
Exchange Me
By Denys Andrushchenko

Exchange MeJul 16, 2023

16: Jeff Gospe (CA)🇺🇸 and his exchanges in France🇫🇷, West Germany🇩🇪, and communist Poland 🇵🇱
- How was it to be an exchange student before and after the fall of the Berlin Wall?
- How was it to come to Moscow during the transition of the USSR to a market economy?
- How was it to meet Gorbachov in person at Stanford and witness the dissolution of the Soviet Union?
Denys, the co-host of this show, spoke with Jeff Gospe* about these and many other stories to feed your curiosity and listen to four decades of exchanges and wisdom. There was so much information that the ExchangeMe team decided to split it into two episodes, the second fitting into a Global Response series.
What's inside this episode:
1:00 – meet Jeff!
5:30 – why taking tourism tours in 2-3 different languages;
09:30 – on national stereotypes before going to another country;
12:00 – the US/USSR: on political systems comparison;
17:45 – Hoover Institute, meeting Gorbachov in Stanford and being interviewed by Ernst & Young (EY); going to Moscow eventually;
36:20 – youth exchange is even better education than Stanford because...
*Jeff holds a Bachelor of Arts degree in Political Science from Stanford University. Since November 2005, he has been working as a financial advisor at Morgan Stanley. He is also an active member of the Rotary Club of Santa Rosa, California, and a person with vast experience in exchange programs, including the Rotary Youth Exchange (RYE).
Denys Andrushchenko is a FLEX 🇺🇸 alumnus, Future Leaders Connect 🇬🇧 member, EaP 🇪🇺 Civic Digital Fellow, past-president of the Rotary Club Cherkasy-Centre 🕊, and co-founder of the SUN Leaders Program 🇺🇦.
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GR 4: Leo Shin from New Zealand 🇳🇿 on supporting Ukraine and breaking away from colonialism
In another episode of the Global Response (GR) series, we travel to Auckland, New Zealand, to talk with Leo, a South Korean by descent and with Ukraine in his heart.
He was in Ukraine one time but for 3 months while on AIESEC program. Since then, he well in love with Ukrainian culture and made lots of friends. And as we know well, friends are known in trouble.
What's inside:
- Fertile soil!
- Orange Revolution, sparking the first interest
- Euromaidan creating more sympathy
- Resisting the Russian full-scale invasion as the final step in escaping Russian imperialism
- on AIESEC voice (its absence) during the war
- on (winter) experience in Ukraine (between -15 and -30 Celsius)
- not (only) Ukrainian issue
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GR 3: A voice from Pakistan🇵🇰 with Saadia
Hi, Listener. This is Denys from Ukraine, your co-host of the Exchange Me Podcast.
My guest for the third episode of the Global Response series has a background in literature and visual culture and is based in Pakistan🇵🇰, where she's working as freelance development writer and researcher for local and international grassroots organizations.
Saadia's previous work has put her at the intersection of teaching, creative practice and interaction–where she has witnessed the benefits of a people-first and co-creative approach towards community engagement and education.
Saadia believes that respect, communication and an understanding that every person has the capacity to create change will lead us to a better and kinder world and is working towards a career in education that engenders this.
What's inside:
00:01 – Meet Saadia! And why this episode;
06:40 – “I want big cars and easy money!” – meeting a 12-year-old boy in a village and why he wanted to become a politician;
08:55 – Pakistani perspective on the war in Ukraine;
12:00 – on 3 Pakistans;
23:30 – powerless/powerful?
29:30 – “Why are you still here? Get out of Pakistan!”;
35:00 – on responsibility to stay.
Recorded on 08.01.2023 (it was also a death anniversary of her grandfather – a figure she admires a lot).
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15: After Studying in the West, She Brought English to the East w/ FLEX’14 (IL) 🇺🇸 Anna Devyatko 🇺🇦
We recorded this episode over a year ago! The full-scale invasion in Ukraine switched our priorities.
But more than ever, English is vital to millions of Ukrainians who were forced to flee abroad, including many children and teenagers.
In #XME15, you will learn from Anna how she encountered #FLEXprogram, became a FLEX alumna, and got inspired to plant a seed of learning into other minds. Our guest also shares a difference she noticed between Ukraine in 2013 when she left for the US and in 2014 after her return.
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Co-host Tetyana Kondrya🇺🇦 recorded this conversation.
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XME 14: 2 alumnae, 1 family with FLEX'12 Anastasia Prokhorenko🇺🇦🇺🇸 and Co-host, FLEX'10 Tetyana Kondrya🇺🇦🇬🇧
Merry Christmas, the world!
Wow, we recorded this episode a year ago... But it is still war in Ukraine. Please see the ways to help Ukraine today:
https://supportukrainenow.org/
Especially, we encourage you to donate to the SUN Leaders Program which provides scholarship to young leaders of Ukraine who address specific social issues helping this fearless country to win in the mid- to long-term.
What's inside this episode:
- one family, different arrival stories; one context, different perception;
- good relationships with family vs. good relationships with friends theory;
- when Tetyana went to the US, her host family's daughter was only 10; instead, Anastasia had to deal with a teenager as her sibling during the exchange year;
- Anastasia: a hilarious story of cooking mushrooms for her host family;
- Tetyana: on meeting Arnold Schwarzenegger.
After FLEX, Anastasia Prokhorenko🇺🇦 took place in the Ukraine Got Talent show (https://youtu.be/ESZtHR3JVtE). She also had to deal with her real mom's expectations. Currently, she lives in the US🇺🇸 covering her life on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClP647HvI5vezA_IsvmbTYA
After her year abroad, Tetyana Kondrya🇺🇦 found FLEX across all her life activities; it helped her to:
- obtain the first job;
- get an apartment in Kyiv via a trusted contact;
- become a teacher assistant;
- join an IT company (now for 8 years!);
- and eventually move to the UK🇬🇧.
Your other co-host Denys Andrushchenko🇺🇦 is also a FLEX program alumnus of 2012, member of a Rotary Club Cherkasy-Centre, and a founder of the Leaders Fund. He stayed in Cherkasy, Ukraine, throughout the war.
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GR 2: Global Response with Tom🇦🇺 and Simone🇮🇹
Tom Giuretis 🇦🇺 is a self-made data journalist from Melbourne, Australia, who has been reporting on the war since 2014. He's in favor of heavy arms for Ukraine. Simone Pote 🇮🇹 is a youth worker from Turin, Italy, who's taking a more neutral position and has lots of friends who were in favor of peaceful negotiations since the beginning of the war. In this conversation, my friends and I are finding common ground and discovering unconventional viewpoints.
Global Response (GR) series is a spin-off of ExchangeMe Podcast that provides a local context on the war in Ukraine🇺🇦 started by the Russian Federation🇷🇺.
This episode was recorded on August 25th, 2022, marking 6 months and 1 day of the invasion.
What's inside:
- intro & reflections on the war: the first days;
- an argument to arm Ukraine as the only way to end the war with least casualties;
- some of the observations.
It was your host, Denys Andrushchenko: a FLEX program alumnus of 2012, member of a Rotary Club Cherkasy-Centre, and a founder of the Leaders Fund.
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12: Building a Metaverse before it was cool: w/ Fulbright’13 (FL🇺🇸) Andres Vargas🇪🇨
Andres from Ecuador and I met online 8 years ago to do a startup together. We aimed to “share the chance” of participating in exchange programs and scholarships easier. He is a Fulbright scholar and resides in the US now.
We’ve recorded this episode half a year ago talking about Florida, Ecuador, applying to Fulbright, metaverse, simulations, equality, and more. I postponed it for obvious reason.
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Your host, Denys Andrushchenko: FLEX alumnus of 2012, member of a Rotary Club Cherkasy Centre, and founder of the Leaders Fund.
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GR 1: w/ Hasan and Ratul from Bangladesh 🇧🇩
"I would rather mark it as Invasion of Humanity by Russia in Ukraine."
In the first episode of the Global Response (GR) series, we talked with two Ukrainians (Yaroslava and Vira) and two Bangladeshis (Hasan and Ratul) to unpack the war in Ukraine in a global context. We especially thank the latter for contributing a more holistic view on this tragedy in the midst of Europe in 2022.
Both Hasan and Ratul represent GenLab, an organization that aims to create a platform for Bangladeshi youth to engage in social development process of the country by means of acting together to bring about positive change.
Established in 2015, GenLab has a clear vision for an inclusive and resilient world through a sustainable approach. Their mission is to empower people, particularly the youth, towards developing a peaceful, just and a sustainable world where actions are driven by innovation, integrity, and coexistence.
Guests:
Chowdhury Hasan Ibne Obayed🇧🇩, a software engineer specialized in FinTech. He works as a software developer in the Central Bank of Bangladesh. Hasan is Study of US Institute 🇺🇸 (SUSI’12) fellow.
Ratul Dev🇧🇩has founded GenLab. He is a development professional by choice and is focused on impact projects in his community. Ratul is the fellow of the following programs:
- JENESYS 🇯🇵(Japan-East Asia Network of Exchange for Students and Youths);
- Professional Fellowship🇺🇸;
- Global Exchange on Religion in Society (GERIS)🇪🇺;
- the Swedish Institute Leader Lab🇸🇪;
- an awardee of the Global SDG Talent by UNLEASH🇩🇰,
- among others.
We also introduced our GR host Vira Konstantynova who is currently conducting her PhD thesis at the National Institute for Strategic Studies. Vira is from Mariupol🇺🇦 and has almost ten years of professional experience working at private and governmental institutions. She’s also the FLC’21 🇬🇧 fellow.
Joined by Yaroslava Fatiukha from Zaporizhzhya 🇺🇦 who is a FLEX’20🇺🇸 alumna and a President at Rotaract (RAC)🕊 club Zaporizhzhya (2022).
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Presenting Global Response series
Global Response is a limited series under the ExchangeMe podcast umbrella to understand the perception of Ukraine in the world.
See the original show: https://exchangemepodcast.com.
SummaryInternational politics is always a factor in how things are perceived. Our team wants to know how the world sees Ukraine. What was reported in the news before the war and during it? It is an opportunity to share the truth about our country and history with representatives from other parts of the world.
Who are we looking for:
- Active citizens, members of local communities;
- Who consider themselves a knowledgeable audience;
- And are eager to share their perspective in a critical, respective manner;
- Ideally open-minded: have been abroad and exposed to other cultures.
Will this series focus solely on Ukraine? We envision it as a platform for discussion of any global conflict but hope that the atrocities conducted in Ukraine won’t repeat anywhere else.
Are you looking for experts? Not exactly, but we are open to knowledgeable audiences who have experience and want to voice their critical opinion.
Are you associated with the government? No. Although, we apply for grants from various countries as the Exchange Me team under the condition of producing original, uncensored content. We are also open to sponsorships that do not contradict our values of freedom, non-violence, and harmonic human development.

13: Indie singer Promsonya w/ FLEX’19 (NV🇺🇸) Sofiya Pylypenko 🇺🇦
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Having started volunteering at the age 13, Sofia (Sonya) was among creators of the Druzi ("Friends") youth space in Kostyantynivka (Donetsk oblast) supported by USAID (listen to XME 10).
After returning from FLEX program, she doubled down on her passion to music and started an indie project with her father: https://slukh.media/new-music/promsonya-new-name/
Timecodes:
00:01 Intro
01:13 Living in Las Vegas
07:00 An introvert challenge: open up!
11:41 What did you miss?
16:30 Music passion
18:30 Friends, festivals, and front line
27:00 Outro
There was also a cameo from Katia Kulyk (XME episodes 6 and 7).
Track used in the show: Promsonya - 2012
Listen to the artist and help grow her fan base!
Learn more about professional Ukrainians in English: http://kyivfuture.com
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It was your host, Denys Andrushchenko: a FLEX alumnus of 2012, member of a Rotary Club Cherkasy Centre, and founder of the Leaders Fund.

11: Destiny Has Something in Store for You w/ FLEX’19 (CA🇺🇸) Valeriia Rudnichenko 🇺🇦 🇵🇱
How do you react when one of the host family relatives dies on the day of your arrival? How to overcome bullying and turn your deepest fears into career opportunities? This and other contradictory topics we covered in our new episode of Exchange Me show with co-host Tetyana Kondrya.
Valeriia Rudnichenko is originally from Zhytomyr, Ukraine. She is now studying in Poland to become a nutritionist. She was one of the lucky ones who got to live in California during her exchange year, but her most important journey was not geographical – but to self-love, confidence, and self-esteem.
00:01 Preview
00:23 – Intro
01:53 – Pre-FLEX state of mind
03:32 – on shared FLEX quality and dream come true
06:55 – Tanya’s “finding out” video
10:38 – on the unknown of the temporary placement
12:40 – Visalia, CA
15:25 – on the adventure flight
20:10 – on dealing with death in the host family
24:14 – “Nothing is more permanent than a temporary solution family”
27:32 – on school experience
29:08 – demanding sports in USA
31:40 – culture shock of school dances
36:53 – volunteering and UNICEF
38:04 – the nicest memory
39:27 – Self-esteem, self-love and lessons learnt
41:22 – on the weight journey
43:23 – the hardest year moving to Poland
46:50 – advice to yourself
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A Holiday Mix by FLEX’98 (NY🇺🇸) Dj Safin 🇺🇦
Electronic music (remixes) of popular songs in the US that our community of alumni shared with us.
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10: Serendipity and Cross-pollination w/ FLEX’10 (OH🇺🇸) Roman Vydro🇺🇦
Roman is a co-founder of GarageHub. He is a brilliant engineer and project organizer, he led CACTUS camps in Ukraine and created a platform (an actual physical space) for people to build stuff. Denys talked with him about this, as well as his year in the US, an older sister who was an exchange student before him, and on monetizing culture. Listen now!
00:01 Preview
01:30 Having an older sister – also a FLEX alumna – as a role model. Identically great host families
08:57 Roman’s (and Lena’s) background; 4 trips to the US
12:13 One of the youngest FLEX participants
14:40 Advice to an introvert?
17:05 Integrating into a host community within an urbanized area next to Cleveland
22:10 Learning community service and serendipity
30:36 European Youth Parliament (EYP), Peace Corps in Ukraine, and “a hell of a difficult year of 2014”
34:22 Starting in a garage and turning it into Garage Hub
38:21 Garage Hub 2.0 – in search of sense (with USAID: UCBI)
42:38 Garage Hub 3.0 – in search of form and surviving the end of the world
46:20 Closing tips for participants of exchange students
48:15 - outro
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This episode is supported by the Public Affairs Section of the U.S. Embassy to Ukraine. The views of the authors and guests do not necessarily reflect the official position of the U.S. Government.

9: Embrace Changes w/ FLEX’03 (WA🇺🇸) Olga Shyshman 🇺🇦
Meet our co-host Tetyana Kondrya, FLEX'10!
Our new episode is with FLEX alumna of 2003 Olga Shyshman (Lebedyna). She had to change 4 families with the patience and understanding of a Tibetan monk and continues to spread positivity wherever life takes her.
Currently, she works as a Partner Account Manager at Dell Technologies after previously spending 8 years at SAP. Listen to our conversation as we unpack her FLEX experience.
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Timecodes:
00:01 Preview
01:07 – Why and how did Olga take part in the program?
12:03 – The sibling swap! Why Olga repeated her high school year in Ukraine
07:21 – Flying to the States. The grand story of changing host families
14:33 – High School experience
16:38 – Competing for a place on a volleyball team and trying fun running (cross country)
20:11 – On making friends and Tanya’s theory
22:39 – Sweet memories… and grand challenges, once again
26:39 – Taking in Donetsk refugees purple
28:39 – From a receptionist at Oracle to an assistant to the Country Manager of SAP – on a career (influenced by FLEX).
33:28 - Gender equality rose
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8: A Poetess Living in Germany w/ FLEX’09 (KS🇺🇸) Nadia Telenchuk 🇺🇦 🇩🇪
From the Ukrainian city of Kherson to the US state of Kansas: the story of Nadia who “got hungry for impressions.” Curious fact: six years before she applied for FLEX, her father participated in the agricultural program in the same state.
Currently, Nadia lives in Germany after “literally falling in love with this country.”
00:01 intro
00:56 a brave trip to Kansas City and embarrassing moments at high school
05:12 how Nadia first heard about FLEX program and how her teacher convinced her to participate, the smart way
07:56 the interview: 3rd round of FLEX
09:50 FLEX is about flexibility
10:31 the Finalist Call moment
11:54 expectations about the US and how Nadia’s father went on exchange for agriculture specialists for 6 years prior
13:53 fighting for her dream (the boarding ticket, in fact)
17:11 the high school
20:20 literary hobby/passion
24:08 there is more to world
25:55 falling in love with Germany 🇩🇪
28:32 an unlimited residence permit
32:41 host family and going to a church… for food :)
35:35 babysitting in States and volunteering in Kherson
40:18 tips to FLEX finalist
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7: We Are Laowai w/ FLEX’05 (WV🇺🇸) Katia Kulyk 🇺🇦🇨🇳 🇹🇭
She has lived in Thailand for 2,5 years and studied meditation with buddhist monks. She has lived in China for 5 years and wrote 2 books about foreigners and their perception in other countries and cultures. Meet the second part of our conversation with Katia (https://katiakulyk.com/)
00:01 Preview
00:45 Intro
01:52 Small talk culture
03:31 Foreign experience which started with Russia and a 36-hour train
05:54 Discussing the TransSiberian train (Serbia to China)
08:02 The toughest and most rewarding things I’ve learned: Meditation and Spirituality.
12:56 Retreats abroad and in the Carpathians, Khata Maysternya
15:48 The World Peace Initiative
16:38 Different stages in life make different transformation during exchange programs
17:39 “Every time it’s a bit transformative”
18:15 “China is the most different country in the world”
21:55 Beijing, Shanghai, and Qunmin – places where Katia stayed in China
24:47 Laowai the Book: funny stories from China and unusual cuisine
27:54 “We are creating out future right now.” A story about a girl from Palestine🇵🇸
32:26 A small NLP technique to shape your identity
35:59 The final advice from Katia
39:18 Outro
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6: Peace of Mind w/ FLEX’05 (WV🇺🇸) Katia Kulyk 🇺🇦
After traveling to 35 countries, teaching mindfulness in 14 of them, Katia moved to a small village of Zavallia in Ukraine to organize her yoga and meditation retreats: https://katiakulyk.com/
00:01 Preview
00:15 Intro
06:16 Studying English with American Peace Corps Volunteers
10:54 Religion in the US and community service at church
15:05 Gamification in reading books and writing own books
19:59 On meditation, organizing your thoughts, and emotional breakthrough after an unexpected death of the partner
24:36 The benefits of FLEX
27:35 The Finalist call
31:19 On AP (advanced placement) classes
36:37 Homesickness and on easiness to disconnect with home country in 2005 vs. today
38:56 Outro
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5: Exchanges to Internships w/ FLEX’12 (MI🇺🇸) Yevheniya Vodopyanova 🇺🇦
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00:01 Intro
00:43 Yevhenia’s trip to Michigan via Frankfurt, Washington DC, and Chicago.
05:23 Cultural shock
08:37 Host family
11:00 How surroundings shape us. How challenges unleash the hidden potential.
17:13 An American dream of becoming a cheerleader and a high school
19:53 Travelling with a sport team in a yellow bus
21:06 On skipping the 10th grade of the UA school and how Denys, the host, graduated at 19(!). Tips from Yevhenia.
22:22 “Not better, not worse, just different.”
22:41 How did you know about the Program?
24:19 Notice to parents
25:59 Reaction to the Finalist call
28:48 on gaining weight in the US
32:06 Most memorable moments in the US, including the community service.
35:36 Exchanges to Internships Program
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4: How FLEX inspired me for tech w/ FLEX’12 (CO🇺🇸) Victoria Umanska🇺🇦🇵🇱
What’s inside:
- Studying at a charter School in Colorado, USA.
- Learning to play a violin and embracing failures.
- Trying herself in the court club (mock trial).
- Joining community service at a local fire department, which brought her “down to earth”.
- How FLEX gives an opportunity to see a situation from different points of view and makes you FLEXible.
- Going to Barcelona on Erasmus program.
- Working in a tech industry as a woman, and startup attempts.
Reach out to Victoria: victoria@smok.vc
This episode is supported by the Public Affairs Section of the U.S. Embassy to Ukraine. The views of the authors and guests do not necessarily reflect the official position of the U.S. Government.
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3: FLEX your identity w/ FLEX’08 (MO🇺🇸)Roman Koshovskyy 🇺🇦
“Wealth = income - ego.”
Roman is a business analyst at SoftServe, author of youtube-series and a podcast named “GOALS on FIRE” about financial literacy, investments and meaningful life.
He is a Personal Finance Planner at iplan.ua – a consulting service that helps Ukrainians around the world to plan their life goals with smart financial and investment decisions and milestones. Roman also has a blog in Ukrainian called “Creativity. Development. Search”, where he shares the ideas on habits, psychology, good books, finances and a healthy & balanced lifestyle.
We talked about the following:
00:01 Intro
00:39 Roman’s background
01:42 Learning the importance of English from a Counter Strike game
06:32 His Finalist call moment
11:11 Missouri – “a normal state with somewhat interesting history”
18:20 Cheerleaders are indeed the most popular kids
19:42 Why do American families volunteer to host exchange students?
23:00 How extracurricular activities help students to socialize, find support, and shape their identity
29:01 Social media back in 2007
31:12 Charity and a lift-a-thon
36:19 Orlando, Florida, and navigating the future profession
40:37 Work and Travel and other insights
44:18 On financially freedom and literacy
54:35 Outro
Books mentioned by the guest:
- Atomic Habits by James Clear
- The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg
- Leonardo da Vinci by Walter Isaacson
- Unshakeable: Your Guide to Financial Freedom by Tony Robbins
- StrengthsFinder 2.0 by Tom Rath
- The Mask of Masculinity by Lewis Howes
For Ukrainian listeners – read “Lifestyle inflation” article and examine your life and spending habits.
Some other quotes that Roman cited:
- “If you let your learning lead to knowledge, you become a fool. If you let your learning lead to action, you become wealthy,” — Jim Rohn;
- Rich equals to current income while wealth is unspent or hidden income;
- “Wealth creation is not an end… It's a crucial aspect of achieving a person's purposeful life.” So wealth can help you provide meaning by helping others and building your own good life. More in this summary;
- “Prosperity is a combination of health, wealth, happiness, and love.”
- “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity”
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2: The Art of Soft Power w/ FLEX'14 (CA🇺🇸) Yulia Popyk 🇺🇦
00:01 Intro
02:17 Three exchange programs
04:44 Learning about FLEX — traveling across the border
06:53 On Leadership skills
09:44 Going to California
13:35 Host family issues
17:58 High school and breaking rules
21:29 Improving your accent
23:26 Tips for prospective finalists
30:39 Soft power
37:16 How to take advantage
43:44 Outro
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XME 1. Immigrant by Accident w/ FLEX 2001 (CO🇺🇸) Vitaliy Deputat 🇺🇦🇨🇦
00:01 Intro
00:45 Vitaliy’s background
01:58 What is FLEX Program?
02:51 How did you get on the Program?
08:08 Reaction to the Finalist call
10:37 On American education
17:12 Alumni opportunities
19:00 Orange revolution in the eyes of FLEX alumnus
21:49 Migration to Canada
25:00 Life in Canada: finding a job
27:02 FLEX as fraternity
28:00 the best moment from the exchange year, and challenges
31:05 Some tips to future FLEXers: the Fundamental Principles
Vitaliy's Telegram Group on life in Canada: https://t.me/cherkasy_ottawa
Read about the project on https://exchangemepodcast.com
Learn about Future Leaders Exchange (FLEX) Program in your country: http://discoverflex.org
This episode is supported by the Public Affairs Section of the U.S. Embassy to Ukraine. The views of the authors and guests do not necessarily reflect the official position of the U.S. Government.