
When She Leads
By Brenda Leavenworth
When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth. With over 30 years of ministry experience and a degree in biblical studies, Brenda is uniquely qualified to train and guide the next generation of women leaders in the church. Co-hosts include Rosemary Cady, Kelly Bell, and Krista Fox, each bringing their collective experiences, research, victories, and failures to consider and discuss a range of topics from a biblical and practical perspective.
Have a topic for the show? Share it with us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com!
Have a topic for the show? Share it with us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com!

Friendly Fire
Friendly Fire
When She LeadsMar 15, 2023
00:00
46:46

Friendly Fire
Friendly Fire
In this episode, we are joined by Kelly Bell and Rosemary Cady as we discuss and learn how to deal with conflict, criticism, and confrontation among fellow Christians. Every "friendly fire" situation is unique and requires humility, mercy, wisdom, and prayer. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
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Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
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Mar 15, 202346:46

Navigating Ministry When Life is Painful
Navigating Ministry When Life is Painful
In this episode, we are joined by Janie Alfred in a candid conversation about learning to trust Jesus in the midst of suffering. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
whensheleads.org
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Mar 01, 202343:57

Leading Smaller Churches
Leading Smaller Churches
In this episode, we are joined by Krista Fox and Meka Buffington in a candid conversation about the challenges and joys of leading churches and ministries up to and around a hundred people. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Feb 16, 202344:29

Church Leadership - Giving Women a Seat at the Table
Church Leadership - Giving Women a Seat at the Table
In this episode, we are joined by Jen Bursch, Annie Harley, and Shirley Ruiz in a candid conversation about the necessity and value of the presence of women at the table of church leadership. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Feb 01, 202347:11

Spiritual Gifts - Part 2
Spiritual Gifts - Part 2
In this episode, we are joined by Rosemary Cady and Kelly Bell in a two-part miniseries as we discuss the necessity of spiritual gifts and how to cultivate and discern them today. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Jan 15, 202331:24

Spiritual Gifts - Part 1
Spiritual Gifts - Part 1
In this episode, we are joined by Rosemary Cady and Kelly Bell in a two-part miniseries as we discuss the necessity of spiritual gifts and how to cultivate and discern them today. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Dec 16, 202226:34

Theology, and Why Women Need It
Theology, and Why Women Need It
In this episode, we are joined by Rosemary Cady and Grace Worholic (Paradise Calvary Chapel) as we discuss the importance of practicing good theology within our orthodoxy and orthopraxy within all spheres of ministry and leadership. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Dec 05, 202253:45

Spiritual Disciplines
Spiritual Disciplines
In this episode, Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, and Kelly Bell discuss the process of exercising spiritual disciplines to grow in your faith and confidence in Christ. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Nov 16, 202234:49

Encouraging Young Women In Their Giftings
Encouraging Young Women In Their Giftings
In this episode, Brenda Leavenworth and Krista Fox are joined by Jody Ponce to discuss developing and encouraging younger women to grow in their giftings. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
Please forgive the audio capture issues in this episode.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Nov 01, 202243:43

Developing your Inner Circle of Leaders
Developing your Inner Circle of Leaders
In this episode, Brenda Leavenworth, Kelly Bell, and Rosemary Cady discuss developing a healthy leadership team that effectively serves your ministry and community. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Oct 19, 202239:01

Accountability and Confrontation
Accountability and Confrontation
In this episode, Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, and Kelly Bell discuss biblical accountability and gentle confrontation among those serving in leadership. We pray that we would all approach these situations in humility, wisdom, and Christlikeness.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Oct 10, 202239:32

Bridging Generational Gaps
Bridging Generational Gaps
In this episode, we are joined by Brenda Leavenworth, Jody Ponce, and Rosemary Cady to discuss how we can more effectively disciple through generational shifts. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Sep 07, 202233:45

The Benefits of a Multi-Voiced Ministry
The Benefits of a Multi-Voiced Ministry
In this episode, we are joined by Brenda Leavenworth, Jody Ponce, and Kelly Bell to discuss how having a multi-voiced ministry in your church can help prevent some of the common pitfalls that can occur with a "celebrity" teacher. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Aug 18, 202236:40

When She Leads: Leadership Conference
When She Leads: Leadership Conference
We are excited to invite you and your ministry team to the When She Leads: Leadership Conference on October 21-22, 2022, at Reliance Church in beautiful Temecula, California!
This year's theme is "Breaking New Ground," taken from Hosea 10:12: "Sow for yourselves, with a view to righteousness; harvest in accordance with kindness. Break up your uncultivated ground, for it is time to seek the Lord, until He comes and rains righteousness on you.”
Our desire is to refresh and equip each attendee to lead and serve her church, community, and beyond well and prepared to confront the challenges we face in today’s culture. We are offering three main sessions, a panel discussion with the ladies of the When She Leads Podcast, and breakout sessions that address topics relevant to women in ministry. There will also be a special gathering for pastors’ wives and ministry directors to connect and be encouraged in fellowship!
Come and bring your team and let’s seek the Lord together!
3 Main Sessions
Breakout Sessions
Live Q & A Panel and much more
REGISTER HERE
Aug 08, 202201:25

Servant Team Training
Servant Team Training
In this episode, we are joined by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox and Rosemary Cady to discuss good practices and policies when training new servants for leadership within the church. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Aug 01, 202249:07

Church Planting with Female Leadership
Church Planting with Female Leadership
In this episode, we are joined by Nick Cady, Cara Denny, and Ted Leavenworth to discuss the importance and role of female leadership during the process of planting a new church. They each recount their own unique firsthand experiences and challenges they have faced, with the prayer that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.comFollow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Jul 26, 202254:04

Disabilities and Special Needs in Ministry
Disabilities and Special Needs in Ministry
In this episode, we are joined by Kristine Flores as we discuss our experiences with ministering to and living with those with disabilities and special needs. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.comFollow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Jun 09, 202254:35

Dealing with Conflict and Difficult People
Dealing with Conflict and Difficult People
In this episode, we talk through our experiences with navigating interpersonal conflict in ministry. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.comFollow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
May 17, 202240:15

Balancing Family, Career, and Ministry
Balancing Family, Career, and Ministry
In this episode, we talk through our experiences with learning to balance our attention and time when it comes to the various aspects of our lives. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.comFollow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
May 05, 202249:22

Trauma Within Human Trafficking - Part 2
Trauma Within Human Trafficking - Part 2
In this episode, we continue our discussion on ministering to and counseling those who have experienced sexual trauma and abuse from human trafficking. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
Resources:
Counseling Through Your Bible - Julie Hunt
Helping Victims of Sexual Abuse: A Sensitive Biblical Guide - Jeanette Vought and Lynn Heitritter
Paid For: My Journey Through Prostitution - Rachel Moran
In Pursuit of Love: One Woman's Journey from Trafficked to Triumphant - Rebecca Bender
Trauma Counseling: Theories and Interventions - Lisa Lopez Levers
Generous Justice: How God's Grace Makes Us Just - Timothy Keller
The Justice Calling: Where Passion Meets Perseverance - Bethany H. Hoang and Kristen Deede Johnson
The Hole in Our Gospel: What Does God Expect of Us? - Richard Stearns
Ending Human Trafficking Podcast
National Human Trafficking Hotline | 1-(888)-373-7888 | humantraffickinghotline.org
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.comFollow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Apr 04, 202238:31

Trauma Within Human Trafficking - Part 1
Trauma Within Human Trafficking - Part 1
In this episode, we discuss ministering to and counseling those who have experienced sexual trauma and abuse from human trafficking. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
Resources:
Counseling Through Your Bible - Julie Hunt
Helping Victims of Sexual Abuse: A Sensitive Biblical Guide - Jeanette Vought and Lynn Heitritter
Paid For: My Journey Through Prostitution - Rachel Moran
In Pursuit of Love: One Woman's Journey from Trafficked to Triumphant - Rebecca Bender
Trauma Counseling: Theories and Interventions - Lisa Lopez Levers
Generous Justice: How God's Grace Makes Us Just - Timothy Keller
The Justice Calling: Where Passion Meets Perseverance - Bethany H. Hoang and Kristen Deede Johnson
The Hole in Our Gospel: What Does God Expect of Us? - Richard Stearns
Ending Human Trafficking Podcast
National Human Trafficking Hotline | 1-(888)-373-7888 | humantraffickinghotline.org
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.comFollow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Mar 15, 202233:51

Unity
Unity
In this episode, we talk through our experiences with learning to serve with the mind of Christ in cultivating and promoting unity in our churches. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.comFollow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Mar 01, 202244:40

Leading People to Evangelize
Leading People to Evangelize
In this episode, we talk through our experiences with sharing our faith and identifying the gift of evangelism in those in our ministry. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.comFollow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Feb 15, 202243:28

Servant Appreciation | Do's and Don'ts
Servant Appreciation | Do's and Don'ts
We're very blessed to serve alongside some faithful servants over the years. In this episode, we talk through our experiences with showing love and appreciation, as well as the ways we’ve failed to appreciate those we serve with. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.comFollow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Feb 01, 202235:45

Leading with Joy (In Seasons of Loneliness)
Leading with Joy (In Seasons of Loneliness)
In this episode, we talk through our experiences with loneliness in ministry and finding joy in God's presence. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Krista Fox, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.comFollow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Jan 15, 202231:35

Reaching Our Communities | Holidays
Reaching Our Communities | Holidays
Today on When She Leads, we talk through how to practically and effectively in-reach and out-reach to our communities, specifically during the Holiday seasons.
Reference Article by Rosemary Cady
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Jenn Benham, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.comFollow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Dec 01, 202137:52

Reaching Our Communities | Outreach
Reaching Our Communities | Outreach
Today on When She Leads, we talk through how to practically and effectively reach out to our communities.
There are many outreach resources we can work with through humanitarian organizations, local ministry opportunities, and partnerships with other churches. As leaders, how do we lead the charge? What does the Bible say about outreach?
Reference Article by Kelly Bell.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Jenn Benham, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.comFollow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Nov 15, 202137:42

The Pastor's Wife and Friendships
The Pastor's Wife and Friendships
It’s been said, “Being a Pastor’s wife is the loneliest role in the church,” and we would generally agree. Although we wouldn’t say, “I’m lonely,” we often feel alone. In this episode, we talk through the complexities in navigating friendships distinctive to the Pastor’s wife.
Reference Article by Brenda Leavenworth.
Book Recommendations:
Help! I'm Married to My Pastor - Jani Ortlund
Sacred Privilege: Your Life and Ministry As a Pastor's Wife - Kay Warren
The Privilege: Lessons from the Heart of A Shepherdess - Kay Smith
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Jenn Benham, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Nov 15, 202145:56

Developing or Revamping a Women's Ministry - Part 2
Developing or Revamping a Women's Ministry - Part 2
In this episode, we talk through the processes and nuances of developing and bringing new life into a women's ministry. In light of the COVID-19 pandemic, we discuss the ways we’ve had to readjust or change how we lead women's ministry.
Reference Article by Jody Ponce.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Jenn Benham, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Oct 14, 202150:20

Developing or Revamping a Women's Ministry - Part 1
Developing or Revamping a Women's Ministry - Part 1
In this episode, we talk through the processes and nuances of developing and bringing new life into a women's ministry. In light of the COVID-19 pandemic, we discuss the ways we’ve had to readjust or change how we lead women's ministry.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Jenn Benham, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Oct 14, 202147:26

Leading Through Seasons of Doubt
Leading Through Seasons of Doubt
Today, on When She Leads, we talk through the complexities and nuances of leading through seasons of doubt. We will be discussing some common “doubts” we all experience and some tools we can share with others to help them come to a better understanding of God’s goodness and sovereignty. This will hopefully help them become more confident, not in their faith, but in the object of their faith, God Himself, who continues to pour out His blessings despite our doubt.
Reference article on leading someone through doubt by Kelly Bell.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Jenn Benham, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Sep 15, 202140:19

Should a Church Have a Women's Ministry?
Should a Church Have a Women's Ministry?
Today, on When She Leads, we are discussing the question: should a church have a women's ministry? Women's ministries come in all shapes and sizes and we'll discuss all the facets and how it can be effective and healthy.
Reference article by Rosemary Cady.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Jenn Benham, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Aug 15, 202138:23

Becoming a Leader God Can Use
Becoming a Leader God Can Use
You are a leader, whether you like it or not. As followers of Jesus Christ, we are all called to spiritually lead others toward the goodness of God. Today, on When She Leads, we will discuss what it means to be an effective spiritual leader in a world that rejects Christian principles, including character building and leadership competencies, and provide practical steps you can take to become the leader this world needs.
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When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth, Jenn Benham, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell.
Email us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com
Follow us on Instagram at @whensheleads
Jul 15, 202137:51

When She Leads Trailer
When She Leads Trailer
When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth. With over 30 years of ministry experience and a degree in biblical studies, Brenda is uniquely qualified to train and guide the next generation of women leaders in the church. Co-hosts include Jenn Benham, Rosemary Cady, and Kelly Bell, and Krista Fox each bringing their collective experiences, research, victories, and failures to consider and discuss a range of topics from a biblical and practical perspective.
Have a topic for the show? Share it with us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com!
May 20, 202100:55