
What's Betwixt Us
By Lyssa Mandel

What's Betwixt UsJan 10, 2022

Episode 037: Around the World with Jakob Thusgaard
On this episode of What’s Betwixt Us, we chat with international SaaS sales whiz Jakob Thusgaard. Jakob is the founder and CEO of YourSales, whose mission is to help organizations all over the world—including zanie!—to scale, reach goals, and connect products and solutions to the people who need them. Jakob was born in Denmark, lives in Amsterdam, has traveled widely, and speaks five languages. He approaches his work and his life with a posture of playfulness and curiosity. We talk about authenticity in sales, international psychology, and how living abroad makes people more accepting of other cultures.
To tap into Jakob’s fascinating brain and to learn how his team can help your organization reach its goals, please visit yoursales.com.
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Episode 036: Coast to Coast and Cover to Cover with Linda Feyder
On this episode of What’s Betwixt Us, we chat with author and licensed psychotherapist Linda Feyder. Linda recently released her new collection of short fiction, All’s Fair and Other California Stories. We discuss the deep kinship between psychology and writing and the human need to both listen and tell stories as a way to know ourselves and each other better.
To learn more about Linda’s practice and her writing, and to buy her book, please visit lindafeyder.com.
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Episode 035: The Good Burdens for Better Connections with Christina Crook
In this episode of "What’s Betwixt Us," you’ll hear a conversation recorded on Instagram Live with author, speaker, and digital well-being expert Christina Crook. We chatted on launch day of her new book, Good Burdens: How to Live Joyfully in the Digital Age. Christina is also the author of The Joy of Missing Out and host of the JOMO(cast) podcast. All of her work focuses on how to balance and find joy in an overwhelming world. Good Burdens champions the idea that leaning away from our culture’s obsession with speed and convenience, and toward effortful intentionality, pays massive spiritual dividends. We talk about the paradox of choice, the longterm value of making commitments, and daily practices that lead to more fulfilling relationships, especially with oneself.
To learn more about Christina’s work and to purchase a copy of Good Burdens for yourself, visit ChristinaCrook.com.
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Episode 034: Subconscious Made Conscious with Jason Acosta
On episode 034 of What’s Betwixt Us, we talk with Life Strategist and Intuitive Coach, Jason Acosta. We take a deep dive into what it means to be an empath, especially as a leader. Jason shares how crisis moments in his life led him to breakthroughs about the importance of rigorous self-reflection and self-care, and to his calling as an energy healer. With history in the hospitality industry, Jason brings first-hand wisdom about how empathy creates productivity and about how you don’t manage everyone the same.
To learn more about Jason, find him on Facebook, where you can check out other interviews he’s done with impactful people around the world.
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Episode 033: If I Lose, So What? with Manpreet Bawa
In episode 033 of "What’s Betwixt Us," we talk with coach, speaker, and self-identified Mind Architect, Manpreet Bawa. Manpreet is passionate about technology, wellness, and where the two intersect. We discuss the process involved in making choices, starting with small, aligned changes, catalyzing wake-up moments, and leaving a legacy to be proud of.
If you want to connect with Manpreet, be sure to find him on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/themanpreetbawa/
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Episode 032: Phoenix Rising with Raj Subrameyer
In this episode of "What's Betwixt Us," we speak with tech career strategist Raj Subrameyer. Raj is an international keynote speaker, coach, and author of the book Skyrocket Your Career. As a former self-proclaimed “toxic leader,” Raj reveals how he walked through the fire of his own life transformation, from being insecurity-driven to harnessing fear as a catalyst to drive him to the next level. We discuss self-experimentation, mindset changes, and helping people create lives they love.
To learn more about Raj's amazing work, please visit rajsubra.com.
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Episode 031: The Skill of the Future with Ajit Dodani
In this episode of What’s Betwixt Us, we speak with the delightful and generous Empathy Strategist, Ajit Dodani. Ajit is the CEO of EmpathifyU. He brings his extensive background in business and finance consulting to his work as a keynote speaker and workshop facilitator, helping companies foster a healthy, positive work culture. We talk about the importance of self-care and self-love, and the need for leaders to learn to recognize and deal with trauma among their employees.
To learn more about how Ajit is helping organizations embrace empathy as a superpower, go to empathifyu.com.
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Episode 030: Connection Before Content with Sue McDonnell
In episode 030 of What's Betwixt Us, we chat with executive coach, team developer, psychotherapist, and self-proclaimed “soulpreneur” Sue McDonnell. Sue combines her years of business experience with her intuitive empathy skills to bring energetic alignment to clients across a variety of industries. We talk about doing vs. being, post-traumatic growth, and listening to the wisdom of your body.
To learn more about Sue’s transformative work for teams, culture, and individuals, please visit http://www.suemcdonnell.com.au.
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Episode 029: The Wisdom of Being Stuck In Between with Sejal Thakkar
In this episode of What’s Betwixt Us, we chat with Sejal Thakkar, an attorney, educator, and TEDx speaker specializing in employment law and human resources training for employers. She’s the self-dubbed Chief Civility Officer of TrainXtra, where she puts her skills and experiences to use helping company cultures thrive. We talk about preemptive empowerment of both employers and employees, the importance of sharing your mistakes, and how a culture of respect at a company starts at the top.
You can find out more about Sejal and watch her TEDx talk on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/sejalthakkar/. To learn more about TrainXtra, visit TrainXtra.com.
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Episode 028: Making Everyone Comfy with Caralie Chrisco
In this episode of What’s Betwixt Us, we talk with with Caralie Chrisco, the People Operations Manager at Chaincode Labs and the Content Lead at Hello Bitcoin. Coming from a background in theater, film and TV as a talent manager, Caralie moved into the tech industry and found her ability to empathize and bring warmth to the table to be a unique asset within the team. We discuss leading by example when it comes to vulnerability, setting boundaries as a woman in tech, and her favorite tools to implement for engagement and wellbeing.
You can learn more about Chaincode Labs at chaincode.com, about Hello Bitcoin at hellobitco.in, and you can find Caralie on Twitter @caralie.c.
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Episode 027: The Human Condition at Work with Asiya Hasan-Damen
Asiya Hasan-Damen joins us for episode 027 of What's Betwixt Us. Asiya is a workplace culture strategist, coach, team-builder, workshop facilitator, and the co-founder of Cultuurloop. We talk about change fatigue, acknowledging the feelings in the room, the resistance that might be present around them, and the empowerment to build a business from scratch if you really believe in it. She discusses how you can still care about people in the workplace and have a bottom line.
To learn more about the great things Asiya is doing, check out cultuurloop.com.
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Episode 026: Empathy Within and Without with Paul Peglar
In this episode of What’s Betwixt Us, we chat with Paul Peglar. Paul is a performer, producer, musical director, and the co-founder and Artistic Director of ECHT, an arts non-profit that believes “authentic expression creates genuine connection.” We talk about the empathy muscles that are naturally built through artistic collaborations and how those skills are transferrable anywhere. We also discuss the importance of learning to meet people where they are, dealing gracefully with big transitions, and the intelligence of the gut.
To learn more about Paul, check out paulpeglar.com, and for deeper insight into what ECHT is all about, visit ECHT.nyc.
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Episode 025: Empathy Between the Pages with Melissa Boles
In today's episode of What's Betwixt Us, we talk with Melissa Boles. Melissa is a lifelong storyteller, writer, and the Marketing Manager at BookClub, which brings authors and readers together via online book clubs, led by the authors themselves. Melissa is passionate about mental health awareness, and we discuss how empathy for mental health issues can be built by reading. We talk about the importance of self-knowledge and self-reflection to raise empathy by talking through what you’re processing.
To learn more about Melissa and read some of her writing, check out MelissaBoles.com. You can also find her on social media @melloftheball, and learn about BookClub at bookclub.com.
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Episode 024: Fighting for Heart in Fashion HR with John Mezzo
In this episode of What's Betwixt Us, we chat with John Mezzo, a human resources executive in the fashion industry. John has lent his heart and expertise to several multibillion dollar global brands including Ralph Lauren, Michael Kors, and Burberry. John shares his story growing up in his family’s friendly neighborhood bakery in Brooklyn, his background in theater, and how he has transferred those skills into his corporate life. We chat about the importance of authenticity, the gray area, and being the most yourself.
To learn more about John and connect with him, you can find him on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-mezzo-humanresources/
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Episode 023: The Body is Our Compass with Rajkumari Neogy
In this episode of What's Betwixt Us, we chat with Rajkumari Neogy. Rajkumari is an executive coach, speaker, and self-professed "AwesomeSauce Alchemist." She is the Founder of the iRestart coaching framework and the Biology of Belonging Bootcamp. Rajkumari uses her expertise in epigenetics and neurobiology to develop empathy in leadership and work culture at companies all over the world. We chat about bringing conscious practices into meetings, the importance of sitting with our own discomfort, the permission to mourn, the value in psychological dynamics in team culture, and the dark side of belonging.
To find out more about Rajkumari and her life-changing coaching programs, visit rajkumarineogy.com.
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Episode 022: Empathy in Ritual with Rabbi Jessica Marshall
On this episode of What's Betwixt Us, we talk with Rabbi Jessica Marshall. Rabbi Marshall discusses her journey in finding a connection to Judaism, going from a traditional setting with a synagogue and congregation to "exploding paradigms” with heart-centered connection. Her work is now focused on building creative, diverse, and personal offerings for lifecycle rituals, retreats, women’s gatherings, and spiritual coaching. We talk about the power of sitting with and witnessing people in pain, seeing everything as an invitation to the sacred, and the wisdom in our hearts that’s as knowledgeable as what’s in our brains.
To learn more about Rabbi Marshall, please visit her website at rabbijessicamarshall.com and on Instagram @rabbijkm.
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Episode 021: Empathy on the Couch with Dr. Gustavo Cutz
In this episode of What’s Betwixt Us, we chat Dr. Gustuvo Cutz. Dr. Gus is a psychologist specializing in CBT, or Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, and DBT, Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. These intense practices are rooted in the importance of the empathetic dynamic between therapist and client, which Gus describes as “radically genuine,” and “a relationship between equals.” Dr. Gus talks about his lifelong curiosity, what he has learned from his fellow therapists and his clients, and why we must always wonder about another’s world experience.
You can check out Dr. Gus’s practice Cognitive Behavioral Associates at cbtreatment.org.
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Episode 020: Empathy LIVE from the IEEE ISTAS Conference
In this episode of What's Betwixt Us, we get an inside look into the creation of zanie and the philosophy behind it from fellow zanie builders Jumana Abu-Ghazaleh (founder and CEO) and Shaina Stigler. This episode was recorded LIVE as part of the IEEE ISTAS Conference, which brings together a variety of pioneers in new and emerging voices in advancing technology. We talk about the transformation of work culture to be more empathetic, the importance of being seen and heard to foster innovation, and what it means to feel safe.
Please visit https://www.ieee.org/ to learn more about the conference advancing technology for humanity.
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Episode 019: Notes Across the Universe with Amy Giddon
In this episode of What's Betwixt Us, we chat with Amy Giddon, the Co-Founder and CEO of Daily Haloha. She talks with us about the story behind this exciting new app that promotes empathy and positivity, the importance of connecting with one another globally, and what inspired Amy to be a pioneer for empathy. She tells us her story working in corporate finance, in women's leadership, and how this paved the path she is pursuing today.
Please visit https://dailyhaloha.com/ to download the app and learn more about the work Amy is doing.
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Episode 018: Kinetic Connections with Bob Kulhan
In this episode of What's Betwixt Us, we are joined by Bob Kulhan. Bob is the Founder and CEO of BusinessImprov and the author of the wonderful book, Getting to Yes, And. Through the corporate training and development he offers through his company and the actionable practices mentioned in his book, Bob is teaching companies how to implement improvisational methods into their work cultures to promote engagement when it comes to communication, teamwork, and empathy. We discuss the psychology of safe spaces, the pillars of reacting, adapting, and communication, and the importance of making others look good both on stage and off.
Be sure to learn more about Bob and the amazing work he is doing by visiting https://businessimprov.com/
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Episode 016: Real Talk for Real Change with Jared Karol
Jared Karol is a speaker, facilitator, and coach who works in Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Belonging. On this episode of What's Betwixt Us, Jared talks with us about his journey and why it's important for cis white men to enter into conversations around DEIB. He shares anecdotes and insights into how to implement empathy at work and the power that is inherent in strategic storytelling.
Please learn more about Jared by visiting https://jaredkarol.com/
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Episode 017: Wonder, Play, & Empathy with Kristin Hanggi
In episode 017 of What's Betwixt Us, we are joined by Tony-nominated Broadway director Kristin Hanggi. Among her many projects for stage and screen, Kristin is also the author of God, Sex, and Musical Theater. Kristin is a deeply inspired, compassionate, and wise coach, mentor, and creative guide. She talks with us about trust in teambuilding, the importance of play in your work, and inner listening. She says, “Fun has a way of unlocking things.”
Please learn more about Kristin by visiting her website at https://www.kristinhanggi.com/.
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Episode 015: Seeing People in Their Best Light with Patrick McAndrew
In this episode of What's Betwixt Us, we are joined by Patrick McAndrew. Patrick is an actor, podcast producer, and tech philosopher who works towards having humanity at the core of all of the projects he pursues. We discuss how acting and improv training helps fuel empathy, the concept of digital wellness, and what it means to be authentic and to create personal brands online.
To learn more about Patrick's work, please visit https://www.patrick-mcandrew.com/.
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Episode 014: Your Truth Is Safe With Me with Bernadette Smith
Bernadette Smith, who is a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion speaker, strategist, and trainer, joins us on What's Betwixt Us for this episode. Bernadette is the author of Gay Wedding Confidential, as well as several other books, and has been featured everywhere--in Forbes, the New York Times, CNN, the Washington Post, the Today Show, the BBC, NPR, Fast Company, and beyond. Bernadette speaks with us about psychological safety, love languages of business, and the "true employee revolution." She brings her raw, honest, and personal experiences of vulnerability to her work and emits unmistakable warmth, and fierce, unbridled optimism.
Please learn more about the amazing work Bernadette is up to by visiting theequalityinstitute.com and signing up for the 5 Things Newsletter.
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Episode 013: Empathy Off-Screen with Jess Kimball Leslie
In this episode of What's Betwixt Us, we chat with Jess Kimball Leslie, the creator, writer and Executive Producer of Kings of America, a forthcoming drama series for Netflix about the Walton family, produced by Amy Adams and Adam McKay. This project is Jess’s first foray into Hollywood, having previously worked as a journalist, writing about tech, the economy, and authoring her book, “I Love My Computer Because My Friends Live In It.” Jess shares her unfiltered passion for justice, equity, and uncovering the truth. She also chats with us about the humbling, empathy-building experiences of pitching, networking, and production for TV.
Please learn more about Jess Kimball Leslie by visiting her on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/jess-kimball-leslie-2362911b4/. Read up about Kings of America in Deadline, IndieWire, or wherever you get your media news and stay tuned to Netflix for the upcoming series release!
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Episode 012: Humans Are The Smartest Machines with Katina Michael
Katina Michael, a professor, speaker, writer, and a passionate pioneer of thought leadership in the future of technology, joins us on this episode of What's Betwixt Us. From the School for the Future of Innovation at Arizona State University to Wollongong University in Australia, Katina’s impressive credentials pale in comparison to her unwavering commitment to deep, expansive compassion and empathy in technology and academia. Through her impactful words, Katina talks with us about how humans truly wield the power for empathy in our everyday lives.
Please explore Katina’s web site, katinamichael.com, where you’ll find her speeches, writings, research, and tons of recommendations for further learning.
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Episode 011: Empathy in the Cloth with Rabbi Karen Glazer Perolman
In episode 011 of What's Betwixt Us, we chat with Rabbi Karen Glazer Perolman. She leads Congregation B’nai Jeshurun in New Jersey and talks about being the first out clergy member of her synagogue. Rabbi Karen is a wealth of knowledge as she shares how she has cultivated empathy through mentoring young people (especially women), handling major lifecycle events with grace, and how, in her words, “Being vulnerable really helps people relate to you.” She also discusses the differences between sympathy and empathy and why its important to distinguish the two.
Please find out more about Rabbi Karen’s Rabbinic journey and her congregational home by visiting https://www.tbj.org/tbjtogether.
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Episode 010: Hecklers Just Need Love with Myq Kaplan
Comedian Myq Kaplan joins us for episode 010 of What's Betwixt Us. Myq has performed on the Tonight Show, Conan, the Late Show with David Letterman, Late Night with Seth Meyers, the Late Late Show with James Corden, and in his own specials on Comedy Central, Netflix and Amazon. He also recently released a new album called A.K.A. In this episode, Myq explores the different facets where empathy shows up in comedy, particularly when interacting with an audience. He breaks down, in his signature stream of consciousness style, how comedy, if performed mindfully, can be one of the most empathetic career pursuits there is.
Please learn more about Myq and his work by visiting http://myqkaplan.com/
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Episode 009: Empathy as Curiosity with Michael Todd Cohen
In this episode of What's Betwixt Us, we chat with Michael Todd Cohen, a content strategist, creator, and brand and marketing specialist. MTC has created work for organizations such as CNN, IBM, Netflix, and American Express and infuses empathy through the lens of curiosity in everything he does. He thrives to place human story at the core of brands and products.
Please visit https://www.michaeltoddcohen.com/ and http://curiouser.co/ to learn more about Michael Todd Cohen and his work.
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Episode 007: Could Be, Who Knows? Empathy in Finance with Lauren Leslie
Lauren Leslie, Director of Investor Relations at a financial firm, joins us in this episode of What's Betwixt Us to talk about empathy in the world of finance. From seeing suits and ties as costumes to being the only woman in the room, Lauren injects empathy into an industry where it is often lacking. She discusses why we may see the work culture of the finance industry pivot towards a greater emphasis on humanity in the near future.
You can learn more about Lauren and connect with her on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/lauren-leslie-8079896/
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Episode 008: Mai Al-Nakib on the Empathy of Words Written & Spoken
Mai Al-Nakib joins us for episode 008 of What's Betwixt Us. Mai is a writer and professor of literature at Kuwait University. Her award-winning book of short stories, The Hidden Light of Objects, tackles big issues of war and family, as well as poignant everyday moments of longing and connection often overlooked. She spent the early part of her life traveling the world and, through traveling, observed human behavior in all its variety of facets. These experiences have led Mai to some deep truths about empathy in the intimacy of our creativity, the rigor of academia, and how we might pass on compassion to the next generation.
To learn more about Mai and her beautiful work, please visit maialnakib.com.
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Episode 006: Equity and Empathy in Social Justice with Elz Cuya Jones
Elz Cuya Jones, the Deputy Director of the North Star Fund, joins us for the next episode of What's Betwixt Us. The North Star Fund is a community foundation working to create a more just and equitable New York. Elz, as an enthusiastic and passionate activist, is a bright spot in a dark time, and she brings her love for grass roots justice, wealth redistribution, and learning deeper empathy onto the job with her every day. In our conversation, she discusses the key to unlocking empathy in the social justice system. Her intelligence and enthusiasm shines right through.
To learn more about Elz, please find her on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/elzcuya/. You can learn more about how the North Star Fund is fighting for justice and equity in New York by visiting northstarfund.org.
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Episode 005: Empathy in the Wings and the Classroom with Barbara Butts
In episode 005 of What's Betwixt Us, we are joined by professional stage manager, activist, and professor at Northwestern University, Barbara Butts. Barbara shares a wealth of wisdom with us on honest communication, dealing with difficult people, and leading and reading the room with diplomacy and finesse. Barbara also shares some key gems in this episode about facilitation and communication that you will want to take with you when this episode concludes.
Please connect with Barbara on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/barbara-a-butts/.
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Episode 004: Cultivating Empathy Between Rocks and Hard Places with Liz Glazer
For episode 004 of What's Betwixt Us, Liz Glazer joins us to talk about cultivating empathy in her life. Liz Glazer is a law professor turned comedian and writer. Her unique take on empathy covers a wide spectrum from her time as a student and teacher to her days as a performer, working in a difficult field that often tests her at every corner. Cultivating empathy and a compassion for oneself is not only ideal; it's mandatory to survive and thrive.
Please visit Liz's website at http://www.dearlizglazer.com/ to learn more about her work.
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Episode 003: How We Bring Empathy to AI with Renée Cummings
Renée Cummings joins us in episode 003 of What's Betwixt Us. Renée is a criminologist, criminal psychologist, and an AI ethicist and strategist. She is the Founder of Urban AI and she provides us with a unique take on empathy and technology and the current biases present within its development. Renée believes deeply in the possibilities of AI, augmented intelligence, and collective intelligence and strives to implement empathy into the design of new technologies.
Please visit https://www.linkedin.com/in/renéecummings/ to learn more about the amazing work she is doing.
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Episode 002: The Intersection of Empathy and Hot Dog Cars with Robin Gelfenbien
In this episode of What's Betwixt Us, we are joined by Robin Gelfenbien. Writer, storyteller, comedian, speaker and creative director, Robin is a ball of energy who wears many hats. She describes herself as an "ambassador of fun," and encourages us all to expect the funexpected. She is the host and creator of the critically-acclaimed storytelling show, "Yum's the Word," for which she makes homemade ice cream cakes. Robin's experience is as diverse as working in advertising from driving the Oscar Meyer Weinermobile. She gives her personal take on empathy and how we can harness it better in the workplace.
You can learn more about Robin by visiting her website at https://www.robingelfenbien.com/.
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Episode 001: Our Avatars, Ourselves: Empathy in Tech with David Ryan Polgar
In our inaugural episode of What's Betwixt Us, we are joined by tech ethicist, David Ryan Polgar. David Ryan Polgar is the founder of All Tech Is Human, which connects the organizations and people of the Responsible Tech movement. He is also an international speaker, commentator and passionate leader on how technology is affecting our lifestyles as humans. We discuss the difference between our physical selves and our online avatars and what this all means in terms of discovering empathy.
You can learn more about David by visiting his website at https://www.davidpolgar.com/ or following him on Twitter @techethicist.
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