to episode of all time). But this time around, I'm adding an additional interview with my friends from the TIES Center, Jennifer Sommerness and Jessica Bowman. Now if you don't know, the TIES center is the National Technical Assistance Center on inclusive practices and policies. It works with states, districts, and schools to support the movement of students with disabilities from less inclusive to more inclusive environments. TIES is funded through a federal grant from the Office of Special Education Programs or OSEP. I invited Jennifer and Jessica to share some stories of students with extensive support needs that were included in general education and reflect on their journey to becoming supporters and promoters of inclusive education. In the original episode from 2020, I had my friend and former colleague, Juanita Prichard come on the podcast and talk about strategies for teachers who had students with intellectual disabilities in their classrooms.

References

5-15-45 Tool

Comprehensive Inclusive Education: General Education and the Inclusive IEP

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Jun 23, 202244:55
Remix: Julie Causton | Six Inclusive Education Advocacy Strategies for Families

Remix: Julie Causton | Six Inclusive Education Advocacy Strategies for Families

Today on the pod, we bring you a special remixed episode from 2019, my interview with Julie Causton, founder of Inclusive Schooling. We discuss six strategies for families advocating for their children to be included in general education classrooms. To start the episode, the story of Sam, a young man with Down syndrome, who went from spending all of this time in a segregated special education classroom to being included in general education.

References

Washington students with disabilities are often denied the right to learn in general classes (King 5 News)

Achieving Inclusion: What Every Parent Should Know when Advocating for Their Child

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Jun 09, 202229:03
Rasheera Dopson | WomanHood and Disability Podcast
May 26, 202230:03
Matt from With Rolls and No Luck & Shirene Hayes Creator of Super MEro

Matt from With Rolls and No Luck & Shirene Hayes Creator of Super MEro

Who is ready for a double episode?!?

Today on the pod, we have two fantastic guests. The first is Matt, from the With Rolls and No Luck podcast. We discuss what it is like to generate income all while being on Medicaid. Our second guest is Shirene Hayes, the creator of Super MEro and The Code, a resource for educators to utilize in their classrooms.

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Resources

With Rolls & No Luck - The Book, The Key, The Beyond Episode 1: Welcome To Slatevale

Access to Firearms Increases Child and Adolescent Suicide | Society for Research in Child Development SRCD

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May 12, 202245:43
Ira Eidle | Autistic Archive

Ira Eidle | Autistic Archive

For the last thirty years, there has been a movement going on. One you may not know a lot about or the origins of. It’s the Neurodiversity movement and our guest Ira Eidle wants to share with you what he’s learned about it.  

Ira is the curator of Autistic Archive, a collection of video lessons about the history of the Neurodiversity movement, links to websites created by autistics for autistics, and recommended books written by people on the autism spectrum (among other resources). 

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Apr 28, 202233:13
Haley Moss | Autistic Independence

Haley Moss | Autistic Independence

What does autistic independence look like?

In today's episode, we interview Haley Moss (autistic attorney, author, and advocate) about her book, The Young Autistic Adult's Independence Handbook.

Haley shares with us the main message she wants to get across to autistic individuals who are seeking independence, alternatives to guardianship, and strategies for educators to foster self-advocacy in their students.

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Apr 14, 202234:11
Lisa Drennan | Inclusive Recreation

Lisa Drennan | Inclusive Recreation

In today's episode, we interview Lisa Drennan, inclusion expert and founder of Merge Consulting.

We discuss how families of children with disabilities can advocate joining community recreation groups like the YMCA or even a local summer camp. And that the strategies for advocating for change in recreation spaces are not that different from what we use for school. We discuss how teachers can create cultures of belonging for their students, as well as how educators can find belonging in their schools.

Referenced in this episode:

Pathways to Friendship

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Mar 24, 202238:46
Alida Miranda-Wolff | Building Inclusive Organizations That Last

Alida Miranda-Wolff | Building Inclusive Organizations That Last

In today's episode, we interview Alida Miranda-Wolff, the author of Cultures of Belonging: Building Inclusive Organizations That Last.

We discuss how teachers can create cultures of belonging for their students, as well as how educators can find belonging in their schools. 

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Mar 10, 202232:43
What Inclusionists Need To Know About the Anti-CRT Movement

What Inclusionists Need To Know About the Anti-CRT Movement

What is Critical Race Theory and what do advocates for inclusive education need to know about the Anti-CRT movement?

For this super-sized episode, we share the story of an inclusive Maryland principal who was pushed out of taking a job as a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Director in Cherokee County, Georgia. A devastating side-effect of the backlash against CRT is the damage that has been done to educational equity initiatives. These initiatives are the very ones that inclusive education advocates have been trying to connect the dots from disability rights to equity for all students. 

We interview four individuals with experience and expertise in CRT:

King Williams, a filmmaker, and journalist in Atlanta, GA Alida Miranda-Wolff, a professional in the Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Belonging sector in Chicago, IL Eddie Fergus, a professor at Temple University Pete Newlove, a doctoral student at the University of Colorado and current high school English teacher

Referenced in the episode:

Cherokee Schools' would-be diversity administrator shares why she stepped down (Cherokee Tribune & Ledger News) Teacher Anti-CRT Bills Coast To Coast: A State By State Guide (Forbes) Plessy v. Ferguson (History.com) Conservative-led school board fires superintendent after allegations of private ultimatum, teacher protest (Washington Post) Gov. Kemp opposes 'Critical Race Theory' in letter to state board of education (11 Alive - Atlanta) State Education Board Passes Resolution On Teaching Race (Georgia Public Broadcasting) Teachers Say Laws Banning Critical Race Theory Are Putting A Chill On Their Lessons (NPR)

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Feb 24, 202201:20:13
Diana Pastora Carson | Beyond Awareness

Diana Pastora Carson | Beyond Awareness

Diana Pastora Carson is the host of the Beyond Awareness Podcast.

Her TedTalk, "Walking with Joaquin," chronicles her family's journey to bring home her brother after living in an institution for 15 years. 

She joins us on Think Inclusive to talk about her journey as an educator who advocated for inclusive education, what it’s like now that Joaquin has been home for close to ten years, why she started the Beyond Awareness podcast.

Books 

Beyond Awareness: Bringing Disability into Diversity Work in K-12 Schools & Communities

Ed Roberts: Champion of Disability Rights

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Feb 10, 202235:39
Greta Harrison | Born Fabulous Podcast

Greta Harrison | Born Fabulous Podcast

Today on the podcast, we welcome Greta Harrison, the host of the Born Fabulous Podcast.

We talk about the reason for starting "Born Fabulous," why hope should be an essential characteristic of an educator, and the goal of inclusion is always life in the community. 

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Jan 27, 202252:45
The Intersection of Race and Disability | Pop Up Podcast @ #CEC2022

The Intersection of Race and Disability | Pop Up Podcast @ #CEC2022

Jan 21, 202248:56
Amanda Darrow and Shamby Polychronis | Honoring Intersectionality

Amanda Darrow and Shamby Polychronis | Honoring Intersectionality

Today on the podcast, we welcome Amanda Darrow (Utah Pride Center) and Shamby Polychronis (University of Utah) to talk about honoring intersectionality between the disability and LGBTQIA+ communities. 

We cover a lot of ground including the difference between gender/sexuality/sex, pronouns, stats on people who identify as both LGBTQIA+ and disabled, and ways educators can make classrooms more inclusive for both communities.

Amanda and Shamby also respond to the question, "If kids consume media that has LGBTQIA+ representation, won't they just get confused?"

Referenced in our interview:

The "Genderbread" Person

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Jan 13, 202201:03:05
The Best of Think Inclusive Volume 2

The Best of Think Inclusive Volume 2

Happy Holidays!

To finish off 2021, we are featuring four interviews. One that you haven't heard yet, Lou Brown, and three that you might have caught in our feed if you've been listening for a while: Katie Novak, Alfie Kohn, Cheryl Jorgensen.

The first is a previously unpublished clip from my 2019 interview with the co-founder of TASH, the late Lou Brown. I always meant to revisit this interview and I'm so glad I did for this episode. 

Next up is my interview with universal design for learning expert, Katie Novak. We talk about how ineffective traditional assessments are because they are not universally designed, even though the most recent education law says they should be. 

My interview with Alfie Kohn, author of the book punished by rewards, was our most listened to episode of 2021. And the clip you are about to hear is probably one of the reasons why. Alfie, I mean, Mr. Kohn, lays out his argument for why educators should steer clear from using any extrinsic reward system in their classroom.

And finally, I wanted to share my interview with Cheryl Jorgensen, author of many books on the topic of inclusive education. This clip is from 2014 and it is important to me because it shows my growth in an area that I'm rather ashamed it took me so long to realize: the parallel between the civil rights and disability rights movement and how they are inseparable.

Thanks for your time and attention! See you in 2022!

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Dec 30, 202145:14
Anthony Ianni | Autism, Basketball, and One Athlete's Dream

Anthony Ianni | Autism, Basketball, and One Athlete's Dream

Today on the podcast, we talk with Anthony Ianni, the first autistic Division 1 college basketball player and author of the book, Centered: Autism, Basketball, and One Athlete's Dream

We talk about what it was like growing up, not knowing about his autism diagnosis until high school, playing for the Michigan State basketball team, and what he would tell young people on the autism spectrum about following their dreams. 

Also in the episode, Tim references the Autistic Self Advocacy Network's "about autism" page as well as their book, "Welcome to the Autism Community." 

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Dec 16, 202133:06
Howard Shane | How Teaching at Belchertown State School Changed My Life

Howard Shane | How Teaching at Belchertown State School Changed My Life

Content Warning: In today’s episode, we will discuss depictions of the living conditions of institutions for people with disabilities in the 1960s and certain attitudes about people with disabilities that worked there.

Today on the podcast, we talk to Howard Shane, author of the book Unsilenced, associate professional at the Harvard Medical School, and the Director of the Autism Language Program at Boston Children’s Hospital.

We talk about what it was like to work at Belchertown State School, an institution for people with disabilities, in the 1960s. We also highlight some of the stories from his book, including how some of his students used an early form of augmentative and alternative communication. 

Also, special guest, Carol Quirk (CEO of MCIE) drops by at the beginning of the episode to reflect on her experiences working in institutions after she read Howard Shane's book Unsilenced.

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Nov 25, 202145:03
Karrie Shogren & Sheida Raley | What Does Self-Determination Really Mean?
Nov 11, 202137:12
Jenna Rufo | Using Inclusion as a Framework to Build Equity and Support All Students

Jenna Rufo | Using Inclusion as a Framework to Build Equity and Support All Students

Today on the podcast, we interview author, educator, and consultant, Jenna Rufo about her book Reimagining Special Education, and how we can use inclusion as a framework to build equity and support all students. 

We also discuss what it looks like for students who are not included 80% or more of their day in general education and if there is a bare minimum to what we call inclusive education.

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Oct 28, 202145:14
Michael McSheehan | How MTSS and UDL Fit Into Inclusive Education

Michael McSheehan | How MTSS and UDL Fit Into Inclusive Education

Today on the Think Inclusive Podcast, we interview systems change expert and inclusive education advocate, Michael McSheehan

We talk about what started him on his journey of advocating for inclusive education, his work with SWIFT Schools, the connections between Mult-Tiered Systems of Support and Universal Design for Learning, and if he agrees with the statement, "inclusion done badly is still better than segregation." His answers might surprise you. 

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SWIFT Schools Videos 

"Together": a SWIFT film on Integrated Educational Framework 

"Whatever it Takes": SWIFT Inclusive Academic Instruction Film 

SWIFT Domains and Features at Henderson School 

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Oct 14, 202101:03:07
Janice Fialka & Sara Jo Soldovieri | What To Say When Families Think Segregated Special Education Classrooms Are Best
Sep 30, 202135:59
Emily Ladau | How To Be an Ally To Disabled People

Emily Ladau | How To Be an Ally To Disabled People

Today on the podcast, we interview Emily Ladau, disability rights activist and author, about her new book Demystifying Disability: What to Know, What to Say, and How to Be an Ally

We discuss why this book needed to be written, if there is only one model of disability that is valid, and we even play a little game called, “is it ableist?”

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Sep 16, 202131:22
Genia Stephen | Good Things In Life Podcast

Genia Stephen | Good Things In Life Podcast

Today on the podcast, we interview Genia Stephen, host of the Good Things in Life podcast. 

We talk about why she started the podcast, what some of the differences and similarities are with the educational systems in the United States and Canada, and if there is such a thing as perfect inclusion.

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Aug 26, 202128:35
Eric Garcia | We're Not Broken: Changing the Autism Conversation

Eric Garcia | We're Not Broken: Changing the Autism Conversation

Today on the podcast, we talk with Eric Garcia, author of "We're Not Broken: Changing the Autism Conversation."

We discuss the biggest misconceptions of autism, why simply existing is not inspirational, and what his dream for the future of a more inclusive world looks like. 

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Aug 12, 202127:56
Marilyn Friend | Co-Teaching

Marilyn Friend | Co-Teaching

Today on the podcast, we talk with Marilyn Friend, expert and author of numerous books and articles on co-teaching. 

We discuss what co-teaching is and what does it look like? Do schools have to provide a co-teaching service model? And how does co-teaching further the practice of inclusive education?

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Jul 29, 202128:28
Sarah Wishart | Excluded: A Young People-Led Film On School Exclusions

Sarah Wishart | Excluded: A Young People-Led Film On School Exclusions

Today on the podcast, we talk with Sarah Wishart, filmmaker of Excluded, a documentary that features the stories and voices of students who have been excluded from school in the United Kingdom. 

We discuss why she was inspired to make the film by something she saw on Twitter and why she thinks exclusion isn’t good for anyone.

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Jul 15, 202127:47
Wyatt Oroke | Having High Expectations for All Students
Jun 24, 202128:34
Melissa McCullough | What Inclusive Preschool Services Look Like
Jun 10, 202131:50
Eddie Fergus | Disproportionality in Special Education
May 20, 202136:13
BONUS: Megan Gross and Nancy Brundrett | What Inclusive Education Looks Like at Poway Unified
Apr 29, 202136:36
Jenny Kurth | Implementing Inclusive Education with Participation Plans
Apr 15, 202132:52
Alfie Kohn | Does Behaviorism Belong in the Classroom?
Mar 18, 202152:16
Katie Novak | Common Misconceptions About UDL
Feb 18, 202126:29
Why I Call Myself An Inclusionist
Jan 22, 202132:42
The Best of Think Inclusive Volume 1

The Best of Think Inclusive Volume 1

Since I started the podcast in 2012, I've always wanted to do a "best of" podcast!

Today, we are highlighting five conversations that I had from the early years of the podcast.

Paula Kluth talks about why some schools aren't as inclusive as they think they are. Dan Habib discusses how Positive Behavioral Interventions and Supports (PBIS) looked for one high school. Julie Causton explains why her research project, called Schools of Promise, shows why inclusion works for all students. Nicole Eredics gives one important strategy for inclusive classrooms. And Scott F shares what it is like to have students with significant disabilities included in his classroom.

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Dec 24, 202033:40
Shelley Moore | What Is All The Fuss About Baked Potatoes?
Nov 26, 202028:02
Jennifer Spencer-Iiams | Leading for All: How to Create Truly Inclusive and Excellent Schools

Jennifer Spencer-Iiams | Leading for All: How to Create Truly Inclusive and Excellent Schools

Today on the podcast, Jennifer Spencer-Iiams, Assistant Superintendent for the West Linn-Wilsonville School District, talks to us about the transformation in her district toward inclusive practices. Her book, Leading for All: How to Create Truly Inclusive and Excellent Schools, shares lessons learned from years building district schools where all students are served in their neighborhood school and classrooms with their general education peers.

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Oct 22, 202026:53
Amy Langerman, Amanda Selogie & Vickie Brett | LRE

Amy Langerman, Amanda Selogie & Vickie Brett | LRE

Discussions around the Least Restrictive Environment (LRE) for students with disabilities are almost always tricky. For this episode, we attempt to make LRE a little more understandable. We interview Amy Langerman, special education advocate and attorney in California and Arizona. We discuss the difficulty of some parents seeking the Least Restrictive Environment for their child and how services are delivered in both states. Next, we have Amanda Selogie and Vickie Brett from the Inclusive Education Project (which is a fantastic podcast if you don’t already know about them). We also discuss LRE and strategies that you can take to help advocate for inclusive education wherever you are on your inclusion journey.

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Sep 17, 202033:38
Carol Quirk | Systems Change and Inclusive Education

Carol Quirk | Systems Change and Inclusive Education

Today on the podcast, my interview with Carol Quirk (CEO of the Maryland Coalition for Inclusive Education). We discuss what it really takes for school systems to move to a model where 90% of all students with disabilities are included in general education classrooms. It is not only a pipe dream.  

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Resources

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The Segregation of Students with Disabilities by the National Disability Council

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Jun 11, 202035:25
BONUS: To Waiver or Not To Waiver / Betsy DeVos Gives Her Recommendations to Congress

BONUS: To Waiver or Not To Waiver / Betsy DeVos Gives Her Recommendations to Congress

For so many of us, whether you are an educator, parent, or both, the COVID-19 pandemic has been a strain on all of us. And in late March, when word got out that Betsy DeVos was going to possibly recommend waiving part of the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) because of the hardship that the coronavirus was putting on the educational system, we all got nervous

Today on the podcast, my interview with Denise Marshall (the Executive Director of Council of Parent Advocates and Attorneys) and Jennifer Lesh (the President of the Council for Exceptional Children) where we discuss Betsy DeVos's recommendations to Congress.

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References

COPAA

CEC (Free Membership Code: CECED60)

NPR: Secretary DeVos Forgoes Waiving Disability Law Amid School Closures

HuffPost: To Access Online Services, New Jersey Students With Disabilities Must Promise Not To Sue

Apr 29, 202031:14
Including Students with Intellectual Disabilities in General Education

Including Students with Intellectual Disabilities in General Education

Today on the podcast, we are going to talk about modifying curriculum. For my students back in Pasadena, CA, according to their IEP, the team agreed that this was the best way to access the curriculum. To take a part of the standards and then modify it down to where they were able to meaningfully participate in it.

I talk with Juanita Pritchard, an intellectual disabilities specialist, about how we can do this for our students who require it. Also, I wanted to share a resource before we get started. Nicole Eredics book, Inclusion in Action, gives specific strategies on how to modify the curriculum for students who are in general education classrooms. I know a lot of educators who are put into a position where they receive no training on how to do this and are just expected to "make inclusion work." If you are one of those educators or know educators who could benefit from this resource direct them to Inclusion in Action.

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Feb 23, 202030:05
Christina Samuels & Jackie Mader | Unprepared Teachers and the Special Educator Shortage

Christina Samuels & Jackie Mader | Unprepared Teachers and the Special Educator Shortage

Today on the podcast, I interview Christina Samuels of Education Week.  We discuss Ed Week's Special Report called Special Education: Practice and Pitfalls. It takes a look at the shortage of special education teachers, how co-teaching strategies enhance the effectiveness of education for all students, and how to encourage parents and students to advocate for their needs.

In 2017, the Hechinger Report published a story about how some educators feel unprepared to teach in classrooms where students with and without disabilities learn together. I wanted to know more about this story, so I invited Jackie Mader, the journalist who wrote the article to talk to me about why this issue was so important to her.

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Nov 02, 201929:47
Mike McHargue & Erin Green | Same-Sex Relationships, Autism, & Inclusion
Oct 01, 201926:33
Julie Causton | Inclusive Schooling

Julie Causton | Inclusive Schooling

Today on the podcast, our guest is Dr. Julie Causton, creator of Inclusive Schooling, an engaging community for educators, administrators, and parents who seek to create more inclusive schools.  We discuss six strategies for families who desire for their children to be educated in an inclusive classroom. 

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Jul 05, 201928:57
Erin Studer | CHIME Institute

Erin Studer | CHIME Institute

Today on the podcast, our guest is Dr. Erin Studer, principal of CHIME charter school. We discuss how CHIME has made full inclusion work since the 90s and how they can serve as a model for what is possible for schools in the United States and beyond. Follow CHIME on Instagram and Twitter!

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Apr 27, 201925:03
Lou Brown | Progress

Lou Brown | Progress

Today on the podcast, our first guest of the new season is Lou Brown, co-founder of TASH (an organization that advocates for human rights and inclusion for people with significant disabilities and support needs) and Professor Emeritus at the University of Wisconsin. 

We discuss what supports for students with significant disabilities looked like before 1975 and the progress that we have made since then.

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Apr 02, 201923:15
Marci Heit | QD Foodie

Marci Heit | QD Foodie

Do you like to play with your food? Of course you do! Today on the podcast we have Marci Heit, the founder of QD Foodie (qdfoodie.com), an innovative company that has produced a fantastic set of kitchen tools created with people of all abilities in mind. Learn the origins of this Kickstarter success story.
Dec 16, 201815:51
Renay Marquez | ParaEducate
Nov 25, 201839:50
Jen Tennican | Hearts of Glass
Nov 04, 201833:57
Annette Jett | Pre-Employment Transition Services
Oct 28, 201849:24
Beckett Haight | Inclusion and Why CompSci Isn't for Everyone
Oct 12, 201834:26
Dan Habib | Intelligent Lives

Dan Habib | Intelligent Lives

Today we have acclaimed filmmaker Dan Habib. We talk about his new film Intelligent Lives, a documentary that highlights the lives of people with intellectual disabilities that will make you rethink the very nature of how we measure intelligence

Sep 18, 201835:36
Nikki Heiman | My Creative Inclusion
Aug 25, 201824:60
Amanda Morin | NCLD and Understood.org
Aug 19, 201831:38
Paula Kluth | Universal Design Daily
Jul 28, 201850:15
Kristin Wiens | Northstar Paths
Jul 21, 201842:08
Noah Jack | Musician on the Autism Spectrum
Jul 14, 201826:12
Rob Horner | The Connection Between PBIS and ABA
Jul 07, 201856:55
Zachary Fenell | The Cerebral Palsy Vigilante
Jun 30, 201847:12
John Spencer | Student Engagement
Jan 07, 201839:02
Arielle Hobbs | The Lion League
Nov 28, 201732:34
Emily Ladau & Kyle Khachadurian | The Accessible Stall
Aug 06, 201741:25
Julia Bascom | Autistic Self Advocacy Network
Apr 12, 201735:20
Disability Studies and the Future of Special Education

Disability Studies and the Future of Special Education

Today you will hear two edited interviews that I did from almost a year ago. The first is with Audri Gomez and Aja McKee, educators that have had experience in the classroom as well in teacher training. They give a unique perspective on how we can prepare teachers who are about to enter into the field of special education and also highlight what a degree in Disability Studies looks like. My second interview is with a Middle School teacher who works here in the Atlanta Metro Area. Her book SPED is about a fictional character, Jack Parker, as he navigates the complexities of having learning disabilities in 8th grade and being in special education.
Apr 14, 201533:41
Debbie Taub | Alternate Assessment and Inclusion
Aug 16, 201459:04
Cheryl Jorgensen | Waiting for Inclusive Education
May 13, 201401:01:45
Russ Ewell | Inclusive Sports Programs
Mar 01, 201450:02
Julie Causton | How Can We Reform Our Schools for Inclusion?

Julie Causton | How Can We Reform Our Schools for Inclusion?

Today I will be speaking with Dr. Julie N Causton, an associate professor in the Department of Teaching and Leadership at Syracuse University and creator of the website Inspire Inclusion which includes a ten-part video series about inclusion for parents of children with disabilities. 

Julie and I discuss the necessary steps for schools to become more inclusive which include, professional development, re-imagining a school district's service delivery model, and using the law as leverage for systems change. 

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Jan 22, 201459:25
Dan Habib | Who Cares About Kelsey?
Sep 28, 201339:38
Ariane Zurcher | A Conversation About Autism
Sep 06, 201355:31
Paula Kluth | Don't We Already Do Inclusion?
Sep 06, 201355:31
The Fialco Family | Starabella

The Fialco Family | Starabella

Today I will be speaking with Marvin, Sharon and Dana Fialco...authors of the Starabella book series. Starabella is a new series of books about a very courageous little girl with learning differences who expresses her thoughts and feelings through music. The books are based on the real life experiences of Marvin and Sharon's daughter, Tara who exhibited a surprising musical talent when she was very young but would later present perplexing challenges. Not able at the time to get a diagnosis, they were left with a mystery. Tara would not be diagnosed with autism until she turned 21. Tara, now an adult, went on to earn a degree in Early Childhood Education. The Fialco's and I discuss what is was like to observe Tara's amazing musical talent and how she developed her voice through melodies and lyrics.
Mar 08, 201344:41
Nicole Eredics | The Inclusive Class
Nov 30, 201234:30