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We're Totally (Not) OK

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Caleigh & Justin explore the intersection between mass media culture & mental health. We bring on entertainment industry professionals to talk about any and everything - but especially how they stay sane day to day!
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"Digging in the Dirt" (Part 2) w/ Omar & Dylan

We're Totally (Not) OKAug 25, 2020

Demystifying Method Acting w/ Rachel Bailit
May 05, 202152:26
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Apr 28, 202101:14:48
Story Principles w/ Rodrigo Portaro

Story Principles w/ Rodrigo Portaro

Story’s all around us — selling us, buying us, moving us, halting us. But what the heck is it? How do advertisers and screenwriters and friends and fam use it? Gimme the basics, WTNOK!

New friend and long time Story Creator Rodrigo Portaro breaks Story down into basics. He also shares his own story about leaving a career that was making him sad and finding his new path in life, helping others tell stories. Shove us in your earholes to listen to the… story.

Rodrigo Portaro:



Instagram (but it is in Portuguese)



Justin: Christmas music, meow! Don’t matter that it ain’t Christmas! (Just cuz it’s April don’t mean it ain’t currently snowing in Canada, baybeeee 😂)

Cales: Unplug. (Especially when the universe forces you to when you get too wrapped up in being busy.)

Rodrigo’s Recommended Books:

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Apr 21, 202101:24:22
Composers & Concussions w/ David Federman

Composers & Concussions w/ David Federman

From frequencies and ethics around shaping sound for film to working with masters and having an actual dragon as a part of production, composer David Federman chats with Cales about the work they’ve done together and the journeys he’s experienced along his trajectory as a music maker in the film industry, including all the Spanish dancing and concussions along the way!


David: I'm the arranger/orchestrator of Back and Forth (music/book/lyrics by Dayjan Lesmond), which is a musical about... totally not being okay. It explores the artist's journey and struggles with mental health... and by the way, we have a dragon. Avail to watch here:

Cales: Meet yourself where you’re at. 

Justin: sneakin’ in there via Happs audience member Frank’s “⏱” post (fun lil Easter egg for ya beauty live viewers!)

Additional links:

David Federman:

@federmusik on FB, TW, and IG.

“The Monster in Me”

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Apr 19, 202101:30:17
The Glossy Things w/Jessica Schmiedchen

The Glossy Things w/Jessica Schmiedchen

Captivating. Keen. Killin’ it with the analogies. We zoom-sat-chat with Jessica Schmiedchen to hear how she balances being a mom with her role as a CBC TV exec and all the notes in between (specifically, those given around the dinner table). AND! The coach you never knew you needed until you got a platinum pixie cut!

Jessica: Yoga With Adriene (
Cales: Home-made disinfectant spray [80% rubbing alcohol, freshly squeezed aloe vera, and your fav essential oils for fragrance]
Justin: Reach out!

Theme music by Tessa Good & Petr Balaz

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Apr 07, 202151:39
Zoom Date w/Meagan Allison-Hancock

Zoom Date w/Meagan Allison-Hancock

ZOOM DATE with Meagan... ok not a zoom date, we’re still on @happsnews but we talk about zoom dating. And life as a talent agent. And a cat that walked out of a house fire as the sole survivor.

Down to earth gab fest full of real talk, peloton and mugs of wine. Shove us in yer earholes, babes.



Cales: Saje essential oils (they’re delicious).

Meagan: Library

Justin: Dumplings from scratch

Theme music by Tessa Good & Petr Balaz

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Apr 02, 202101:07:11
Lazer Pirates w/Mike Donis

Lazer Pirates w/Mike Donis

Is art in the doing or in the result; in the act or the product? This was a night-long conversation Cales had with her grand pal Donis & we decided to continue it on in a WTNOK episode to not only watch Cales’ head almost spin off its axle, but so y’all could be privy to how effing cool of a pirate Mike Donis is — filmmaker, director, editor, actor, and yes, an actual pirate. Shove us in yer ear holes for clarification (& antics). 

Donis on  Instagram: @mikedonis 

“ on Twitter (which he never uses): also @mikedonis 

Check out more from his composer for “Pete Winning” here: and on insta:


Cool things:

Donis: “For my own mental health, I wake up every day at least two hours before I have to leave home. I essentially just sit by myself for the first hour, before starting to get ready to leave during the second hour. No matter how early I have to get up, 95% of the time I do the two-hours thing. It helps me feel settled before gearing up for the day.”

Cales: jeans (but also something significantly deeper, mentioned mid-ep, which none of us could remember by the end, so maybe not so deep actually, but rather than re-listening to her own voice again, yay, a fun Easter egg for you!)

Justin: Drawing as an act of mediation! 

Theme music by Tessa Good & Petr Balaz

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Mar 26, 202101:14:50
Inclusive Politics w/DavKat

Inclusive Politics w/DavKat

Dav, like Cales, doesn’t necessarily care for labels, though several deem her a sensational journalist and we feel confident enough saying she is a delightfully passionate conversationalist and bright, shiny soul!

This gal can not only talk up a storm but has the gumption and confidence to keep advancing her own conversations on her own platforms, even in the face of adversarial voices. She opens up about personal prompts to want to be vocal, political plies that fuel her fire, and references one of Cales’ favourite poets with a quote we cannot help but share here again:

“The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.”
    ⁃    William Butler Yeats

Dav: self-compassion
Cales: “Opening Scenes” Scriptnotes episode (
Justin: Onesies & March of Remembrance and Hope Canada (

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Mar 25, 202101:29:23
Excuse this Interruption w/Revolution MacInnes

Excuse this Interruption w/Revolution MacInnes

TRIGGER WARNING! Sensitive topics discussed!

Watch this Ep on Youtube:

Has isolation offered us a sense of “more time?” Have social apps that “bring us together” made us feel “less alone?” Has having these technologies at our disposal or even roofs over our heads left us feeling “less stressed” or “more put together?” Honestly, NOPE.

Today’s guest makes us feel OK about not always feeling OK, opening up about personal moments of vulnerability — being homeless, having packages arrive in the middle of an interview, pushing forward in the fight to fight the good fight that often feels like a fight with yourself.

Revolution has his own @HappsNews show, where he aims to create space for good conversation with good-hearted people and, as he was the one who introduced us to the platform, he also shares a bunch of things he loves about the community!

Find more of Rev here:
Twitter: @RevMacLive
Happs: @RevMacLive
IG: @revmaclive


Rev: @HappsNews
Cales: Thank you. (You’re welcome.)

Mar 17, 202101:04:50
Almost Oscar w/Gavin Michael Booth

Almost Oscar w/Gavin Michael Booth


WE MOVED! We’re LIVE! We’re on @HappsTV! And we also forgot to introduce ourselves in this episode because we were SO FREAKING EXCITED. So allow us to do so now. 

Hello, and welcome to We’re Totally (Not) OK. 

But that’s OK.

A podcast about the intersection between mass media culture and mental health. 

I’m Caleigh Le Grand.

And I’m Justin Van Lieshout.

And we promise to try to remember things that make you feel comfortable and nostalgic and just plain informed because basics, right?


We’re hashtag blessed to have a dear friend, Gavin Michael Booth, as our first episode for season three, because he’s literally perfect for our podcast — a filmmaker who just released his film precisely dealing with intricacies of mental health. Gavin tells us about some of the challenges he faced putting together his double-single-take feature film (yes, you read that right), shares his insanely adorable dog (which you can actually see if ya head over to Happs TV to catch the broadcast replay), and we all get to interact with fans who watched and commented live-time while we conducted the interview!

Check out more of Gavin's work:

Mar 10, 202101:06:01
"Digging in the Dirt" (Part 2) w/ Omar & Dylan

"Digging in the Dirt" (Part 2) w/ Omar & Dylan

Don’t start here! Go one ep back! This is part 2 of 2 of our conversation with documentary filmmakers Omar Mouallem and Dylan Rhys Howard, creators of “Digging in the Dirt” — a documentary film about addiction, suicide, and men's mental health in the Alberta oil sands. Find it on CBC Gem, and listen on to hear them share views on things like:

How do we think about work? Is productivity worth more than life itself? Not sure anyone would openly conquer, but what does our economy’s last — oh, I don’t know — few hundred years reflect? How much of our identities are intrinsically tied into our occupational endeavours? Is work the epitome of our cultural values? Is there that much more of a culture of silence around men’s mental health, given our hegemonic ideologies about masculinity? Does reporting on suicide expose and curb paths that lead to them or encourage copycats? What kind of fear is good to have as a journalist? Emotionally, how does communication like texting or typing differ from speaking the words from your mouth?

So. Many. Questions.

They also open up about their own mental health whilst working on a documentary about suicide. Spoiler alert: one starts going to therapy, the other claims to have been going to therapy long before it was cool.

Let’s get deep and have fun about it.

E-book: Mindset: Reporting on Mental Health

“Digging in the Dirt” on CBC Gem:

Cool Things:


SPJ Code of Ethics


Coffee grounds (obvi) but for plants!

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This interview was recorded on June 4, 2020

Aug 25, 202051:03
"Digging in the Dirt" w/ Omar & Dylan
Jul 14, 202053:44
Crying Out Loud w/ Alexie & Shannon
Jul 07, 202041:11
Spiritual Rocks w/ Naranjan Nota
Jun 30, 202055:06
Find Your Tribe w/ BDB Productions

Find Your Tribe w/ BDB Productions

It’s friends like these that make us miss being in each other’s personal presence that much more and also friends like these that remind us what presence even means — as actors, as producers, as creative forces of nature. Four of BDB Productions’ team members — Franckie Francois, Lovell Adams-Gray,  Adrian Walters, and Emmanuel Ofori — join us to share how they came together as actors in times of strife and began finding their own individual voices as well as that of their collective to tell underrepresented stories. They talk about their first steps as new producers, what the production landscape looks like in a rapidly changing industry with new COVID-19 related safety measures and regulations, shining light on the Black Lives Matter conversation and presenting different voices within the black community through their art, balancing self-belief and faith in something greater, and finding their tribe that made all the difference in moving forward. Everything culminates in a heated debate that we all turn over to you, the audience. To help us settle the debate, share your voice at


"Da 5 Bloods" from Spike Lee (Netflix)
"The Autobiography of Malcolm X" by Alex Haley (dictated by Malcolm X)
"Revolutionary Suicide" by Huey P. Newton
Autobiography of Marcus Garvey
"The Wretched of the Earth" by Frantz Fanon
"Lost cities of Africa" by Basil Davidson

Meditation with Insight Timer

"Tokyo Ghoul" written and illustrated by Sui Ishida
"The Four Agreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom" by Don Miguel Ruiz

"The Five Love Languages" by Gary Chapman

"so what?"

BDB Productions (& being on top of proper plugs)


BDB Productions

Franckie Francois
insta: @franckiefrancois

Lovell Adams-Gray
insta: @lovelladamsgray

Adrian Walters
insta: @AdrianWalters_
twitter: Adrian Walters

Emmanuel Ofori
insta: @doitfortheculture1

Theme music by Tessa Gooden & Petr Balaz

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Jun 23, 202001:37:24
Cocktails & Creatives w/ Navin Ramaswaran

Cocktails & Creatives w/ Navin Ramaswaran

We’re still isolating. So, we Zoom’d with Cales’ good pal Navin Ramaswaran — director, editor, classic cocktail consumer extraordinaire — to chat about post-set blues, how he chooses his creative teams and prepares as both a commercial and narrative film director, and how he celebrated his 40th birthday in isolation with a bartender wife! Y’also get to hear just how gross some of Cales’ shut-in meals have been and, honestly, it’s wholly due to laziness -- she had proper meal foods.

Cool Things:


  • Siiiiiiick Harley Quinn graphic tee from
  • Frequency IMDb link (Love how Cales called it a father-daughter flick, when it's about the son. We remember what we want 🤷🏻‍♀️)
  • Filmmaker Oriol Paulo (Films to check on flix: “The Invisible Witness” and “Mirage”)



  • Dump card. What’s a dump card? Ohhhh, baby. Listen. Listen, Linda! (And check out our IG story for visual aids.)
  • Mom-made Calvin and Hobbes birthday painting

Theme music by Tessa Gooden & Petr Balaz

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May 27, 202001:00:26
Disney Princesses w/Carly Holt

Disney Princesses w/Carly Holt

Anybody up for tea? This week we're jumping across the pond and talking to Carly Holt about her experience moving from Toronto Ontario to London England. She opens up about never settling for less than perfect and the challenges of leaving behind the opportunities you have while starting fresh. 

This episode was recorded over a video chat thanks to COVID! We've been working hard to keep content from a number of perspectives coming to your ear holes, so please don't mind the short delays or lack of studio quality. We love these convos. We love these people. And we want to share them no matter which pandemic gets in the way. 


Carly: selective consumption (you don't HAVE to watch the tiger king)

Cales: Visualization and 

Justin: Gratitude Journal/Bullet Journal

May 20, 202050:01
We're Totally (Now) Kinky w/ Erin Pim
May 05, 202056:51
Washing Machine Macaroni w/ David Elmaleh
Mar 31, 202056:03
Mar 24, 202033:24
Wildlings w/Sarah Ney
Mar 19, 202001:04:38
Bollywood Teeth w/ Sharadha Ramjit
Mar 12, 202050:41
Host with the Most w/Justin

Host with the Most w/Justin

Well firstly: Welcome to Season Two!  

We've got lots of exciting news to share this season, with a lineup of awesome guests and interesting people. BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT; Let's spend a bit of time getting to know Tanya 2.0 (AKA Justin!). 

From theatre, to interior design, and beyond, Justin sits down and shares a little bit of his experience including how he and Cales met! It's a doozy.  We also talk about SIM Card boys, traveling the globe, and much much more.  While it's bitter sweet to say goodbye to Tanya, it's time to say hello to Justin.  

FUN NEW THING: Submit your questions, thoughts, and favourite musical through the very FREE anchor app. Follow this link to get featured in our Podcast! 

ALSO FUN ALSO FUN (ALSO THANK YOU) THING: WE HAVE NEW MUSIC! @tessamusic & @producer.pete are the magnificent wizards behind the composition of our new theme tunes. Fall in love with the beats they've made for us all (and mega thanks for keeping @tanyabevan_'s treasured laugh off the top & letting @cales drop some vocals on the track -- she's tickled pink)!

Justin's Cool Thing: Graffiti (The Wynwood Walls) 

Cale's Cool Thing: Grandfather's Ham Radio Mic 

Where You Can Find Us Check us out on Instagram (@wtn_ok) Or Facebook (@WereTotallyNotOK) And even Twitter (@wtnotok) Cales has a page on her website (Justin is working on his): and Sonar does too: All of our info to Podcast Locations and more can be found on our Anchor Landing page: 

Have a question? Thought? Random fact? Cool thing? Shoot them to or submit them via here:

Mar 05, 202045:46
 Bye Bye Bitty w/ Tanya Bevan

Bye Bye Bitty w/ Tanya Bevan

She did it, folks! She flew south! (T minus one week ’til I get to visit her) and holy bejeezus do we miss her! Bitty’s been working on her O1 Visa for quite some time now. What does that mean and what has the process been like for her, as an actor, trying to make the jump across the border? Find this out and more (i.e.: some differences between Hollywood & Hollywood North, how an American production shooting  in Canada might affect Canadian actors, what differs an agent from a manager, and how an actor not only has to search for their own self-identity but must wittingly & carefully shape their persona — or “hit,” if you will — as she builds her career) by shoving this in your earholes and shedding a single tear from each eye simultaneously à la Demi Moore in Ghost because we’re actors and that’s how we support one another. Bitty Bae, we wish you all the best and are SO STOKED to watch you grow and play and sprinkle your glittery dreams across the globe. This episode is sponsored by Hiii, the dating app with icebreaker games and quizzes for creative, interesting people. We even made a quiz for it (so fun)! Take our hilariously merrymaking quiz at hiiiiiiiii Justin. byeeeeeeee Bitty. 🦄🦄🦄 C&J&T One Cool Things: Bitty’s “Everything is Fucked: A Book About Hope” by Mark Manson Justin’s Bumbering, as is done in “The Importance of Being Earnest” by Oscar Wilde Cales’ “Walden” by Henry David Thoreau
Feb 18, 202052:51
SOMEBODY DATE US! w/ Carley, Lauren & Asal

SOMEBODY DATE US! w/ Carley, Lauren & Asal

Woah! The tables have turned and WE get interviewed! Tanya and Cales head over to Carley, Lauren & Asal's studio to spill the dishies on the fishies they've been dating... and on times with empty ponds. It's also WORLD MENTAL HEALTH DAY! So, the girls from the Somebody Date Us podcast ask us a bunch of personal questions that have answers we never would have shared with you otherwise! So, head on over their way and check out some of their other chats once you're done letting us embarrass ourselves.  Oh, and we even managed to reel in a couple o' cool things this ep! COOL THINGS: Carley's:Undersea cables AKA THE DARK NET Tanya's:Naps. What else? Cales':Be a dumb kid.

Feb 15, 202054:54
Do(n’t read) Yoga w/Shehla Khan

Do(n’t read) Yoga w/Shehla Khan

THIS EP ACTUALLY AIRED ON OCTOBER 18th! We had technical difficulties. Please forgive us. 

When Cales & Tanya took their yoga teacher training courses at The Yoga Sanctuary downtown Toronto, Shehla Khan taught them the history and philosophy of yoga’s lineage and traditions. While their world views and behavioural practices have shifted and expanded, they’ve also learned that those months of lectures, books and studies were just the tip of the iceberg. In this episode, we get a little deeper, testing the waters of our existence through conversations on the unconscious, tantra, chaos and order, heart rate variability, how our throats are connected to space, and why you shouldn’t read articles about yoga. Again, we’re left off feeling like we’ve just scratched the surface. So, sorry if you’re left wanting more but, hey, that just makes you human. One Cool Things: Shehla’s Yoga Nidra Cales’ Great news! Shehla’s next Yoga Nidra Workshop is ON! It’s happening March 20-21, 2020. It’s a 6 hour workshop for $225 (get your early bird special on before March 1st). Go to for details. If you can’t make this one, don’t fret — send us a DM on instagram @WTN_OK or email us at and we’ll put together another one when there’s another wave of interest! Tanya’s (No)thing

Dec 14, 201901:05:13
Toronto After Dark w/ Lee Lawson
Oct 22, 201901:00:41
EAT. SLEEP. GROSS. w/ Luke DePron
Sep 27, 201953:54
Neuroplasticity w/ Kristina Virro

Neuroplasticity w/ Kristina Virro

Kristina Virro is a Psychotherapist and Holistic Nutritionist. She sat down with us in between her busy schedule to chat about the type of mental health help she offers others as well as the kind of help she gives herself. She dives into neuroplasticity, describing how we can rewire our brains through action and thought. You can find her book, ‘The Anxious Teen’ via her website: ONE COOL THINGS: Kristina Morning & evenings texts to partner: - AM: What are you looking forward to? - PM: What are you grateful for? 
Tanya Dr. Amen & Tana Amen Cales Adobe Capture: Betty Boop (on our insta!) Flux & other apps for blue light/orange light
Aug 05, 201950:07
Wannabe Balanced w/ Crystal Escobar
Jun 04, 201949:21
Tangible Movement w/ Torri Shack
Mar 15, 201901:04:01
Confidently Weird w/ Stacey Russell

Confidently Weird w/ Stacey Russell

Move over, Stacey’s Mom. It’s your daughter who’s got it goin’ on with STACEYSECRETS.COM. Stacey Russell, creator of Stacey’s Secrets, is a Social Media Curator and all-around magical human. She breaks down what her job title entails, what it’s like to work in a world of likes and follows, and how she empowers other women with their online businesses. Happy (now belated) birthday to Stacey and now HAPPY BDAY FROM Stacey to ALL OF YOU! Use the special promo code “instabirthday” to get $50 off all of Stacey’s courses on! #FAIRWARNING: Bitty swears more than usual. (See if you can suss out her true feelings over the concept of instagram followers.) 1 Cool Things Stacey’s @goddessbosscoven “The Bill Murray Stories” (Netflix) Cales’ Witnessing. Be an observer in your own life. Also Tarot. For her and for the characters in her screenplays, because sometimes they get lost, too, and as a writer, YOU’RE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE (/KILL) THEM. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Tanya’s “American Meme” (Netflix) Also rage. Just, like, in general, rage. (Which will lead perfectly into the RAGE YOGA classes Tanya & Cales plan on teaching.)
Feb 18, 201901:11:52
You Are What You Act w/ Albert Nerenberg

You Are What You Act w/ Albert Nerenberg

Wonder how action heroes from movies become action heroes in real life? Curious as to what the difference is between North American actors and British ones? Want to fall in love? Get As to these Qs (and find out what “sexy dots” are) from our interview with Canadian filmmaker & laughologist Albert Nerenberg, whose documentary You Are What You Act hits the Documentary Channel on January 7th. Experts in the film ask: Will changing your posture make you more confident? Can you fall in love by acting in love?  Can you become brave by acting brave? If you walk around like you are lost, will you become a loser? They may sound crazy but they’re not. They’re from Stanford University, The Washington Post, University of British Columbia, University of California at Berkeley, among other leading institutions. Find out more (and experience fun “actorcize” exercises) at Cool Things Cales’: Errrthing John Mulaney Tanya’s: Errrthing Nick Kroll Netflix. Heard of it? After you’ve checked out errrthing Albert, support all these no-namers. They need love, too.
Jan 04, 201901:28:10
Immaculate Shitception w/ Kristian Bruun (pt 2 of POO)
Dec 21, 201802:26:00
Shit Hath No Class w/ Kristian Bruun (pt 1 of 2)

Shit Hath No Class w/ Kristian Bruun (pt 1 of 2)

Yo, our guest Kristian Bruun is one of the BEST HUMANS ON EARTH. He's ours, don't forget it -- he was born in Toronto General Hospital. So, just because he moved to LA don't mean he's anyone else's. We still get to be his best friend first. (It does, however, mean we all get to hear about differences between the 6 and la la land of dreams.) Also, this kid is dope smart, hella talented, and gets super weird with us, which is why we fucking love him. Here's part 1 of 2 in your dreams coming true.

1 Cool Things:

Kristian's 1 Cool Thing:
You're gonna have to tune into poop 2.

Tanya's 1 Cool Thing:
Still pooping.

Cales' 1 Poo Thing:
Fucking listen to numero deuce.

Dec 02, 201801:54:48
Due South Passion & William Shatner Small Talk w/ Sarah Davis
Oct 24, 201801:13:19
All Dressed & All Spicy w/ Filipe Dimas
Sep 25, 201855:48
B.A.B.E. Toronto w/ Macy Cheng

B.A.B.E. Toronto w/ Macy Cheng

ATTN: THIS FRIDAY is our very first #BABETRAIN interview series at an incredible event: the B.A.B.E. Toronto’s One Year Anniversary Party, brought to you by the one and only, humble and unwittingly hard-working Macy Cheng, founder of B.A.B.E. Toronto and We’ll be hosting a SIT & REPEAT — much like the step and repeat of a red carpet, we’ll have wonderful guests but they’ll actually take a hot second to answer some of our questions and introduce themselves to you via our insta live feed (@wtn_ok) from the event. More importantly (and coming at you RIGHT MEOW), we sat down with the wondrous Miss Macy Cheng to chat about her growth, both IRL & in the digi-world; how she keeps her cool under fire; and the friendships she’s made that she never expected. (Also, how she’s essentially a professional friend, Tanya makes physical gestures you can hear over the pod-waves, and I analogously equate almost everything to superheroes). If you want to be a real cool venue that hosts an even cooler event, get at this B.A.B.E. for her next shindig! And if you wanna catch some live footage of our hot, hot action, tap dat heart & follow on Insta: @wtn_ok Chirp @ us on Twitter: @@WTnotOK Macy Cheng B.A.B.E. Toronto @macycheng.styles Cales’ Cool Thing Bitty’s Cool Thing Morning Mindfulness Macy’s Cool Thing WTNOK! @WTN_OK @WTnotOK #wtnok #WHATtheNOTok #BABETRAIN
Sep 12, 201801:13:12
Baby Menopause w/ Annick Sheedy McLellan

Baby Menopause w/ Annick Sheedy McLellan

If you’ve ever wondered what the difference is between an actress and doing hard core porn, you’re probably one of the people we make fun of in this episode. Fellow hilarious actress Annick Sheedy McLellan is some of the most powerful stardust we’ve ever had the privilege to sit and chat with. Listen to her weigh in on what it feels like to have to talk about what we do for work and let her astound you with the unknown prowess she possesses maneuvering her way through this insanely challenging industry whilst managing more invisible illnesses than she can sometimes even remember. Trust us, you’ll want to ignite your own spark after listening to this baby in menopause. Also, shout out to Saje (in our “Cool Things” ending segment, so…. sponsor us?) Cool Things: Lupron & Hot Flashes (because hot can be cool and you should ask your doctor about Lupron, if only to educate yourself) Crystal Dreams (& crystals in general) Body Scans (scan your body with your mind) Abraham Hicks (youtube vids galore!)
Jun 17, 201801:53:31
Dungeon Master w/ Kyle Bottom

Dungeon Master w/ Kyle Bottom

Given Tanya’s & Caleigh’s ever-growing obsession with Magic, Story, and Comedy, it’s no surprise this episode’s guest is a fellow Canadian comedian whose newest comedy album is entitled “Dungeon Master.”  These witches snagged a quick interview with Vancouver’s own Kyle Bottom before he hopped on a plane back out of Toronto.  From being raised byTV & video games to performing live in a state of complete sensory deprivation, Kyle shared some of his life stories and tons of his laughs. Listen to him again on his live-streamed show, May 15th, at Kyle Bottom @kylebottom (insta, facebook) @kylesbottom (twitter) 1 Cool Things: Sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeep Waaaaaaaaaaaaalks
May 14, 201858:12
PLAY FUCKING LOUD w/ Lewis Baumander
Apr 21, 201801:32:13
Ep 11: Celebrity Cultures w/ Samita Nandy

Ep 11: Celebrity Cultures w/ Samita Nandy

In this episode, we learn (via sniffles) that T-Bitty is sick and that if Cales were to study a celebrity, she would place her in a test-tube and probably forget to feed her like the aloe plant sitting shrivelled on her window sill. Thankfully, Tanya and Caleigh got to sit down with Samita Nandy, who runs the Centre for Media and Celebrity studies, to chat about the study of celebrity cultures and how celebrities themselves can be understood as texts and systems of signs that carry meaning, shaped not only by their own actions but by the contributing contexts that media and audiences build around them. We stretch back to the Greek era to look at Fame’s origin story and unravel the semiotics between Canadian celebrity culture and Hollywood’s Wild West frontier. If you’ve ever wanted to pull apart the nuts and bolts of the “Dream Machine” that turns humans into immortals, this is the episode for you. P.S. we recorded our intro & outro in Tanya’s haunted apartment, so whoever guesses the exact point at which her ghost decided to chime in wins a prize. P.P.S. You're all invited to Caleigh & Garrett's wedding. P.P.P.S. Zac Efron? Really? ______________________________________________ Samita Nandy The Centre for Media and Celebrity Studies www.cmc/ The first article that popped up when we googled “Matt Damon allegations”: Cool Things: Cales: NPR’s Ted Radio Hour: “Manipulation” (Fri, Oct 13, 2017) Tanya's: Manifesting Change by Mike Dooley
Mar 30, 201801:16:16
Ep 10: Laughing at Death w/ Aphiraa
Mar 03, 201801:00:42
Ep 9: Tempo, Gender, and Writing Assholes w/ Angela Cavallin
Feb 18, 201853:33
Ep 8: S.M.A.R.T. Art w/ Michelle Leduc Catlin

Ep 8: S.M.A.R.T. Art w/ Michelle Leduc Catlin

There’s no better interview to kick the new year off than our conversation with Michelle Leduc Catlin, an artist who has reinvented her artistic style and skill set throughout her many becomings - as a broadcaster, a host, an actor, a filmmaker and an all-around beautiful human being.

She shares how she strives to maintain integrity within her own moral values while necessarily finding her artistic niche. She created her own path by creating her own work, which led her to a much deeper, more personal transfiguration, working through the ego to be comfortable with the idea of simply being.

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S.M.A.R.T. goals:

Specific: Goals should be simplistically written and clearly define what you are going to do.

Measurable: Goals should be measurable so that you have tangible evidence that you have accomplished the goal. Usually, the entire goal statement is a measure for the project, but there are usually several short-term or smaller measurements built into the goal.

Achievable: Goals should be achievable; they should stretch you slightly so you feel challenged, but defined well enough so that you can achieve them. You must possess the appropriate knowledge, skills, and abilities needed to achieve the goal.

Results-focused: Goals should measure outcomes, not activities.

Time-bound: Goals should be linked to a timeframe that creates a practical sense of urgency, or results in tension between the current reality and the vision of the goal. Without such tension, the goal is unlikely to produce a relevant outcome.

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